Can some expert explain to me in leyman words why series 3000 is so big and hot and power hungry?
Isn't the power jump the usual 30% of every new gpu series? Is it caused by the new improved rtx?
Yooo.
You have way way too much faith in Big Navi; 20 percent performance gain over the 2080TI.?
Nada, my prediction it only just beats the 2080ti and doesnt even get within spitting distance of the RTX 3080.
AMD best chip will be fighting with the RTX 3070, hopefully they price it right so the 3070 drops in price.
Can some expert explain to me in leyman words why series 3000 is so big and hot and power hungry?
Isn't the power jump the usual 30% of every new gpu series? Is it caused by the new improved rtx?
If they're doubling up the number of CUs, as rumoured, then a 50% performance increase would be very disappointing. We also have this early VR benchmark showing *something* substantially beating an (IIRC) overclocked 2080 TiYooo.
You have way way too much faith in Big Navi; 20 percent performance gain over the 2080TI.?
Nada, my prediction it only just beats the 2080ti and doesnt even get within spitting distance of the RTX 3080.
AMD best chip will be fighting with the RTX 3070, hopefully they price it right so the 3070 drops in price.
Will wait for the TI/Super with 20GB vram in another 6 months.
I mean, what games now needs a 3080?
This makes so sense. are you saying that if Navi is good, you'll get Ampere (3080)?Unless RDNA 2 (Navi2x) can match rasterization performance and be somewhat close enough Ray tracing performance, ill be getting a 3080.
Just don't like the idea of the power/heat this thing will draw and generate. (Not a deal breaker though).
This makes so sense. are you saying that if Navi is good, you'll get Ampere (3080)?
This makes no sense. are you saying that if Navi is good, you'll get Ampere (3080)?
I think he is saying unless Big Navi is on par with (roughly) or beats 3080, then he will buy a 3080 instead (assuming similar prices).
Oh sorry. My mistake. I read it wrong.Other way around. I'm tempted to go RDNA 2 if it's good, however at this rate I'm planning to get the 3080.
No wonder it's fucking huge
Yooo.
You have way way too much faith in Big Navi; 20 percent performance gain over the 2080TI.?
Nada, my prediction it only just beats the 2080ti and doesnt even get within spitting distance of the RTX 3080.
AMD best chip will be fighting with the RTX 3070, hopefully they price it right so the 3070 drops in price.
Samsung 8nm and Big Navi on TSMC's superior 7nm are to blame for Nvidia's woes.
This is Fermi 2.0
What? Are you insider?What if I told you it was close to 20-30% better than a 2080ti with higher scalable clocks? Much better efficiency as well and a regular sized card?
What? Are you insider?
Damn if so, i took a big punt in Nvidia stocks, expecting ampere to crush all sales as PCMR are hungry to upgrade
What if I told you it was close to 20-30% better than a 2080ti with higher scalable clocks? Much better efficiency as well and a regular sized card?
At a kind price that rivals the 3070 but offers much better performance?
I never understood the size of graphic cards. You have the series X system-on-a-chip which packs a CPU, 12TF GPU and media encoders on one square of silicon the size of a stamp; so why are these so huge?!?
I don't see it being over $900.
I never understood the size of graphic cards. You have the series X system-on-a-chip which packs a CPU, 12TF GPU and media encoders on one square of silicon the size of a stamp; so why are these so huge, why don't manufactures make 'system-on-a-chip' PCs?
Well it does take up 3 slots so there is some perspective difference there. Still huge thoughDat size is too big, makes no sense....
is there something off with the angle? perspectives?
Of all imaginable irrelevant metrics, this one is outstanding.2 years after the 2080 Ti
We are expecting the 3070FE to be ~600
You mean like laptops?
And small systems?
The thing labeled as A, is the whole computer actually.
They have to be able to dissipate 300W+ of heat, which is basically the output of an entire console, or more.I never understood the size of graphic cards. You have the series X system-on-a-chip which packs a CPU, 12TF GPU and media encoders on one square of silicon the size of a stamp; so why are these so huge?!?
Well the SoC is just the SoC but you still have the VRAM and voltage regulators and things like that. On a graphics card you have to have a cooling block and fan. With a console you can split that up, specifically design for it or combine things like the RAM, cooling block and fans. On a graphics card you can't.I never understood the size of graphic cards. You have the series X system-on-a-chip which packs a CPU, 12TF GPU and media encoders on one square of silicon the size of a stamp; so why are these so huge?!?
Can some expert explain to me in leyman words why series 3000 is so big and hot and power hungry?
Isn't the power jump the usual 30% of every new gpu series? Is it caused by the new improved rtx?
at those leaked prices they are not going to crush anything. It's going to push people to buy consoles and hold off on upgrading till later next year when more AIB's and possibly a refresh happen on TSMC'S new refined process.
phew at least you no inside info.
going to let my nvda run until sep1.
but yes samsung 8nm seems worse, at least thats the results from their exynos soc.
also for $800, if the 3080 is as rumored 20-25% better than 2080ti, i think thats a win.
making it 50% faster than 1080ti. a lot of pcmr wants to upgrade from their 10 series gtx
I was talking about Big NAVI. The biggest sku will be trying to aim to beat 2080ti performance. So pricing i am expecting it to be no more the $900 on the high side or watercooled sku.
phew at least you no inside info.
going to let my nvda run until sep1.
but yes samsung 8nm seems worse, at least thats the results from their exynos soc.
also for $800, if the 3080 is as rumored 20-25% better than 2080ti, i think thats a win.
making it 50% faster than 1080ti. a lot of pcmr wants to upgrade from their 10 series gtx
Unless you think Big NAVI is going to be a RTX 3080+ competitor.
It would have to be priced at or around the RTX 3070 right.
An $800 rtx 3080 that is 30% faster is really a win, I don't know what people expecting its just a reality nowadays. We should expect much better RT performance too
Are they really that worried about AMD?This is a guess, but I suspect that nVidia are just pushing these chips to places they really don't want to go so they can have a high end SKU with a performance level that's sufficiently ahead of the top end AMD card - even if it means using 3x8-Pin aux power jacks and comedy sized coolers to do it.
If my theory is correct, I also suspect the high-end nVidia cards are going to have close to zero overclock headroom because they are already being pushed pretty much as far as they will go just to meet the published specs.
Rumored prices:
NVIDIA RTX 3000 Series Rumored Pricing: RTX 3090 for $1399, RTX 3080 for $799, RTX 3070 for $599 and RTX 3060 for $399
Okay before I begin, I want to make something very clear: pricing of upcoming cards is something that can change at the very last hour before launch so take *any* rumors about pricing - including this one - with a huge grain of salt. That said, the source in question has just leaked the very...wccftech.com
3060 -399$
3070 - 599$
3080 - 799$
3090 - 1399$
The gap between 3080 and 3090 is to big IMO, if the prices are indeed true I think NV will eventually fill the gap with with 3080Ti/Super.
No wonder it's fucking huge
I know why Nvidia wants to drop a monster GPU, with the new consoles coming around and what not ,but this confuses me. With a die shrink to 7nm and all this time for architectural improvements, I would think they could have gotten very large gains while also keeping power/thermals reasonable and not having to resort to FX5900 levels of nonsense.