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[FunkMiller]

Defo a new Silent Hill coming..the official twitter account was just made this month..

Hmmmm. Ps5 exclusive? Place your bets!

 

[sircaw]

Hmmmm. Ps5 exclusive? Place your bets!

Never played a silent hill before but imagine that with the new tempest engine.

That sounds like a match in heaven.

 

[AveragePhoenix]

Something fun... People are laughing at Microsoft and this is what he thinks, a bit of fun and run with it.

You know, despite all the hate flowing through your veins right now, not everyone uses Craig to laugh at Microsoft, at least not normal people

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Phil Spinner.

 

[hemo memo]

Microsoft probably wanted to end the August event with Halo free multiplayer news as a big surprise but that’s out. The more both companies wait the more potential for leaks. Announce the date already.

 

[PaintTinJr]

The issue is that Sony WILL lose customers over this. How would they not? Charging 60 bucks just to play online, while MS makes it free? All of social media, youtube etc complaining about how anti consumer Sony is. And it sure as hell wouldn't continue years down the road. So i totally disagree with you, as usual

This is all hypothetical to be clear. This is all assuming MS actually does it. And i'm not saying they will. And i also find it strange MS would throw huge amounts of money away.

The problem for Xbox IMO is that they aren't coming from the 'holier than thou' position, especially as they were part of those that enabled Sega (the first proper console) to charge online fees - as it was all Windows software on Dreamcast - and then proceeded to keep that arrangement when they took Sega's place. Xbox was anti-poor gamer, and pro-exclusion from the outset IMO, hence why it is called gold - probably to mimic the higher tier notion of the credit cards. And AFAIK Playstation doesn't have a Ps+ requirement for free-to-play games like fornite, anyway.

So as someone that doesn't pay for gold/PS+ on the main consoles, and hasn't paid for either - and hates that I've been guilted into paying Nintendo's sub for online play with brother and nephew - I would need xbox to go sub free for an entire generation or more to believe they've changed their ways - that brought this all about - and I think many others would feel the same.

 

[Metroiddarks]

I thought the mascot was Timdog

 

[Explosive Zombie]

man I would really need a YouTube video zooming in and focusing on specific aspects to ever see the difference between cut scene and game play in a game like God of war I certainly couldn't tell the difference while I was playing it

 

[sircaw]

You know, despite all the hate flowing through your veins right now, not everyone uses Craig to laugh at Microsoft, at least not normal people

Seriously, Stop, Phil spencer could take a dump on your head and you would still praise him.

Come on dude, enough now.

 

[DForce]

Hmmmm. Ps5 exclusive? Place your bets!

Rumor is that Sony of Japan is working on the project.

 

[FunkMiller]

Never played a silent hill before but imagine that with the new tempest engine.

That sounds like a match in heaven.

I think it would be a pretty good system seller for Sony. And it’s an IP they’ve been heavily associated with over the years. Can entirely see a deal being struck with Konami to develop a game for the Ps5, hopefully with some of Team Silent back. You never know.

Rumor is that Sony of Japan is working on the project.

Yeah, I tried not to read too much into that as the info was pretty shaky... but would be fantastic if true!

 

[Bo_Hazem]

The problem for Xbox IMO is that they aren't coming from the 'holier than thou' position, especially as they were part of those that enabled Sega (the first proper console) to charge online fees - as it was all Windows software on Dreamcast - and then proceeded to keep that arrangement when they took Sega's place. Xbox was anti-poor gamer, and pro-exclusion from the outset IMO, hence why it is called gold - probably to mimic the higher tier notion of the credit cards. And AFAIK Playstation doesn't have a Ps+ requirement for free-to-play games like fornite, anyway.

So as someone that doesn't pay for gold/PS+ on the main consoles, and hasn't paid for either - and hates that I've been guilted into paying Nintendo's sub for online play with brother and nephew - I would need xbox to go sub free for an entire generation or more to believe they've changed their ways - that brought this all about - and I think many others would feel the same.

You being this smart and educated is a side effect of living near the University of Oxford. Wonderful information, as always.

 

[AveragePhoenix]

Seriously, Stop, Phil spencer could take a dump on your head and you would still praise him.

Come on dude, enough now.

I'm not praising anyone, I'm a part of the Halo community, it's just a fact, we laugh about it but not with "hate towards Microsoft".
Most people from the Halo community don't even care about Microsoft tbh.

 

[Games Dean]

I expect Mon/Tues we hear about the SOP for late next week and at the end of said SOP we get something along the lines of see you in a couple of weeks with another different type of show.

Afternoon guesses and all.

And just like that, the last two days were worth it.

 

[sircaw]

I'm not praising anyone, I'm a part of the Halo community, it's just a fact, we laugh about it but not with "hate towards Microsoft".
Most people from the Halo community don't even care about Microsoft tbh.

Ok bud, As long as your all dandy,
Let's move on.

 

[kretos]

 

[Entroyp]

They should use craig to announce multiplayer is free

It’s good that Phil doesn’t take all the backslash seriously but actually communicating with that guy in public makes him Look bad.

 

[sircaw]

You being this smart and educated is a side effect of living near the University of Oxford. Wonderful information, as always.

I owned property in oxford circus before, 3 little red houses and a hotel.

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

 

[eastwood333]

The problem for Xbox IMO is that they aren't coming from the 'holier than thou' position, especially as they were part of those that enabled Sega (the first proper console) to charge online fees - as it was all Windows software on Dreamcast - and then proceeded to keep that arrangement when they took Sega's place. Xbox was anti-poor gamer, and pro-exclusion from the outset IMO, hence why it is called gold - probably to mimic the higher tier notion of the credit cards. And AFAIK Playstation doesn't have a Ps+ requirement for free-to-play games like fornite, anyway.

So as someone that doesn't pay for gold/PS+ on the main consoles, and hasn't paid for either - and hates that I've been guilted into paying Nintendo's sub for online play with brother and nephew - I would need xbox to go sub free for an entire generation or more to believe they've changed their ways - that brought this all about - and I think many others would feel the same.

I don't find it relevant weather MS was first to start charging for playing online. I mean, that was back in 2005? They were significantly ahead of sony at that time when it came to Xbox Live and it's features.

MS has a reputation for being consumer friendly now. As i've stated above, you better believe the backlash will be severe within the industry, social media,youtube etc.

As you said, you're not big on playing online to begin with, so it's not a big issue for you, where as people who play COD, GTA, RDR2,BF, GR etc, this will be a big factor for many.

Some people do not like supporting a brand if they feel like they're getting ripped off when the competition is offering the same service for free. People have been complaining about paying to play online for years.

 

[JonnyMP3]

these are the official ones

Oooooooooo shineyyy....

 

[Thirty7ven]

His answer is just standard modern PR. They did the same with the fridge meme. There’s no point fighting it, might as well join in.

But Tim Dog? Really Phill?

 

[eastwood333]

Rumor is that Sony of Japan is working on the project.

Aren't they already tied up with a new AstroBot VR game and a few other titles and helping out with the DS Remaster? If they do, i hope it's not like the last Siren game.

 

[Crazychipmunx]

Aren't they already tied up with a new AstroBot VR game and a few other titles and helping out with the DS Remaster? If they do, i hope it's not like the last Siren game.

Japan studio is massive. I doubt they're using a fraction of their resources on the titles listed.

 

[kretos]

Hmmmm. Ps5 exclusive? Place your bets!

it's been rumored for a while now that Japan studio is making it and the reveal is this month

 

[SaucyJack]

Microsoft Is Said to Be in Talks to Buy TikTok in U.S. - Bloomberg

Microsoft Is in Talks to Buy TikTok in U.S.

Microsoft Corp. is exploring an acquisition of TikTok’s operations in the U.S., according to a people familiar with the matter. A deal would give the software company a popular social-media service and relieve U.S. government pressure on the Chinese owner of the video-sharing app.

www.bloomberg.com

Thread Link:

Microsoft Is Said to Be in Talks to Buy TikTok in U.S. - Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-31/microsoft-is-said-to-be-in-talks-to-buy-tiktok-in-u-s Microsoft Corp. is exploring an acquisition of TikTok’s operations in the U.S., according to a person familiar with the matter. A deal would give the software company a popular social-media...

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interesting but what’s it got to do with next generation consoles. Or gaming at all for that matter?

 

[Games Dean]

Why wouldn't they just drop XBL? They've been pushing "the most consumer friendly console in the world" narrative for a while now. It's all to get more people on their platforms and sell Game Pass. Eventually what they try to do is get people to buy into the Xbox ecosystem, and NOT invest into Sony's ecosystem. Sony will probably sell +120 PS4 consoles. Microsoft made the calculation that if they can get a part of that market it will be worth it to drop XBL fees knowing their attach rate to Game Pass. Combined with PC Game Pass of course.

They are playing the long game. They know they won't win console selling wars this generation. They just want to sell as many subscription as possible in the next 10 years.

So on one hand I completely agree that getting rid of Xbox gold seems in line with what they've been doing and with how they want to market themselves.

But on the other hand, Gamepass is straight up not profitable right now. And I'm not going to pretend I know exactly how long it will be until it will be, but historically with other streaming services, it takes awhile. I just find it hard to believe that such a high gross profit % revenue stream would be abandoned before the other service (game pass) is producing profits.

But Jeff seems pretty convinced and I believe they are going to drop it. I guess I'm just struggling to see how this strategy is going to be yielding actual high profits to the company rather than just revenue. Maybe Microsoft just doesn't care.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

They will drop XLG for sure

 

[Insane Metal]

They will drop XLG for sure

Isn't that one of the things driving revenue tho?

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's possible it'll look exactly like the footage shown at the July event. That would explain the lackluster graphics a bit more.

Nah, they were showing off the single player portion in which they claimed was 60 multiple times. They even boasted a bit about the 60, proudly.

 

[RicochetBullet]

I think the whole graphics issue with Horizon Forbidden West can be temporarily resolved with PROBABILITY.

If Guerrilla Games can make a game look this good on current, stoneage hardware...

...it is VERY PROBABLE they can make a game look THIS good on hardware so powerful it dwarfs the capabilities of PS4.

Based on GG's track record, people convinced this is far from launch quality will crap their pants when time is due.

 

[sircaw]

They will drop XLG for sure

hopefully, Microsoft will show some more games at their next event, if sony brings out something really big, Microsoft might have to do something drastic to get some mindshare out there.

Personally I can see them doing something like this, they like to burn money.

 

[SSfox]

La PS5 consommera 16 fois moins que la PS4 en mode veille

Sony tente ainsi de rejoindre le programme « Playing for the Planet » mis en place par l’Organisation des Nations Unies pour lutter contre le changement climatique

www.20minutes.fr

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This is old news, but i found it interesting, didn't knew about it so i'll share in case somebody didn't about it as well, so PS5 will consume 16 times less power than PS4 in rest mode, so 0,5 watts (PS4 is 8,5 watts), pretty cool thing.

 

[JonnyMP3]

Craig is love
Craig is life
Phil knows

 

[jimbojim]

Well, if you ignore the rapid teleportation, the overall graphics presentation looks current gen. I don't see anything in those vids that indicate to me "advanced rendering". I took a peek at FS2020's graphics settings and immediately clapped when I saw "texture synthesis". That's a technique only done in the film industry. It's a way of using procedural texturing and then capturing that texture across a large surface so you can filter it. Procedural texture generation has been avoided in games so far because of it's expense. On top of that, it's a nightmare to filter because you have to do it analytically. That one feature right there is more advanced than anything we've seen to date in the realtime sector outside of ray-tracing.

Regarding Ratchet, everything on PS5 is a step up from PS4 version. Same can be applied for new Spidey

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

I think the whole graphics issue with Horizon Zero Dawn Forbidden West can be temporarily resolved with PROBABILITY.

If Guerrilla Games can make a game look this good on current, stoneage hardware...

...it is VERY PROBABLE they can make a game look THIS good on hardware so powerful it dwarfs the capabilities of PS4.

Based on GG's track record, people convinced this is far from launch quality will crap their pants when time is due.

The base in the sea with snow and water moving in Killzone 3 I still refuse to believe being rendered by my PS3 despite having played the game 3 times. Just that "nah bruh" moment.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Isn't that one of the things driving revenue tho?

I think he's trying to be sarcastic.

 

[sircaw]

Regarding Ratchet, everything on PS5 is a step up from PS4 version. Same can be applied for new Spidey

Scene when Rachet glides down to the boat, simply incredible, the water in the background, everything is so next gen.

 

[saintjules]

I thought the mascot was Timdog

That would explain a lot actually.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Evident for sure shown like this. I wouldn't say it was worlds different enough to think the first shot wasn't representative of what to expect in game, other than optimization downgrades. Same with something like GoT. That's why I still think what we're seeing in HFW in engine trailer running on PS5 hardware is still much representative of what we could expect for the most part.

I see some of these same things in the hair in the underwater scuba scene, and again, still think it would be pretty representative by comparison of what to expect on console.

The two shots cannot be compared due to very different lighting settings and even then there is no clear difference. He also zoomed too much on the gameplay image to make it ugly.

 

[Kerlurk]

Defo a new Silent Hill coming..the official twitter account was just made this month..

Took me a while to find it.

https://twitter.com/silenthill

 

[SSfox]

Those numbers Xbox can't even dream of.

This is insane if true, MK11 reached 5 millions on PS4 months ago already.

 

[RicochetBullet]

The base in the sea with snow and water moving in Killzone 3 I still refuse to believe being rendered by my PS3 despite having played the game 3 times. Just that "nah bruh" moment.

So much can be done with knowhow and tricks when it comes to graphical fidelity.
It boils down to developer skill and god knows there's plenty of that on the Sony 1st party side.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

This is insane if true, MK11 reached 5 millions on PS4 months ago already.

It's actually sitting at 7.6 million so far according to:

Account Suspended

 

[NEbeast]

So nothing. You have nothing to share. A pity. Oh well.. keep up the good fight buddy!

Why have you suddenly appeared after the xbox event? I guess you love to downplay Sony?

 

[VanSiriusGabriel]

It's actually sitting at 7.6 million so far according to:

Account Suspended

Even the curve is pretty stable. My hopes about it coming on PS Now next time are getting thin.

 

[SSfox]

It's actually sitting at 7.6 million so far according to:

Account Suspended

Wow i didn't realize this game sold so much, this is amazing

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Wow i didn't realize this game sold so much, this is amazing

It has close user score (8.2) to the overrated RDR2 (8.4). Word of mouth, youtubers, etc. Can't wait for a sequel! The ending is insanely exciting for the next one!

 

[Killer Sakoman]

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

If you don't understand what he says the I got two words for ya.....

 

[RicochetBullet]

Yes indeed. Days Gone is a cash cow. We all better anticipate the sequel to be announced in the near future, and it will be big.