Goalus
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Downgrade of Tsushima and TlouPart2 are "very low class" games according to your own standards though.
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Digital Foundry: All PS5 and Xbox Series X games that support 120fps
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Let me guess....
"120 fps is pointless. Waste of resources on SeX"
PD is happy to announce Gran Turismo 7 will have a 120 fps mode
"Yup. 120 fps kicks ass! Told ya"
"120 fps is pointless. Waste of resources on SeX"
PD is happy to announce Gran Turismo 7 will have a 120 fps mode
"Yup. 120 fps kicks ass! Told ya"
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MadchesterManc
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At least wait until there's enough games to make a comprehensive list, 8 ain't quite it 
Jigsaah
Gold Member
People who have experienced PC at 120 or more fps realize how silly this question is.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
It'd be pretty big for a racing game, any genre where input lag is a huge factor definitely can benefit from it. This is part of why most Sony titles can get away with not targeting it, because their games are less about fluid twitch mechanics and more about immersion in open worlds and narrative-driven gameplay. I'd also say they've been doing a lot of stuff where it's more about how you prepare for a fight than how well you fight it (HZD, Days Gone, TLOU II, maybe others I'm not thinking of). For me that level of strategic depth adds something to a gameplay experience that can make up for losing the more twitch/fluidity type gameplay. I'm hoping a PS5 means games can handle both but sometimes the work arounds for problems create more interesting products, it makes me think of how before CGI a lot of horror movies tried to hide the big bad as much as possible and it actually made it scarier often. Similarly I think the deliberate, more strategic combat of some of their games is due to things like framerate/input lag limitations. That said I think I'm beyond continuing to accept 30FPS from most games because of how spoiled PC gaming has made me.
hyperbertha
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Craig at 120 fps is still Craig.
Dolomite
Member
....you took that article personally huh?
120 may be unnecessary for you and yours. Me and mine want every bell and whistle
sendit
Member
That's most likely the case with these new consoles as well. However, the cost difference !=.
oldergamer
Member
its funny that your avatar is crying. says much about yourself?
Shhh no tears... only clouds now
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Abear21
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We went from 30 to 120 real quick. Not actually, took 7 years, god damn this gen lasted way too long.
Why not just go for 4K 60, now they are targeting 120 and 1440? I don’t get this obsession with frames higher than the eye can see, but I haven’t had the pleasure so I’ll just nod and agree!
Why not just go for 4K 60, now they are targeting 120 and 1440? I don’t get this obsession with frames higher than the eye can see, but I haven’t had the pleasure so I’ll just nod and agree!
BlueXImpulse
Banned
You got me!
Handy Fake
Member
Wasn't GT too? Or did I imagine that?
If you can see frames, there's a problem. The more frames there are, the more natural it looks, and that's before you take into account reaction times.
I'm a resolution guy, personally. I can see why people are excited though.
Gamerguy84
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We havent seen a gen where we get 60fps. MS wants to go straight 120.
Ill take 60 all day and better graphics.
Ill take 60 all day and better graphics.
MisterXDTV
Member
So basically Xbox One titles patched... Nice try DF, always on MS payroll
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Explosive Zombie
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People keep talking about how most people can't take advantage of 120 frames per second but from my understanding it doesn't necessarily cost much to own a display the outputs at a 120 hz refresh rate. I got one on a deal that was under 300.
Chittagong
Gold Member
My next TV has a single HDMI 2.1 jack. Pretty clear Xbox SeX is getting it.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
It probably is unnecessary for you. PS fans tend to play mostly single player cinematic games with not that much gameplay, therefore performance isn't as important as graphics.
PC and Xbox fans tend to be more interested in games with great gameplay and multiplayer games, therefore performance is more important than graphics.
Gamerasi
Member
As the owner of the LG B7, it makes 120 fps difference. Especially as someone who has played Gears 5 for days, I can confirm this.
I'm use gamepad.
DaleinCalgary
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If this is true wtf are we talking about this at all...
Freeman
Banned
I'm not saying it doesn't make a diference, I didn't even try it. I was wondering if it makes as much of a diference as when using a M&K.
It's also not a matter of only making a diference, it's a matter of being worth the effort to render twice as many frames and the compromises that come with it.
Going beyond 60fps on consoles seems like overkill for a AAA game that should be trying to get as much as possible out of the hardware. I get indie and lower budget games going for 120fps since they don't even have the resources to add all the details that 30fps or 60fps would allow.
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DaleinCalgary
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Get a LG and you will get 4!
hyperbertha
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Vast majority of '120 hz' tvs are Black frame insertion tvs that don't really give you 120 frames. Only true 120 hz tvs can give fps benefits.
J_Gamer.exe
Member
So of the games there what is actually also on PS5? Don't say the dolpin one as we know if dirt 5 can hit 120fps then that 2d game could, in reality.
MS pushing options for 120fps is great but hardly worth comparison against some exclusive to them is it. This seems a pretty sad effort by DF.
I'm sure the Digital Foundry games comparison list of games actually running on real hardware will follow this article....
MS pushing options for 120fps is great but hardly worth comparison against some exclusive to them is it. This seems a pretty sad effort by DF.
I'm sure the Digital Foundry games comparison list of games actually running on real hardware will follow this article....
Explosive Zombie
Banned
How would one tell the difference
Nemesis Prime
Member
You couldn’t get any more boomer than this
oldergamer
Member
A lot of angry sony fans in this thread for DF just listing readily available information
MisterXDTV
Member
You don't need HDMI 2.1 to play @ 1080p/120fps...
You are not getting 4K 120fps anyway
J_Gamer.exe
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Whats not surprising? Dirt 5 on both it has it. Clearly PS5 can do it. Half the games there arent even on PS5.
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Trogdor1123
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Liking this trend of higher fps games! Keep it up devs!
Trogdor1123
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Confirmed! Ps5 has no games!
WELL LOOK AT THE BIG BRAIN ON BRAD.. SOUNDS LIKE A PURE PLAYSTATION FANBOY. LMAO
geordiemp
Member
Article is a bit premature, most games have not given their frame rates and resolutions YET.
There will be 100s of games that are 120 hz on ps5 and xsx, there are allot of 2D indie games / some racing games.
How did Tetris not make the list
It is only news worthy now before game makers publish the game details.
There will be 100s of games that are 120 hz on ps5 and xsx, there are allot of 2D indie games / some racing games.
How did Tetris not make the list
It is only news worthy now before game makers publish the game details.
VideodromeX
Member
The list for xsx will grow big over time and there will be another list of true 4k vs 4k fake where XSX will also have more games 4k native.
Chittagong
Gold Member
wait, what - really?
MisterXDTV
Member
Yes, HDMI 2.1 is required for 4K/120 but no game will ever achieve that on these consoles
For 1080p/120 HDMI 2.0 is more than enough. I think even HDMI 1.4 could be enough for 1080p/120
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oldergamer
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its only unnecessary if you don't have the power to achieve that performance level
I see people who haven't yet learned their lesson
That can easily be achieved by taking a 4K 60fps PS4 Pro \ Xbox One X game like the NBA 2K games & letting them run at 120fps.
That can easily be achieved by taking a 4K 60fps PS4 Pro \ Xbox One X game like the NBA 2K games & letting them run at 120fps.
IbelieveInGenerations
Banned
Wich the Series X also dont, unless You are talking about Indie game, 2d games or game that needed to suffer strong restrictions in the First place.
Im not trying to bash Xbox, Im Just being realistic here. Look at the games graphics. Look at Gears 5, It runs 60fps on Xbox one wich is weaker than base PS4 for Gods sake, tons of restrictions to achieve that. Of course the nextgen version Will double the fps Just as PS4 did for TLOUS and PS5 Will do in many titles released on PS4.
NEXTGEN consoles have Power to Double the fps count, in the exact same proportion. It happens that Gears 5 was extremely restricted on the technical level to make It run at 60fps on a 1.3tf hardware, so thats why You got 120fps on Series X but the increase follows.the same proportion as every other old gen title running on the New hardware.
The rest is games with low budget with low ambition, some of them is even laughable like the 2d with fishes.
So I ask You: whats the merit? Whats so impressive about It?
I Will refrain from making comments about Halo multiplayer tho. That sounds indeed Very Nice, but Craig didnt give us a good impression tho
MasterCornholio
Member
To be fair I haven't seen next gen games run at 120FPs on either system yet. However simple looking games? That can be done on both systems.
TheCrimsnFuckr
Member
120FPS on a console is insane and I cannot wait to try it (even though I will need to downscale to either 1440p or 1080p to experience it lol) and while I doubt it will often be used, I still find it pretty cool especially as more TVs support 4k120