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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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SSfox

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So? I don't understand your issue. You seem upset about a great game getting a much requested remaster. Surely the remaster will accomplish much more than what standard BC can do to enhance older titles.

If you want to play Uncharted 1 in PS4, you couldn't, unless there is a remaster.

If you want to play BB in PS5, you can with BC, so again that's why i don't see why Sony should rerelease it with an upscale. (If it's a real remake like SOTC, that will be another story, for now we don't know much this, so)
 
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M-V2

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hemo memo

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I can't believe they might be putting a PS5 remastered version of a very popular PS4 game in a reveal of PS5 games and forcing people to buy it, even though they might already have the original version without the changes on PS4. Am I outraging right?

You don’t reveal a new hardware to show a remaster of an old game. Don’t compare PS4 because that is your only way to play those games.
 

coolmast3r

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So? I don't understand your issue. You seem upset about a great game getting a much requested remaster. Surely the remaster will accomplish much more than what standard BC can do to enhance older titles.
I'm pretty sure SSfox is concerned Bluepoint's known "remastering" talent is employed to work only on this rumored Bloodborne PS5 edition when there are games such as Demon's Souls that should be a much higher priority on an imaginary "remastering" list.
 
If you want to play Uncharted 1 in PS4, you couldn't, unless there is a remaster.

If you want to play BB in PS5, you can with BC, so again that's why why Sony should rerelease it with an upscale. (If it's a real remake like SOTC, that will be another story, for now we don't know much this, so)

Backwards compatibility means PS4 games running on PS5. Boost mode means potentially running that PS4 game without any frame drops or dynamic resolution drops.

Backwards compatibility doesn't mean free shit and unpaid work.

If you don't think the PS5 version is worth your money and your PS4 version is just fine, you won't got to jail for not buying it.
 
You don’t reveal a new hardware to show a remaster of an old game. Don’t compare PS4 because that is your only way to play those games.

A remaster isn't making an old game run on new hardware. That's backwards compatibility.

Remastering generally involves people doing new work, like new models, new lighting, new textures and general quality of life fixes. The expectation that this should be free is typical entitled gamer tantrum.
 

SSfox

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Backwards compatibility means PS4 games running on PS5. Boost mode means potentially running that PS4 game without any frame drops or dynamic resolution drops.

Backwards compatibility doesn't mean free shit and unpaid work.

If you don't think the PS5 version is worth your money and your PS4 version is just fine, you won't got to jail for not buying it.

"Don't like it don't buy it gnana"

This is too old.

Anyway i gave my thoughts on it, and that's that, no need to get pissed because you don't agree with someone else opinion, lmao.

I got DM from somebody who's pissed because i've my opinion, if you can't accept other opinions that aren't your opinions, then don't go argue with people and public forums aren't for you.

And that was the conclusion of this.
 
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Neo Blaster

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So? I don't understand your issue. You seem upset about a great game getting a much requested remaster. Surely the remaster will accomplish much more than what standard BC can do to enhance older titles.
People don't want a Bloodborne remaster, they want a 60fps patch. Personally, any remake/remaster of a game less than two generations away is nothing more than a cash grab.
 
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"Don't like it don't buy it gnana"

This is too old.

Anyway i gave my thoughts on it, and that's that, no need to get pissed because you don't agree with someone else opinion, lmao.

I got DM from somebody who's pissed because i've my opinion, if you can't accept other opinions that aren't your opinions, then don't go argue with people and public forums aren't for you.

And that was the conclusion of this.

I'm not sure I'm the one that's pissed here! I don't really care about anyone's opinion, either. I just can't understand the outrage.

If this PS5 remaster somehow blocked the PS4 version working on the PS5 I could understand the outrage and would be there with you.
If the PS5 remaster is no better than the PS4 version running on PS5, then I don't understand the problem.

I also don't see how not buying something that doesn't appeal to you is controversial or contentious. I don't see how saying "This is too old" discounts it?
If Bloodborne Remastered for PS5 doesn't appeal to you, nor give enough benefit over the PS4 version running on PS5, then there's genuinely no need to buy it. That's not something aggressive to say, it's just sensible?
 
I accidentally went on Twitter again and had to call this out.

Edit: I failed at images in school.
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Source of that is a guy on Beyond3D forum that I frequent and believe me the source doesn't know jack shit. The others, some professional in chip fabrication business, grilled him and his responses got worse and worse to the point no one believed him. But this is internet, once it is out, it travels no matter what and this twitter guy "hears" that made up info from a troll. It is unsubstantiated, the guy didn't even know AMD was using TSM Co. for their SoCs.

its possible. one of the reasons why anti-github truthers were so against these narrow and fast designs was due to worse yields.
Here we go. Oh boy. Bad yields aren't even Sony's problem, it is AMDs and all chips delivered to Sony must be up to Sony's spec, doing that frequency sustainably.

Also consoles always had worse end of the crop in terms of binning, Sony just up the game on that front and must have required higher binned chips for consoles for the first time. And the fact that Sony will receive their spec on AMD design as it is AMD side that promises yields that are up to spec, as all these must be all in the contract and if some bad yield happens it is either TSM or AMD that eat the cost, not Sony. This much is all talked on Beyond 3D forum for anyone who wants to check out. One guy is literally works there but in unrelated position, but still knows what's what.


I knew this video was coming but I still think his apology is disingenuous. Let me explain; the main thing is he is a YouTuber his work is making videos and making sure they are viewed many many times, so he is playing both fields,

first he is PC-master race truther telling the console fan boys 'the truth' that there is no beating the PCs, now his secondary income of not just reviewing (and also getting expensive presents all the time) but also selling hw is exposed to more marketing this way,

second when he produces a video that has enough views/clikcks etc. (exposed enough that Tim himself confronts him, adding a secondary wave of exposure) he is now 'realizing he is wrong and must apologize' so that he can also get the views/clicks of the other side of the equation - console fan boys (which isn't even part of his audience), this way he will get exposure to a new audience who now may follow, like, subscribe to him going forward.

1 and 2 mission done. But I'm not falling for it. Though it seems it is working on you guys, so good for him.
 
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Is there any information / theory available on high fidelity VR gaming on PS5?
I feel like this is underrated.

The current headset has a lot more scope in it. Something first-party like Astro Bot Rescue Mission looks fantastic on PS4 Pro. Resolution is clarity, but it's not "graphics". A lot of PS4 era PS VR titles look like PS3 titles because of the lack of power to do all the fancy lighting effects with the scene needing to be rendered twice at 60 FPS, rather than once at 30 FPS.

PS5's extra power should allow some really good looking PS VR games on the original headset, better looking than anything currently playable on a TV on PS4 Pro. Not in resolution/clarity, but in quality, lighting, geometry, effects etc.

I'm hoping Resident Evil 8 is a thing and has full PS VR support on PS5.
 
Source of that is a guy on Beyond3D forum that I frequent and believe me the source doesn't know jack shit. The others, some professional in chip fabrication business, grilled him and his responses got worse and worse to the point no one believed him. But this is internet, once it is out, it travels no matter what and this twitter guy "hears" that made up info from a troll. It is unsubstantiated, the guy didn't even know AMD was using TSM Co. for their SoCs.


Here we go. Oh boy. Bad yields aren't even Sony's problem, it is AMDs and all chips delivered to Sony must be up to Sony's spec, doing that frequency sustainably.

Also consoles always had worse end of the crop in terms of binning, Sony just up the game on that front and must have required higher binned chips for consoles for the first time. And the fact that Sony will receive their spec on AMD design as it is AMD side that promises yields that are up to spec, as all these must be all in the contract and if some bad yield happens it is either TSM or AMD that eat the cost, not Sony. This much is all talked on Beyond 3D forum for anyone who wants to check out. One guy is literally works there but in unrelated position, but still knows what's what.


I knew this video was coming but I still think his apology is disingenuous. Let me explain; the main thing is he is a YouTuber his work is making videos and making sure they are viewed many many times, so he is playing both fields,

first he is PC-master race truther telling the console fan boys 'the truth' that there is no beating the PCs, now his secondary income of not just reviewing (and also getting expensive presents all the time) but also selling hw is exposed to more marketing this way,

second when he produces a video that has enough views/clikcks etc. (exposed enough that Tim himself confronts him, adding a secondary wave of exposure) he is now 'realizing he is wrong and must apologize' so that he can also get the views/clicks of the other side of the equation - console fan boys (which isn't even part of his audience), this way he will get exposure to a new audience who may not follow, like, subscribed to him going forward.

1 and 2 mission done. But I'm not falling for it. Though it seems it is working on you guys, so good for him.

While he might be playing us, I also give people another chance, we're all human and no one is perfect, we all make mistakes...hopefully he learned his lesson before he starts popping off like he did about shit he doesn't understand, but if he does that stuff again then I will just unsubscribe and no longer watch any of his videos. I am sure he wasn't expecting the backlash that he got, next time maybe he'll think before he speaks.
 
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Three Jackdaws

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Has anyone noticed a pattern on the different events being shuffled forward, it might give us an indicator of when Sony might hold their event as well. It may also be the case that their are number of devs who are going to have their games shown off in the PS5 event are also waiting on Sony so that they can schedule their own longer and more in-depth showcase of the game through an outlet like IGN.
 
Has anyone noticed a pattern on the different events being shuffled forward, it might give us an indicator of when Sony might hold their event as well. It may also be the case that their are number of devs who are going to have their games shown off in the PS5 event are also waiting on Sony so that they can schedule their own longer and more in-depth showcase of the game through an outlet like IGN.
Pattern till now is exactly one week, so PS event is looking to be in June 11 according to that.
 

kuncol02

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12 to 10 seconds with direct storage velocity archetecture in the video....give it up guys.

Explained multiple times already even in that thread. SoD run in backward compatibility mode which cannot use velocity architecture. Exactly same thing will happen on PS5 if you even will be able to run your game.
 

geordiemp

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Explained multiple times already even in that thread. SoD run in backward compatibility mode which cannot use velocity architecture. Exactly same thing will happen on PS5 if you even will be able to run your game.

So the fast loading demo will come soon then and the existing fast loading demo and the fast resume demos on XSX dont count ?

OK. thaks for the info, good to know there will be a 1 second loading demo soon.

Also 1 last question, was the fast resume demo using the VELOCITY ARCHITECTURE as well :messenger_beaming: (or are you saying the new gfats resume on XSX is not optimised yet.....lol)
 
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GRIEVEZ

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Source of that is a guy on Beyond3D forum that I frequent and believe me the source doesn't know jack shit. The others, some professional in chip fabrication business, grilled him and his responses got worse and worse to the point no one believed him. But this is internet, once it is out, it travels no matter what and this twitter guy "hears" that made up info from a troll. It is unsubstantiated, the guy didn't even know AMD was using TSM Co. for their SoCs.


Here we go. Oh boy. Bad yields aren't even Sony's problem, it is AMDs and all chips delivered to Sony must be up to Sony's spec, doing that frequency sustainably.

Also consoles always had worse end of the crop in terms of binning, Sony just up the game on that front and must have required higher binned chips for consoles for the first time. And the fact that Sony will receive their spec on AMD design as it is AMD side that promises yields that are up to spec, as all these must be all in the contract and if some bad yield happens it is either TSM or AMD that eat the cost, not Sony. This much is all talked on Beyond 3D forum for anyone who wants to check out. One guy is literally works there but in unrelated position, but still knows what's what.


I knew this video was coming but I still think his apology is disingenuous. Let me explain; the main thing is he is a YouTuber his work is making videos and making sure they are viewed many many times, so he is playing both fields,

first he is PC-master race truther telling the console fan boys 'the truth' that there is no beating the PCs, now his secondary income of not just reviewing (and also getting expensive presents all the time) but also selling hw is exposed to more marketing this way,

second when he produces a video that has enough views/clikcks etc. (exposed enough that Tim himself confronts him, adding a secondary wave of exposure) he is now 'realizing he is wrong and must apologize' so that he can also get the views/clicks of the other side of the equation - console fan boys (which isn't even part of his audience), this way he will get exposure to a new audience who now may follow, like, subscribe to him going forward.

1 and 2 mission done. But I'm not falling for it. Though it seems it is working on you guys, so good for him.
Its not like he redeemed himself here and I dont think anyones thinking that...

What im seeing is people are commending him for at least acknowledging his faults - so Tim doesn't have to deal with certain mis informed "PCMR" types or defending his opinion... Whether hes genuinely "sorry" is up for debate. Personally im on the side of saving face... But I do respect a public apology - even if it was warranted.

What do the NLP experts say, that are well versed in micro expressions say? :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
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HAL-01

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"Don't like it don't buy it gnana"

This is too old.

Anyway i gave my thoughts on it, and that's that, no need to get pissed because you don't agree with someone else opinion, lmao.

I got DM from somebody who's pissed because i've my opinion, if you can't accept other opinions that aren't your opinions, then don't go argue with people and public forums aren't for you.

And that was the conclusion of this.
if you cant handle people responding to your opinion with their own on a forum, hoo wee

If its a remaster then sweet. i was just expecting a 60fps patch but a full remaster would mean 4K/60 with much needed AA and higher res textures
 
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