T-Cake
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Probably something like this (From another thread here on Era):
I wonder what would happen if you run the console without the white covers?
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I wonder what would happen if you run the console without the white covers?
SSfox
Member
Yeah MGS always goes beyond the "game just for fun", it has messages, the franchise will always be a pillar in the genre.
MGS1 was way too ahead on its time, on everything, gameplay, storytelling, and there were subject of real life no devs would have dare to put in games, and there was a bit fantasy too, everything was done quite perfectly to fit the very unique and iconic inverse it ended becoming. MGS is life.
It's funny when i think back then, i've seen the TV Spot and i was "Ok seems just some random stealth game", and then it ended being my favorite game of all time, and imo it still has the best bosses of all time on any game to this day, no game has ever matched that, personal opinion.
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bitbydeath
Member
These measurements would mean the PS5 is almost twice the size of the XSX in volume. They'll probably have a slim version in 1-2 years
They’re pretty thin though.
Darius87
Member
from what i played mgs5 have best and most responsive fluid controls of any game really amazing game definitely top 5.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It killed me when he didn't call David Hayter! This guy told a story of grown men asking him to make Solid Snake voice, and that made them cry! He's so passionate to gaming, and he has his iconic voice that shouldn't be replaced.
Kiefer Sutherland did a wonderful job replicating his voice, but hiring a very expensive actor is pretty dumb for such a demanding game that made the protagonist silent most of the time! Kojima is arrogant, but his genius can't be denied. Also he's cringy as fuck I can't take his shitty jokes since the MGS1 box.
Hawking Radiation
Member
I'm trying my best not to laugh at this because i'm at work
My love for this man knows no bounds.
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Hawking Radiation
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sircaw
Banned
Surely the remaster has to be free, i mean unless its all coming in one big combo, like the console and the games.
I have yet to play spider man and that thought of gettin both games at once is very tempting but super unfair on other users that already own it, i doubt sony will want any negative press on this so, i am sure they will sort something out.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It's funny that back then all people referring to it as "Al Jasoos = The Spy" due to it's fucked up name that sounds like random words out of a dictionary.
I think it was the very first game to make me tear, most games were extremely bland and goofy back then. And Kojima's taste of music is on another level:
It was a major shift of how games should be presented. Having Kojima Production as a Sony 1st party is pretty fitting.
sircaw
Banned
God damn floozy. Have some standards man. Be more like me ffs.
Heisnberg i sent you
in a private msg
THE:MILKMAN
Member
I'm sticking to my earlier guess: 375mm x 95mm x 250mm
Thirty7ven
Banned
Very interesting that the system that is underpowered and wasn’t supposed to have hardware RT is the one leading the charge.
sircaw
Banned
Thant god you were replying to a quote, for a second i was getting worried about those measurements, jeez
Hey thanks sircaw nice to know I been missedmy mind just melted.
And fs where have you been, stop taking exotic holidays on important gaming event days. You are needed here dammit.
Not by me, don't get your hopes up. Its for the other people.
what? your shocked no wisecrack return? That so called exotic holiday was a retreat to a Buddhist monastery, hence the previous post of enlightenment. So pi... peace out
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sircaw
Banned
Hey thanks sircaw nice to know I been missed
what? your shocked no wisecrack return? That so called exotic holiday was a retreat to a Buddhist monastery, hence the previous post of enlightenment. So pi... peace out
WTF where is the spice, i start feeling uncomfortable when people start being nice.
Note to self, Must prepare harder.
GRIEVEZ
Member
I absolutely loved this game. Coming from a SNES, this was the freaking future lol. The story, the music, codec convo's, the va, its gameplay - everything. It'll always be near and dear to me. I do think Tomokazu Fukushima's contribution is criminally overlooked...
Btw wanna get "spooked", watch this clip. You won't be disappointed.
This is a 19 year old game. Its almost like this convo is relevant today
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Metroiddarks
Member
I agree is few people in industry who is arrogant have reason to be but that guy know its stuff, in some way I play its last game DS and even when I don't love it
I was far of hate it, Kojima know how make games.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
These measurements would mean the PS5 is almost twice the size of the XSX in volume. They'll probably have a slim version in 1-2 years
I am putting a 4k laptop screen on the side of mine for the ultimate gaming on the go.
Rudius
Member
GT 7 had real gameplay at 60fps and was running on PS5. Forza had an in engine trailer running probably on a PC at 30 fps, which is almost like just saying it is in development. We can't really compare the two at this point.I think folks are going OTT in regards to follow-up video on Halo from DF. However, I do think Alex is inconsistent with his critiques. While watching the DF direct, when they are going over Halo gameplay, John makes an observation about stigma surrounding XGS who have to compete with Sony WWS, and how they are known for pushing visual boundaries, Alex immediately cuts him off 'at 30fps though!'. John tries to elaborate on it before he cuts him off again, 'really? really? I think it matters'. The thing is, he is not even wrong here. But, the the tone is telling. Part of the reason why Sony WWS games look so good is due to them running at 30fps, yes, but there goes a ton of work to make them look that good. There are many games from XGS who run at 30fps too and they can't stack up visually.
This performance metric goes AWOL when he is talking about RT in Forza trailer, quick to point out how much better RT reflections are from GT7 but fails to mention it's running at half the frames compared to GT7. These are among many inconsistencies folks find when he is giving his views on these games, can't be having different yardstick and benchmarks when you're just discussing visuals.
I don't even mind folks being biased, inherent bias is a real thing. But, at least own up to it, instead of playing the victim and pointing how others have a persecution complex, which btw is an absurd overused term these days. Anyways, my 2 cents on this non-sense.
I was so confused by your initial post. Yeah, there are jaggies all over the place in screenshots so their rendering pipeline is not complete. Surely, it'll be improved upon in the retail version as they implement AA?
Can you provide comparisons, because I think Forza looks better. Especially the road. I saw some low texture for the road in GT7 and even pop-in during the gameplay section.
EliteSmurf
Member
We lost the infamous LOL giver sociapath
SleepDoctor
so it is only fitting we give him the farewell that he deserves.
Thank the heavens that
Doncabesa
is still here to bless this thread.
Doncabesa
is still here to bless this thread.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I absolutely loved this game. Coming from a SNES, this was the freaking future lol. The story, the music, codec convo's, the va, its gameplay - everything. It'll always be near and dear to me. I do think Tomokazu Fukushima's contribution is criminally overlooked...
Btw wanna get "spooked", watch this clip. You won't be disappointed.
This is a 19 year old game. Its almost like this convo is relevant today
Kojima must be hanged! He's a black magician! I don't remember clearly all that convo as my English wasn't that good enough to keep up, nor I would understand it as I do know with all BS around! This man is ahead of his time.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Forza was just another piece of bullshit, another target render.
Wraith Phantom
Member
I absolutely loved this game. Coming from a SNES, this was the freaking future lol. The story, the music, codec convo's, the va, its gameplay - everything. It'll always be near and dear to me. I do think Tomokazu Fukushima's contribution is criminally overlooked...
Btw wanna get "spooked", watch this clip. You won't be disappointed.
This is a 19 year old game. Its almost like this convo is relevant today
How happy will you boys be if the Konami come back rumour is real?? (I believe the comeback is real)
How happy will you boys be if a MGS 1 remake existed? (I think is real) with decima engine. (bluepoint,+kojipro+konami)
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Osiris also said PS5 had better Raytracing. He said the XSX Dev kits used the same solution as a 1080Ti. Which didn’t make sense to me as it’s not an RTX card. He said it was ‘slapped on’ if I remember correctly.
Still waiting to see the games both him and Klee saw.
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Lmao!We lost the infamous LOL giver sociapath
Thank the heavens that
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I'm not into recycled stories/games if I did play them, I would rather have MGS6. I want the Big Boss story, the true one. Finished MGS1 17 times, MGS2 21 times, MGS3 3 times, MGS once, MGSV once.
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sircaw
Banned
We lost the infamous LOL giver sociapath
Thank the heavens that
I don't know what happened to the dude but he was taking this stuff way to serious.
when a forum starts giving you serious blow out, you need to take a step back.
Saying that, i did not like his approach of telling people to report people all the time, if someone steps out of line fair enough, report them, but to constantly spam it, is fucking sad in my book.
People are allowed to have different opinions, i mean look at me.
The vast majority of people on this forum think that i am a sex god, but to me i am just a simple little fish. Who the hell am i to argue with their opinions
Hawking Radiation
Member
So disappointed we got a CGI trailer for that game. I know Turn 10 churns out good games and its been a while since the last Forza so i thought they would have gameplay ready.
The whole show was a disappointment for me. At least Sony showed some game play. Maybe not a ton of it but enough to give us an idea of next gen games.
Always look forward to your posts. Full of humour and by god we need that in this forum nowadays.I don't know what happened to the dude but he was taking this stuff way to serious.
when a forum starts giving you serious blow out, you need to take a step back.
Saying that, i did not like his approach of telling people to report people all the time, if someone steps out of line fair enough, report them, but to constantly spam it, is fucking sad in my book.
People are allowed to have different opinions, i mean look at me.
The vast majority of people on this forum think that i am a sex god, but to me i am just a simple little fish. Who the hell am i to argue with their opinions
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
We lost the infamous LOL giver sociapath
Thank the heavens that
It's a sad ending TBH.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I don't know what happened to the dude but he was taking this stuff way to serious.
when a forum starts giving you serious blow out, you need to take a step back.
Saying that, i did not like his approach of telling people to report people all the time, if someone steps out of line fair enough, report them, but to constantly spam it, is fucking sad in my book.
People are allowed to have different opinions, i mean look at me.
The vast majority of people on this forum think that i am a sex god, but to me i am just a simple little fish. Who the hell am i to argue with their opinions
No one should take this stuff that seriously unless they have a pony in the game. We can all disagree and debate. That’s all healthy.
As for you.. I’ve been around here a long time. I’ve never thought of you as a sex God. All I heard was you fucked a fluke, a flounder, and a Flipper. All good though. I ain’t judging.
sircaw
Banned
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Damn he got perma'd. I was hoping to hear back from him after his temp ban see him banned during the xsx conference.We lost the infamous LOL giver sociapath
Thank the heavens that
GRIEVEZ
Member
Teen me didnt understand what the hell was being said either, honestly I was confused as hell at the time haha. But I stumbled on this convo a while back.
It's some wicked foresight.
sircaw
Banned
That was all in my younger days, now it's Barnacles and the occasional old clam i'm afraid. In many ways the last example is actually correct, SIGH, nvm, i just grossed my self out.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Sounds fishy to me. Like I said.. all good. We’re just having fun.
MasterCornholio
Member
He had a pretty severe meltdown because he couldn't get over his last ban. Then they said enough and that's that.
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GRIEVEZ
Member
Id love a MGS1 remake, but i'd love a MG remake even more. It's never been touched upon and there's definitely a story to be told
Also being in South Africa (Outer Heaven), looks like an awesome setting for a next gen game. Seems like a good follow up to MGS5 as well
But I think the chances of Kojima's involvement, is very very slim. (With the rumors of him wanting to make a Horror game/original IP)
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I don't know what happened to the dude but he was taking this stuff way to serious.
when a forum starts giving you serious blow out, you need to take a step back.
Saying that, i did not like his approach of telling people to report people all the time, if someone steps out of line fair enough, report them, but to constantly spam it, is fucking sad in my book.
People are allowed to have different opinions, i mean look at me.
The vast majority of people on this forum think that i am a sex god, but to me i am just a simple little fish. Who the hell am i to argue with their opinions
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SleepDoctor
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I don't know, I kinda miss him.
Apollo Helios
Member
Apart from Matt's comment from Twitter, that what GE is much more broader and powerful than just having VRS, it is somewhat a mystery to anybody at this point. I mean in the presentation, prim shaders were only just a small portion of the brain that is supposed to be representing Geometry Engine. And even that prim shaders part are making a big difference this time around (like they were supposed to in the past but didn't bc it was not easy to implement and depended on the game devs -> they were either lazy or optimizing elsewhere for bigger gains than making an effort in prim shaders).
This time around prim shaders are culling the blocked portions of the objects or objects outside of screen space at the very beginning of rendering without game developer interaction or coding specifically for it. -> That makes the world of difference.
And what I found is that it is the basis of Mesh Shading in DX12, but GE doesn't stop there and invents on top of it. Sony First started (GNM and GNMX) giving whole objects numbers and then partial objects getting tagged by the same number in a sequence for rendering purposes, then it became the basis of Mesh Shading in DX 12.
These changes are definitely dev fueled and let me get you on a journey through dev memory lane -> Do anyone here remember Mantle API? How it was hyped and why? Then it died and Vulkan born. Well I can say that even then I was following these. Devs mostly wanted low level access to hardware, they wanted how instructions worked exposing their workings in the hardware so that they can code and optimize better, since they could on a Sony console. X360 and XBOne are basically DirectX shells so they are just closed system (as in no component will change so that the game code can be optimized well) but not low level access console systems. PS3 Cell, but most precisely SPUs were so amazing for the devs that they could actually slack on harder to do coding and with its brute power it would manage, and when you code for it in low access then you could make magic. Now PS4 didn't have Cell's SPUs but it had large number of ACEs (8 of them vs 2 for PCs and Xbox) that could help them make CUs work in parallel so much better that GPU CUs could be utilized more in parallel (not close to 100% utilization of SPUs ever, maybe half at most). That HW secret sauce was coming from the collective minds at Sony headed by Cerny. You didn't have to utilize ACEs (or maybe utilize some and not all) but when you do work them all we get TLOU 2 and GoT at the end of generation.
Cort at the time was part of Sony ICE team, look at his Twitter 'about me' portion and you will see a direct correlation between his ICE input
https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,156605/and what I am pointing at, also he then became one of the guys architecting Vulkan next.
Playstation 4 Vs Xbox One GPU | Understanding the Differences
The Playstation 4 & Xbox One's GPU specs are the subject of much discussion, in this article we'll focus on key hardware differences, API & performance.
www.redgamingtech.com
[and btw as a side, isn't this our own
yewles1
Now imagine that they have not only Geometry Engine on their GPU, but have also brought back some of the Cell SPU magic in the form of Tempest inside the same GPU. Well you don't have to imagine more, it is in the PS5 already
the arrow has been LOOSEd in the air, the target doesn't know it has been hit just yet One of the tidbits I could find was how foveated rendering was within Sony's R&D with their patents and some literal implementation on the PSVR. Now there is research for foveated VRS too from Sony (I think someone here mentioned this recently too) and I don't think that is just for PSVR 2. Sony is great in giving options to devs, and devs is an umbrella term encompassing from lazy ones to incompetent ones and then to master ones. When devs put those special hw to good use you get good games. This was true for PS4 and it will be true for PS5, but what is more, Cerny also made sure to put some pieces of hw in there that is making the jobs of devs easier without them knowing or handling it, the correct working version of prim shaders is just one of them. Let me just say positional audio on the PSVR was really easy to develop into the games and how Uncharted 4, Uncharted LL, HZD, Days Gone, RDR2 (and some other games I missed too) and lately TLOU 2 and GoT had it and quality wise it was at least on par with Atmos for Headphones (which somehow everyone missed this detail). This is non customized CUs helping in audio only possible with the parallelization help of ACEs, now PS5 will feature customized CU just for audio, but the work on it has started much earlier with PS4 and VR. You see Cerny master plan is not just for a single console, it is for the entire ecosystem feeding tech into each other to the next iteration.
Another Sony giving options to devs who would use, is custom CheckerBoard rendering HW present only in PS4 Pros. HZD uses it and looks amazing in terms of sharpness and resolution. For example, Spider Man didn't even use that HW (became a more basic solution at that point) or even any CheckerBoarding at all, but used a technique called Temporal Injection (that specific application is patented to Insomniac and I believe one of the reasons of Sony acquisition). Temporal Injection also became the get go solution for doubling the frame rates of ambitious PSVR games later on.
Insomniac Interview: The Tech Behind Marvel’s Spider-Man
Learn how @InsomniacGames taps into the power of PS4 and PS4 Pro to create a massive world that looks Amazing. #SpiderManPS4
blog.playstation.com
Now it doesn't take a genius to guess that natural next step for PS5 is to implement a customized HW that does said Temporal Injection in the alpha blending or post processing stage of the graphics pipeline at the GPU, that is if you choose to incorporate that, again most likely it will be an option.
With all of these custom HW in mind, I think PS5 die is going to be huge, in fact it can be as big as XSX. We will finally see in the teardown when that finally happens ffs.
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sircaw
Banned
Jul 27, 2020 Permanent Ongoing harassment complaint about you, and generally disruptive behavior. Best we part ways.
I don't know, I kinda miss him.
Yer i wanted to jest with him abit when he came back, but i don't know maybe he was just to unhinged.
I seriously hope i did not cause his melt down.
If it was Geordie or Dan-of-Riva/paul then i would of welcomed their bans
Oh well nvm.Next target is
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
My gut is telling me this is like a Halo 3 ODST/Recon thing where it started out as an expansion and then it sort of morphed into its own product and they justified the $60 price tag by saying all the multi is in it.
yewles1
Member
Your attempt is as flat as a tuna patty.I recall the conversation about you and Bo wanting to make her into a wish bone. I had not idea what you guys were talking about so i left it. all i know is, it sounded really dirty, a bit like Yewles1
that's like a triple whammy i just fired out,
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sircaw
Banned
I will deal with you tomorrow, Gimli.
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