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[vypper]

I think postponing this event is a good thing, but i can't help to marvel how hypocritical this move is, seeing that events with more horrific results around the world ( like palestine ,the massacre of myanmar, riots in hong kong, riots in algeria , civil war in libya, riots in Iran etc...) didn't get this much attention from sony.

 

[and 3 others]

I think postponing this event is a good thing, but i can't help to marvel how hypocritical this move is, seeing that events with more horrific results around the world ( like palestine ,the massacre of myanmar, riots in hong kong, riots in algeria , civil war in libya, riots in Iran etc...) didn't get this much attention from sony.

I wonder why!?

 

[OneShotThrill]

I see alot of bans coming.....

 

[JordanN]

This is the only correct take here, everyone else is overthinking it. It's not about this being a good or bad gesture from Sony, it's about making sure the marketing reaches as many people as possible.

If that was true, why wasn't E3 cancelled the same weak the Pulse Night club shooting happened?

What happened was everyone paid their respects in the beginning, but kept the show going.

 

[MoreJRPG]

I think so, people have been banned for saying shit like "fuck china" in those covid 19 threads. Not going to entertain the shit cuz that's what most people do here, bait just to report.

I think you're mixing up forums. No one's been outright banned for saying that. More goes into it than that.

 

[martino]

No digging required, the more silly the post or person the more about them I remember.
The delay itself is understandable and I'm not even upset about that, it is because they favoring one continent so much.
I mean shit look at France, they have riots more frequently than the US, but we don't see conferences cancelled.

in France,99% of them are only protest and images kept are highly selected (and provoked)

 

[Lionel Richie]

If that was true, why wasn't E3 cancelled the same weak the Pulse Night club shooting happened?

What happened was everyone paid their respects in the beginning, but kept the show going.

This feels considerably bigger than that. Plus you have the covid situation and there's a risk the stream could get buried in the news.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

is being anti-American an offence?

Calling Americans inbreds who should be walled off from the rest of the world seems a little dodgy for a gaming forum

 

[rofif]

I see alot of bans coming.....

Why though?
It's not resetera. We are allowed to say this stuff. Most do not mean wrong. But if someone prefers to see new console news over hearing about some random death on the other side of the world.... then why blame them? It's not something to ban for. Not everyone feels the atmosphere of the riot.
People have local problems of their own. Not caring for what's happening in other country, is not a reason for ban.

 

[Clear]

Unfortunate but predictable really. Oh well.

 

[cormack12]

Sony deciding to put slow walking sections in their real life reveals.

 

[Chankoras]

You don't think the two aren't connected?

Consider the USA has intervened in foreign countries because the media said Iraq had WMDs or that Gaddafi had to go?

If the media started talking about the Mexican Cartel killing U.S citizens 24/7, we would no doubt hear the end of it soon.

what if things were different...But we don't live in that world, business have to be pragmatic in how they act in the right now.

 

[CurtBizzy]

I'd definitely wear blackface to the store if they did that.

This is funny LOL

 

[Neff]

next gen is cancelled everyone buy a switch lite

Switch was the start of this gen anyway

 

[Zerotex]

I dont know, maybe they lost the opportunit to use the beginning of the event to spread a message, cause there will be a lot of people (most young) watching from the whole world and some dont even know whats going on in the US.

 

[JordanN]

This feels considerably bigger than that. Plus you have the covid situation and there's a risk the stream could get buried in the news.

That still makes no sense.

Why plan the event at all then? Covid was never going away this year or even the next...

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

I'm not anti-American, just anti-stupid

Apparently you cannot criticize his America with liberty and justice "for all"

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

W
I see alot of bans coming.....

Wrong forum brah.

 

[New Yorks Finest]

Another month or 2 now for this planned reveal before we get to see it..sigh, TLOU2 and GOT almost here..I'm straight

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Me right now.

Something like this is what we needed.

 

[Shin]

in France,99% of them are only protest and images kept are highly selected (and provoked)

France riots and no this isn't what I used for my argument, but yours is not reflective of events that occured.

 

[engstra]

Why do these companies seem only to *support* a cause when it's a big "media event"? It couldn't be because they'll get attention and make themselves look better, could it?!

Come on. You're smarter than that. This is all PR bullshit plain and simple. The rioting is in the news 24/7 and Sony will be but a spec of dust in the mass media wind with their PS5 reveal if they were to hold it
this Thursday.

It's best they *DON'T* play politics or engage in social commentary. They're in the entertainment business. To ENTERTAIN US. Not to preach, not to change minds, not to push agendas or take sides.

If anything, we could *USE* the break from the constant barrage of bad news to cheer folks up and remind us that at the end of the day, the world moves on and can HEAL.

Of course it's for the most part a PR ploy, but it's still supporting something good. So why not see the positive of it? It can bring about positive change (not just go back to business as usual) and take steps to allow the world to heal.

Also, don't believe Sony saying that racism is bad is taking a strong political stance

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Wrong forum brah.

This forum still has rules, brah

 

[Dargor]

I cant give these moves by these bigs ass faceless entities any credit. Its just cheap and hypocritical. So many things, much worse than what we have right now happened and they didnt make a peep, but since this one gives brownie points with the thought police, here we are.

 

[Lionel Richie]

That still makes no sense.

Why plan the event at all then? Covid was never going away this year or even the next...

I'm not even saying they're correct, but this is why they did it. It's not because Sony cares about black people, it's not because they're worried about the political climate, it's straight up about marketing and reaching as many people as possible. Never bet on a corporation being motivated by anything other than self preservation and/or shady homeland security deals to watch people masturbate.

 

[JordanN]

what if things were different...But we don't live in that world, business have to be pragmatic in how they act in the right now.

I gave you my honest answer.

But you know what? I'll let Sony do whatever.

 

[Shin]

I know, that's why I recognise your name as well.

Oh do tell me about myself, I'm dying to hear this one.
Strange assumption you got going there, nothing changed merely elaborated so you wouldn't have a hard time understanding.

 

[martino]

France riots and no this isn't what I used for my argument, but yours is not reflective of events that occured.

i was there

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

You don't care, but responds with such a lengthy post?
There isn't any "some of you" there is me and having a good memory, more so when it comes to stupid people.

Since you're a fan as well I'm pretty sure you watched their E3 presser when the homo sexuals were killed.
They briefly touched up on that and the show went on, yet now the show isn't so black lives are more important than those of homo sexuals.
That is not a narrative anyone created but Sony themselves when they decided to cancel, next thing you know dog A is worth more than human B (they might be right in some cases).
Before bringing up racial, attack and minority perhaps you want to look up the statistics who does what, who fills the jails the most, who kills the other color the most, who rapes the other color the most, which color steals the most, etc etc.

I'm not even from the US but even I know that much...

Yikes. I actually looked forward to your posts too on gaming stuff, particularly with next-gen console gaming. Would've sent this as a private message but can't. That old saying "never meet your idols", well I guess another take on that would be "don't have people talk politics in a gaming thread to a point they show their ass".

Ah well. Sad but it is what it is.

 

[OneShotThrill]

The problem of profiling based on how you look happens in every country,

If your wearing a 3 peice suit, waste coat and leather shoes with a brolly and immaculate walking in Mayfair, does not matter your race or colour, police will say good day to your sir.

If your wearing a hoody and ona street corner in Brixton at night, you might get stop and searched for drugs. The hoody guy could be a young doctor, and the 3 piece suit guy a gangster villian.

How do you tackle some peoples perception of others on how they look. Its probably worse in USA with the gun culture, act or shoot first, question later.

Except here in America...no matter what you're wearing ..you're still a darkie. I've literally seen the police called on a black cop IN uniform. Alot of the posters here from outta the States just don't get it. Hell a good chunk of the white guys here don't get it.

 

[Jesb]

What’s sad about all this is these protests have been about the racism card. Black on white and a cop murdering an innocent black man. But I think it’s going to eventually come out that this wasn’t anything to do with racism.

These two knew eachother for a long time. It was two guys that had a personal vendetta against eachother. I don’t believe this was about racism. But these riots started because the racism card is automatically brought to question because it was a cop against a black man and it was a black on white crime.

That’s the sad thing about these riots. I understand their cause, but this murder I don’t think was about racism. Just two guys in it for eachother. I don’t want to go OT here but I just think that this was totally unnecessary.

A life was lost and it’s tragic, but people are losing lives every single day because of covid. People are murdered every day. But because of this being seen as racism which spiked riots we all are all up in arms on this one. I’m in no way trying to downplay all the bad things happening, but at a time when things are so bad in the world.

Don’t we need to try and look at some good. All we are dealing with is horrible news. Why not keep the event going. Why not try and live our lives again. We can honour the man and the lives lost at this riot. Continuing on with our lives and events is not a disrespect to these victims. Let us just try and move ahead from these horrible time’s. This wasn’t the way.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Calling Americans inbreds who should be walled off from the rest of the world seems a little dodgy for a gaming forum

All you need to do is get a little smarter

That's all really

 

[marianus]

Terrible. The riots do not affect me or the majority of people. There is always bad stuff happening everywhere.

 

[iHaunter]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh god fing dammit.

 

[Shin]

i was there

So you were at all the riots in the recent years and every coverage by the media (photo or videos) are a lie?
I see...we are getting off-track here by the way.

 

[Psykodad]

Oh do tell me about myself, I'm dying to hear this one.
Strange assumption you got going there, nothing changed merely elaborated so you wouldn't have a hard time understanding.

You're doing a good job on my behalf.

And your posts aren't hard to understand, I just don't bother to really read them.

 

[geordiemp]

Except here in America...no matter what you're wearing ..you're still a darkie. I've literally seen the police called on a black cop IN uniform. Alot of the posters here from outta the States just don't get it. Hell a good chunk of the white guys here don't get it.

Fair enough I am from UK, we are stuck up on perceived class / social standing as well.

 

[Geki-D]

If that was true, why wasn't E3 cancelled the same weak the Pulse Night club shooting happened?

...Because the Orlando nightclub shooting wasn't an ongoing event as E3 was playing out? Because E3 was a live event over multiple days that already had people from all around the world moving to get there so it was impossible to stop, rather than being just a streamed video online that can be shown at any time?

People really need to stop with this false equivalence shit & appeals to hypocrisy. They aren't good arguments and you just look fucking stupid making them because you guys don't give a fuck either about all of these other world events.

The reveal will happen in a week, if even that. Stop acting like spoiled brats in the meantime and get a hobby and/or go to work. If your sole pleasure in life is the next big console reveal, I feel sorry for you.

 

[Inviusx]

Can we all stop for a moment and share a thought for dear Geoff Keighley's Summer Games Fest. The real victim of all of this......

 

[Coily]

Say “Event is postpone because of the current situation”. But acting like you care about this means that you were blind to everything that happened before.

lets not be naive, we all now that part of business is perception and image to not hurt the brand

 

[Boss Mog]

Where are the mods at? I mean this thread really has people showing their asses. We have racist fanboys, anti American fanboys, and im sure i missed more.

Cause if we don't support riots and looting that are basically for nothing, since the cop was arrested and will be punished and justice will be served, we are racists right? If we don't like seeing innocent people stoned and beat with 2x4s that did nothing but try to protect their stores then that's also racist huh. You disgust me.

 

[engstra]

I think so, people have been banned for saying shit like "fuck china" in those covid 19 threads. Not going to entertain the shit cuz that's what most people do here, bait just to report.

Fair enough that there's been some pretty immature and lowest hanging fruit comments about America in this thread but they're not offensive really?

 

[Jigsaah]

I'd definitely wear blackface to the store if they did that.

This is funny LOL

It really isn't funny. First of all, free PS5s aren't going to be a drop in the bucket for what black people require to reach some semblance of equivalency in America.

Patronizing twitter posts like this piss me the fuck off...and talking about wearing black face, whether joking or not, just further exacerbates the notion of how insensitive people are to the real struggle black people are going through.

Apologize...immediately.

 

[Shin]

You're doing a good job on my behalf.

So tales from your ass, figures.

 

[Psykodad]

So tales from your ass, figures.

There's an edit.

 

[Shin]

There's an edit.

I stand by mine - still tales from your ass.

 

[martino]

So you were at all the riots in the recent years and every coverage by the media (photo or videos) are a lie?
I see...we are getting off-track here by the way.

Again they are not riots at least not until the police make them to be.
But you're right let's stop here.
Just know that when you are far from the info you probably don't get the full story.

 

[Psykodad]

I stand by mine - still tales from your ass.

Vice versa.

 

[DarthFeanor]

That makes no sense whatsoever.

This presentation is 100% online. There is no security reasons for not showing it.

Are they going to delay TLoU 2 because of its ultra violence and realistic depiction of pain and suffering?

 

[Lionel Richie]

Can we all stop for a moment and share a thought for dear Geoff Keighley's Summer Games Fest. The real victim of all of this......

Stay strong based Pope.