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[asustitan]

XSX has around 20% extra GPU power. Resolution would be the best way to scale, keeping everything else on par.

 

[ZywyPL]

The gen hasn't even started and PS5 already has problems with 4K, that 18% seems to be doing it's job. Just as predicted, 3rd party titles will show what's what, that "game-changing paradigm shift" is a myth.

rather know the frame rate, if its still 30fps on both, the resolution is meaningless anyway

It's an Ubi game, which is pretty much self-explanatory, no?

The last time we had a cross gen Far Cry(part 4) the PS3/360 and PS4/XB1 weren't identical in game assets. If they were willing to take the time to do that back then I don't see why they wouldn't do it again.



The PS4 Pro cant do 4K/30 and the PS5 cant do 4K/60. Simple to understand.

Judging by the released screens, next-gen version will utilize RT, so there will most likely be a much bigger difference this time around.

People have been saying for months that the GPU is weaker in the PS5.

But the SSD is 129% faster!!!

 

[VFXVeteran]

Weird, I thought the SSD would have solved this issue. I'd expect an entire generation of this.



Hit the nail on the head here.

The SSD has nothing to do with the performance of the GPU. That's the real deal when comparing graphics performance.

 

[R6Rider]

Why can't it just be 60fps, so many developers go for the 4k/30fps mark and probably won't offer lower res with higher frame options.

 

[01011001]

The game was already confirmed to be 4K 30fps on Xbox Series X.

wait... is that 100% confirmed?
ok, then maybe they push settings way beyond One X on next gen and that's why the PS5 is not 4k?

my 60fps idea would make way more sense which is why I would find it very odd if they truly run at 30fps... like... huh

 

[mckmas8808]

That 18% coming through.

Does anybody really care if the PS5 version runs at 1800p but at a better framerate?

 

[R3claimer117]

you can't punch above billions which m$ have. Sony is lesser company. new lows for ubi and m$.

Are you guys going to just toss reality to ms buying every multi platform game resolution exclusive that’s ridiculous.

 

[T-Cake]

Does anybody really care if the PS5 version runs at 1800p but at a better framerate?

I challenge anybody to be able to tell the difference between 1800p and 2160p without doing Digital Foundry type analysis.

 

[MasterCornholio]

this is why i'm ditching PS and going Xbox. i want the best performance (and yes i have a PC before anyone tells me to get one)

Upgrade your PC then.

 

[Tripolygon]

It doesn't need to say it's different. Cross-gen games have always received graphical upgrades over their last gen counterparts. There is no reason to think it won't happen here. When the PR person said Xbox One, they probably meant the One X, which is able to run games in 4K.

It doesn't? Not according to the thread title. The PR person never mentions PS5 to run at lower resolution but yet assumptions were made. So in essence the PR person may have been mistaken?

 

[Hobbygaming]

It cant be 4K on Xbox One. I think they meant Xbox One X? Ouch for PS5 if true though.

Do people really believe the Xbox One X could be more capable than the PS5 that's some fantasy land stuff right there

 

[Mister Wolf]

Weaker than the One X? We know its weaker than Series X, but you want me to believe its weaker than the One X? Come on now.

Who told you that that the One X and Series X versions are running at the same framerate or even have the same assets and visual settings? Cross gen Farcry 4 didnt.

 

[LeftThumbstick]

Weaker than the One X? We know its weaker than Series X, but you want me to believe its weaker than the One X? Come on now.

You're not understanding.

With next gen assets and upgrades:
XBSX = Full 4K resolution.
PS5 = Something other than Full 4K, probably checkerboard.

With current gen assets:
XB1X = Full 4K resolution.
PS4 Pro = Probably checkerboard as close to 4K as possible.

That's what i'm taking from it anyway, and it makes sense.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Kinda like 1080p vs 900p?

If only tht were true even on release I could tell immediately the difference between bf4 on og ps4 versus xbox and tht was 720 versus 900. It was glaring but ppl believe what thy want because agendas and all I can easily tell between 720p/900 and 1080/4K now 4k native versus CB is little different

 

[Dory16]

Ouch. At this rate nobody will complain for 4k/30 in Valhalla on XSX.
Ubi needs to learn to optimise. And they should clarify that they are not holding back the PS5 version for contractual reasons with MS. It damages their brand.

 

[Stuart360]

you can't punch above billions which m$ have. Sony is lesser company. new lows for ubi and m$.

So is this what we are going to get if multiplatform games are better on XSX?, moneyhatting?, shady deals?, but not power?.
Besides i still think its a mistake and PS5 will be 4k.

 

[Hunnybun]

I reckon this is just cos Xbox has the marketing deal - the poster only refers to Xbox. So when it says 4k on SX and 1X only, it just means in terms of the Xbox platforms.

It wouldn't make any sense otherwise.

 

[Nikana]

you can't punch above billions which m$ have. Sony is lesser company. new lows for ubi and m$.

Called it. Page 2.

 

[Thicc Enigma]

4k on One X and Series X but not PS5 tells me that the game runs at 30fps on current gen and at 60fps on next gen.
that could be why on One X it will run at 4K (like Far Cry 5 already did)
on PS5 it will run with higher settings and a lower resolution but maybe at 60fps. and on Series X, due to the better GPU, it runs at 4k60.


that's my takeaway from this.

Compute Units (CUs) XSX: 52 PS5: 36
XSX GPU clock: 1.825GHz
PS5 GPU clock: 2.23GHz

Simply it's a matter of CUs here and XSX has more of them.

 

[Birdo]

 

[Mister Wolf]

Does anybody really care if the PS5 version runs at 1800p but at a better framerate?

Yes humans care about petty shit. I shouldn't have to answer this because you already know.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

no they are playing ghost of tsushima right now

 

[Gediminas]

Are you guys going to just toss reality to ms buying every multi platform game resolution exclusive that’s ridiculous.

i would not be surprised. m$ roll like that for years. no need to pretend otherwise.

 

[Andodalf]

Far cry 5 ran at 1620p on Pro and True native 4K one XOX.

Why is anyone surprised at Farcry 6 doing the same?

 

[Demon2blades]

So no 4k for ps5 but 4k for the xone X ? Which is far below the power of the ps5 That doesn't make sense is that right ?

 

[GetemMa]

It's as if you still need the GPU to actually do the rendering or something.

I can't believe that those losers at Ubisoft couldn't figure out a way to directly dump data from the "Futuristic SSD" right to your screen. Who needs CU's anyway? Just bypass that whole GPU rendering part.

But don't fret. Open World PS5 exclusives will have no object pop in, texture popin, load times, or elevators. All at 1440p upscaled.

$400 for the Digital and I'm in.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Seems so. Just like the SSD is the new eSRAM.

That's not even close to being the same thing. Even the SRAM in the PS5 is being used differently.

 

[Tripolygon]

wait... is that 100% confirmed?
ok, then maybe they push settings way beyond One X on next gen and that's why the PS5 is not 4k?

my 60fps idea would make way more sense which is why I would find it very odd if they truly run at 30fps... like... huh

Well they said targeting 4K 30fps. And no there is nothing Xbox Series X can do at 4K that PS5 cannot do at 4K with slightly lower setting.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

I’m assuming the Scorpio will run the current gen version at 4k and the Pro will be less. Then the Series X will run the next gen version at 4k and the PS5 will be less.

Isn’t this obvious?

 

[Yams]

It doesn't? Not according to the thread title. The PR person never mentions PS5 to run at lower resolution but yet assumptions were made. So in essence the PR person may have been mistaken?

Uhh..? They never said the PS5 runs at a lower resolution but they did say only the Xbox runs in 4K. It's implied.

 

[Jigsaah]

A previous gen console runs the game at 4K, but not a console that has a better GPU regardless. Ok.

I think Klik may have nailed it.
If it's about the asset on the respective generations then it starts to make sense. Current Gen assets on Xbox One X enable it to do 4k. Next Gen assets enable XSX to do 4k.

The PS5 can do 4k, but may be limited if say the game's next gen iteration is targeting 60fps with next gen assets. I'm guessing ubisoft had to make a choice. Either give PS5 something closer to current gen assets to achieve 4k and whatever framerate they are targeting for next gen or give em the next gen assets but sacrifice 4k.

Similar things have happened in Shadow of War for example. "Soupgate", I think it was coined after the Digital Foundry analysis of the PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X Enhancement comparison

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Does anybody really care if the PS5 version runs at 1800p but at a better framerate?

What if its 1800p but the same framerate? Does anybody care then?

 

[01011001]

Compute Units (CUs) XSX: 52 PS5: 36
XSX GPU clock: 1.825GHz
PS5 GPU clock: 2.23GHz

Simply it's a matter of CUs here and XSX has more of them.

that's not the weird part tho, noone argues that many games that will run at 4k on Series X might not reach that on PS5. that's obvious.

but the question here is, what makes the next gen port so much more demanding compared to current gen versions, that the One X can reach 4k30, but the PS5 can't.

this must mean that they push settings WAY beyond current gen. but in what way that would make it not possible for the PS5 to reach 4k.

to me that first sounded like a framerate shift from 30 on current gen to 60 on next gen.
if that's already ruled out, then the next thing could be raytracing? but as far as I'm aware they haven't even confirmed raytracing on PC for this game, so we'll see

 

[Tripolygon]

Uhh..? They never said the PS5 runs at a lower resolution but they did say only the Xbox runs in 4K. It's implied.

So it is also implied that both the Xbox One and and Series X are identical.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

What if its 1800p but the same framerate? Does anybody care then?

Going by 2013, 1080p vs 900p was a huge debacle for big budget or open world games, even though lots of other games had the same res.

 

[longdi]

PS5 cant run FC6 with nextgen assets at 4K?
hehe... let see where our 'variable-most-of-the-time' stans be saying?

 

[mejin]

Haha you guys never learn

 

[FranXico]

to me that first sounded like a framerate shift from 30 on current gen to 60 on next gen.
if that's already ruled out, then the next thing could be raytracing? but as far as I'm aware they haven't even confirmed raytracing on PC for this game, so we'll see

Even then, if the big difference comes drom raytracing, it isn't an "all or nothing" situation with it. It can be scaled down for the PS5 (and it most certainly will).

 

[On Demand]

That tweet doesn’t mean what you think it means. It’s crazy how much misinformation continues to be said about PS5.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

That's quite something considering Sony has a marketing deal for FC6, don't they?

I think Klik 's post on the XBO mention being a slip up for One X with current-gen asset quality is what Ubi meant to say there. There's zero chance XBO or the One S could run this game in 4K UHD.

So that probably means PS5 version is 4K but with lower texture asset quality.

That tweet doesn’t mean what you think it means. It’s crazy how much misinformation continues to be said about PS5.

Then blame Ubisoft.

 

[Yams]

So it is also implied that both the Xbox One and and Series X are identical.

No. The implication is that the One X and the Series X both run in 4K. That doesn't mean they are identical. We are going in circles.

 

[ManaByte]

This reminds me when Call of Duty only ran in 720p on the Xbox One in 2013.

RESOLUTIONGATE 2!

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Oh, shit, didn’t I already say this in the other thread, but people got all defensive and shit and had a go at me...

...come on people lol. Common sense.

For those that don’t understand why it’s this way, it’s simple: the game is optimised and changed on series x, pushing out higher quality and settings. It’s already 4k on Xbox one x, but running current gen settings (at 4k).

On PS4, the game is running current gen settings, and then for Pro, it’s the same settings but at a higher res.

for PS5, it’s simply the game in BC. Nothing more. It will run better on average, due to increased power, and will hit its Dynamic res mode often. But it’s still capped lower than yes, even the one x.

In short the Ps5 version is just the PS4 pro version. That’s why.

 

[SilentUser]

Ouch, that's pretty bad for both SONY and Ubisoft, to be honest.

 

[MasterCornholio]

What if its 1800p but the same framerate? Does anybody care then?

Is 1800P half way between 1440P and 2160P?

If it is then that resolution will look awesome on my monitor since I game at 1440P on it.

My monitor is 4K btw.

 

[sendit]

I have a feeling this thread will age well. I’ll revisit when we get more info.

 

[Qudrat Rabbi]

I know dawg. They keep distracting me with GOTY contending exclusives over real issues like Ubisoft games running at a higher resolution LMAO

 

[iorek21]

So, they want me to believe that the PS5 can’t handle even a early cross-gen game with high quality assets at 4k?

This is bullshit, both consoles are very powerful, and not even the slight hardware advantage that Series X has should translate into this kind of disparity.

This is just Ubi building unoptimized games as usual

 

[NickFire]

Who told you that that the One X and Series X running at the same framerate of even have the same assets or visual settings? Cross gen Farcry 4 didnt.

Alright, now I'm just getting confused by what cross gen means for next gen. I'll circle back for the reviews and comparisons of this game, although I'm rather confident that this one will not be the one that shows how these next gen consoles really stack up against each other for next gen games.

 

[Mister Wolf]