Mister Wolf
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That's not the issue. The question is whether that's something the Xbox's SSD couldn't do let alone a standard SATA SSD that's in most computers that was already many times faster than the fastest HDD in the first place.
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Can we now agree that there is no Secret Sauce Drive?
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That's not the issue. The question is whether that's something the Xbox's SSD couldn't do let alone a standard SATA SSD that's in most computers that was already many times faster than the fastest HDD in the first place.
Wonko_C
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That's pretty much instant to me. Completely different to last gen when takes more than 10 seconds to load a new planet.
MrS
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Where are MS and Nintendo's successful BR games? The fact is, 3rd parties make better multiplayer games than the first party studios are able to.
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Night.Ninja
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bender
What time is it?
More succinct than your previous reply, equally worthless. I still love you though.
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killatopak
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I think that’s more for easier transition. Like changing it in one frame will be disorienting. Obviously I’m speculating. Maybe it is for hiding loading. I just feel like it’s for better player experience.
Ivory Blood
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I'm sorry.
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love you too man, never the less, excited for both consoles, gotta admit I'm a bit sad with this ps5 event but I know their big dogs are already in the works for some spectacular IPs
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Men_in_Boxes
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I don't buy the notion that a certain business classification of developers is better at making a game type than another class.
Fortnite Save the World was made by 100 developers.
Fortnite Battle Royale was made by 11 of those employees in 7 weeks.
I'm pretty sure Sony could find a lot of success in that space. The lack of variety was insulting.
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Romulus
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The bad news is for all of us. The biggest thing now I know: XSX will also look like a shinier version of this gen. There will be nothing magic that a meager 2TF difference over PS5, when a 6TF advantage over PS4 PRO was barely apparent.
Codeblew
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Those ~2s loading transitions would be ~30s+ loading screens on PS4.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Didn't you criticize Demon's Souls remake just a few minutes ago?
Yoshida wants you dead.
Trueblakjedi
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im going to love it nevertheless
ethomaz
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The opposite.
Eu notified how games are choosing more fast movements without have LOD issues and that is an advantaged of faster SSDs.
The Racket Clack clearly chowed changing in environment without loadtimes too.
You need more gameplay data from the others games to reach a conclusion.
Eu notified how games are choosing more fast movements without have LOD issues and that is an advantaged of faster SSDs.
The Racket Clack clearly chowed changing in environment without loadtimes too.
You need more gameplay data from the others games to reach a conclusion.
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bender
What time is it?
I posted this in another thread, but it's hard to be sad. From what they've shown, I'm interested in:
Ghostwire Tokyo (Quirky Japanese FPS...and I hate FPS)
Astro Bot (VR aside and a tad simplistic mechanically, the first Astro Bot a very tight controlling 3D platformer)
Oddworld
GT7
Spider Man: Miles Morales
Demon Souls Remaster (return of the king)
Kena (lovely character designs)
Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart (always good to great)
Hitman 3 (probably cross-gen)
REVIII (a little iffy but they've been on a roll with RE)
Pragmata
Sony could have done more to showcase the "special sauce" but in reality it's going to help games load faster and hopefully help slow down game sizes ballooning again this generation (though we should expect them to get bigger).
eastwood333
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Only game I noticed the SSD in play was in Ratchet n Clank where he was warping into different environments, although it didn't seem to make the gameplay any better
Jigsaah
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So I can't help but wonder based on what we've seen today, which one of these games show off what the SSD can do. I thought maybe the closest one was Ratchet and Clank with the dimensional portal thing, but I was really hoping they'd dive deeper into what the SSD is actually doing for these games. Did I miss something that maybe some of you caught?
eastwood333
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I don't think so given the enormous amount of hype about the SSD's.
In my opinion, it's the Zen CPU's making the biggest difference. For instance, Dirt 5 will be 4k 120fps on XSX
As a console gamer, I have never played a game at 120fps and have no idea what that experience will feel like
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BlitzerRadic
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Ratchet and Clank, and it was pretty obvious the SSD was in use here.
iHaunter
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One Day = Entirety of Console Lifespan?
HerjansEagleFeeder
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Well we didn't see any loading screens today, right?
cerealbuster
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Yeah Bioshock Infinite also could do this without a ssd. R&D kinda looked messy.
jonnyp
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How surprising you would chime in....
Noboru Wataya
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Ratchet showed the ps5 ssd. The world lighting in GT7 was very good. Other than that, you could have told me all this was on PS4 and I would have believed you.
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Inxes
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GUYS HONESTLY.
You cant see what the SSD brings, if you just want games to be the prettiest they can go with Xbox. You cant see how an open world would work in PS5 via video. You cant really know if R&C seamless transitions really were planned or it was the ssd. You cant understand the difference until you see the entire game and how its designed. That will never happen in a 5 minutes video.
You cant see what the SSD brings, if you just want games to be the prettiest they can go with Xbox. You cant see how an open world would work in PS5 via video. You cant really know if R&C seamless transitions really were planned or it was the ssd. You cant understand the difference until you see the entire game and how its designed. That will never happen in a 5 minutes video.
EventHorizon
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No way the Series X is doing Ratchet & Clank's dimension portals. We'll have to see more gameplay to tell about the other games. For example I can pretty much guarantee you that you'll be able to ride flying dinosaurs in Horizon at a speed that wouldn't be possible on the Series X, and the world density in Spider-Man will likely be more than the Series X could handle.
eastwood333
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Not a single thing you just posted is based on any facts or evidence what so ever.
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yeah it was good in general but not for me personally, I'm more of a triple A gamer, I only expect the big guns and new big games in this events, with some smaller games in exception, I was expecting specially with GT7 a bigger leap, it just looks like GT Sport with RT reflections in some areas, but anyway they did a better decision in achieving 120FPS rather then just looks.
Horizon 2 I cant say it looks impressive since that wasn't gameplay, just in engine trailer, Spider Man need to see more, it looked good, but nothing that wowed me you know? But I'm not dissing on PS, I still think its 1 of the 2 titans in game market, this was just an event, and more will be shown in the following months.
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MoreJRPG
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Proved what? We've yet to see anything exclusive to Series X from Xbox first party.
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FranXico
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Yeah, loading for about a second. How quickly can you load a completely different environment on current gen consoles?
bender
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Of course R&C didn't invent the concept. It will be curious to see the final implementation.
I think if you expected Sony's drive solution to somehow make up for the gap between PS5 and Series X, you'll be disappointed. While it might not be as fast in that area, Series X also has access to very fast storage so it can probably pull off a lot of these tricks too. That's a very positive thing in general as it increases the likelihood of 3rd party developers taking advantage of the feature.
megreotsugua
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Horizon underwater gameplay. It didn't compromise on the details and texture fidelity. Above water and under water is like entering another world yet the underwater is full of life.
If this game has a flying robot that you can hack and use to fly everywhere then that would be one too.
We have to see more of the games that were shown today.
If this game has a flying robot that you can hack and use to fly everywhere then that would be one too.
We have to see more of the games that were shown today.
Krappadizzle
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I didn't notice any loading in the prerendered cut-scenes that were shown. So...mission accomplished?
MasterCornholio
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Definitely Ratchett showed it off the best. Just instantly switching between worlds was extremely impressive.
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bender
What time is it?
I'm not a huge fan of Guerrilla game mechanically, but they generally deliver the goods from a technical standpoint and probably are a good indicator of what these machines can achieve. GT Sport already looks fantastic and if they improve the LOD (though I think I did notice the lights in the tunnel pop in rather aggressively in the trailer), resolution and frame rate....and most importantly deliver it in the beginning of the generation then I'm good.
In general, I'm not sure the wow factor is there anymore for me visually. Most games these days look really good. I'd rather the focus be on performance.
itsjustJEFF
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I personally don't think anyone in here would really be able to tell. Unfortunately we are all pretty basic. We recognize Visuals the most, that's the number one thing, that's what it always boils down to. What people are judging, PS4PRO/OneX to REAL LIFE. Does it look like REAL LIFE, no. We're not getting real life anytime soon. People say it time and time again, diminishing returns.
I couldn't tell you what I would look for to showoff the SSD. Even during the UE5 demo when they were explain things, to me it just looked great and I was impressed. Something with the games I saw today here. I can't explain why exactly, but they just did. We're honestly going to need a dev to tell us what's so impressive about the games we see next get, the stuff happening in the background.
I couldn't tell you what I would look for to showoff the SSD. Even during the UE5 demo when they were explain things, to me it just looked great and I was impressed. Something with the games I saw today here. I can't explain why exactly, but they just did. We're honestly going to need a dev to tell us what's so impressive about the games we see next get, the stuff happening in the background.
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MasterCornholio
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What about Ratchet and Clank?
The part where he travels between many different dimensions does seem to indicate extremely fast asset loading.
Painskiller
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That’s possible only on PS5. I’m sure of that.
EventHorizon
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The only certainty I stated was that Ratchet and Clank couldn't be done on the Series X and I stand by that. The PS5 can stream data ~80% faster than the Series X. The dimension portal features would take too long to do and be as tightly integrated into gameplay as it was. How do I know? Because it is clear as day that Sony is doing the portals to show off the PS5 I/O speed, so they will be pushing it to the max. You simply won't be able to take away that 80% I/O speed advantage the PS5 has, and still be able to do it.
As for everything else, I stand by the fact that they are highly likely. Both Spider-Man and Horizon devs have mentioned features they had to cut or could not do because of bandwidth. Flying in Horizon, and seamless transition between inside and out for Spider-Man. It's all but guaranteed that the devs will push those features to the limit on the PS5. That's both because they already wanted to do it and Sony has an incentive to show off things the Series X can't do.
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FranXico
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