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I can see Raytracing Reflections and probably Global Illuminattion too, and I don't know about about Shadow RT.
But isn't the game supposed to have Shadows RT, my great doubt is, I can clearly see RT Reflections and almost Global Illuminattion too. And to think the game would have 3 types of RT is crazy I think, because is so heavy.
What do you guys think ?

correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure environments in demon's souls were all static, so there's no need to implement an in-depth GI solution as most lighting can be baked. RT shadows look fantastic though, love that self shadowing and occlusion

 

[kyliethicc]

Sweet. I need to figure out how to get on these email lists.

Didn't get any other killer info, like how long the included HDMI cable is or...?

3 inches. They had to cut costs somewhere.

 

[Thirty7ven]

I gave my opinion about the PS5 marketing. You gave your opinion of me. Thanks again for the lesson, Mr. Strawman.

You proposed the people running the marketing might be imbeciles and that their strategy is bad.

I didn’t give you my opinion of your person, I don’t know you, it was my opinion on the quality of your judgement and to me it’s poor. You say your boss doesn’t think so(appeal to authority)and I had to put that in context.

 

[DaGwaphics]

3 inches. They had to cut costs somewhere.

Damn. 6 inches seems like the bare minimum, anything less is useless I'd say.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Bare with me... how is possible in PlayStation anniversary no tweet from PlayStation themselves about it? I think today they will show some games... burn me in the fire if they don’t..

Games like this?

 

[Apollo Helios]

People have been saying that for a while now. It's getting pretty tiring.

play some games, like actually play the games in your backlog, we are all gamers here (hopefully) so I'm sure there are tons of games on your backlog. Like I started playing AC Odyssey where I left of at 65 hrs and now I'm at 122 hrs which I really did not see coming, I didn't even started the Season Pass stuff and its been fun, I almost forgot the eventual PS5 event and I'm not tired of drip feed announcements anymore.

 

[Bojanglez]

But is it not supposed to be 10 % less pixels I was told by the Terrafloppies ?

/s

What you are clearly not factoring in is that the XSX will actually be rendering 10% higher resolution than 4K and supersampling down. It will be using its colossal advantage to suppress its own awesomeness.

/S

 

[thebigmanjosh]

I’m not in the games industry (Thank god. Must be a nightmare) but those examples send a chill down my spine. In a previous job I worked on a strategy that involved a major university. We had to get them to sign off on some copy about the university’s international focus. 500 words or so. Nothing much. Took two months to get cleared, after about six rewrites, and after a good dozen people had looked at the bloody thing.

Marketing. Why get one person to do it, when forty eight will do just as well.

I'm not either but I hear enough to make me hesitate about ever making a move to the industry (as much fun as it would be).

Imagine working with someone like Disney to get their game on the back of your console box as a make-good or value-add to leverage a separate ask, then finding out you can't put their game anywhere without removing another one because Disney won't let anything related to their game sit next to a "M" rated game.

Now think about putting together a 60+ minute event to showcase your new console and balancing first- and third-party games and their separate needs, launch timelines, etc., while holding enough back to keep excitement through launch.

 

[MasterCornholio]

play some games, like actually play the games in your backlog, we are all gamers here (hopefully) so I'm sure there are tons of games on your backlog. Like I started playing AC Odyssey where I left of at 65 hrs and now I'm at 122 hrs which I really did not see coming, I didn't even started the Season Pass stuff and its been fun, I almost forgot the eventual PS5 event and I'm not tired of drip feed announcements anymore.

I was playing BL3 but then the game decided to break itself. I can't get it past the sign in screen no matter what I do. So I went back to playing BL2.

 

[zaitsu]

 

[jimbojim]

but but but................. fud gavin

Just googled that post and saw that he was banned for that. LOL

 

[zaitsu]

Just googled that post and saw that he was banned for that. LOL

Thanks god for moderation.

Meanwhile Timdog, Dealer celebrating

 

[ErRor88]

This is interesting... SFS is the real surprise.

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm not either but I hear enough to make me hesitate about ever making a move to the industry (as much fun as it would be).

Imagine working with someone like Disney to get their game on the back of your console box as a make-good or value-add to leverage a separate ask, then finding out you can't put their game anywhere without removing another one because Disney won't let anything related to their game sit next to a "M" rated game.

Now think about putting together a 60+ minute event to showcase your new console and balancing first- and third-party games and their separate needs, launch timelines, etc., while holding enough back to keep excitement through launch.

I may not work in the games industry, but I know how much of a nightmare Disney are to work with.

And everything you say is the reason why I’ve never pursued a job in the games industry. That, and it doesn’t really pay all that well for the work demanded out of you.

I also love playing games. Running corporate comms or PR for a company who makes them would probably destroy that love pretty quickly.

 

[Great Hair]

Digital Foundry Gears 5 video

Those textures... 300% zoom.

Spoiler

need ma eyes checked lol
wrong console

 

[alstrike]

Tom Warren is my favorite warrior. He's like Timdog but with proper grammar:

I just don't get The Verge, that place has amazing people like Dieter Bohn and Becca Farsace but they also have this fucking idiot on the payroll...

 

[zaitsu]

Those textures... 300% zoom.

But its 120Hz!

Im a graphic whore i always prefer better graphic less frames.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Those textures... 300% zoom.

Hey it's Toads cousin.

 

[kyliethicc]

I just don't get The Verge, that place has amazing people like Dieter Bohn and Becca Farsace but they also have this fucking idiot on the payroll...

Vox media man. You ever see the Verge's infamous PC build video?

 

[FunkMiller]

Those textures... 300% zoom.

Oh my god! It’s Gary! Craig’s brother!

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

Games like this?

Damn you SOONY......

 

[Ptarmiganx2]

XBox had one of their best ever marketing weeks and they still trended behind Playstation...

Right now they have no reason to not wait until they're completely ready

How is it a great marketing week? They showed a gimped mid/low tier current gen piece of hardware that will struggle with cross-gen games and be obsolete in a year. Their biggest issue is lack of software, what have they shown to remedy that?

 

[BGs]

BGs

Do not tempt me son of the devil.

How long is the wait for me ...

 

[zaitsu]

Oh my god! It’s Gary! Craig’s brother!

Fucking Gary.
Fuck you Gary.

Do not tempt me son of the devil.

How long is the wait for me ...

It shouldn’t be so long.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Damn you SOONY......

Just more ASS from them.

 

[DeadOblivion78]

You're lucky that VFX dude is banned atm. Or he would sort you right out!

Why did he get banned? Didn't notice that at all.

 

[FunkMiller]

Damn you SOONY......

I can imagine the social media team giggling every time they click the tweet button.

 

[SlimySnake]

They are mentioning Tom tweets.

Utterly shameful.

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

I can imagine the social media team giggling every time they click the tweet button.

No doubt... the cockteasers playing with us all..

 

[3liteDragon]

Just googled that post and saw that he was banned for that. LOL

Strange that he suddenly went silent here.

 

[BGs]

Fucking Gary.
Fuck you Gary.

It shouldn’t be so long.

 

[Darklor01]

I can imagine the social media team giggling every time they click the tweet button.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I can imagine the social media team giggling every time they click the tweet button.

They are working hard on the next tweet as we speak.

 

[Dave_at_Home]

ah yess good thing someone's not too careful on his trigger posting while crying wolf over Sony fans LOL

But to the point, I for one, am really happy we got to that point where some games can really look like Pixar CGI movies, and this happened not only in my lifetime but also when I'm young! I can not fathom what PS6 or PS7 can achieve.

Kind of difficult to predict where tech by that time is going, but I could see PS6 utilizing 3D stacking and muti-chip module hardware. Maybe we'll move beyond silicon? Not to mention it will certainly capable of full scene path tracing.

 

[Tiago07]

correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure environments in demon's souls were all static, so there's no need to implement an in-depth GI solution as most lighting can be baked. RT shadows look fantastic though, love that self shadowing and occlusion

I don't know the answer for this too (if the scenario is totally static) , but you have pointed a good point, and I didn't think on this and yes if we consider this, PS5 doesn't need to do the work for use the Real Time RT for this.

But everything is amazing, the Illuminattion, the reflections, the enviroment...
But now you make me more realible kkkkkkkk, because that idea of 3 forms of RT in the game and 4K, didn't join on my head kkkkkkkk thank you.

 

[zaitsu]

Utterly shameful.

To be honest its good.
Its put pressure on pricing.

 

[Great Hair]

Pricing alone ensures this.

Isn´t the XSS chip a failed XSX SoC? If on a wafer of XSX chips:

over 90% are XSX compatible
8% are good enough for XSS
2% are garbage ...

Wouldnt MS sell, produce more XSX chips? than relying on "failed ones" XSX SoC (bad yield), to be able to repurpose (as XSS "SoC")? Or are both SoC completely independent of each other, which would rise the BOM overall?
edit:

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caly-technologies.com

300mm wafer, 20x20mm (400mm2, XSX SoC is 360mm2, calc. only does by 2 increments, 18, 20, 22).

13,347 XSX chips "potentially" per 300mm wafer.

 

[zaitsu]

Isn´t the XSS chip a failed XSX SoC? If on a wafer of XSX chips:

over 90% are XSX compatible
8% are good enough for XSS
2% are garbage ...

Wouldnt MS sell, produce more XSX chips? than relying on "failed ones" XSX SoC (bad yield), to be able to repurpose (as XSS "SoC")? Or are both SoC completely independent of each other, which would rise the BOM overall?

Imagine thinking something like this.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

but but but................. fud gavin

Why the fuck would he put a console in his bedroom? Is he gonna watch porn on it and jerkoff before sleep? He is better then with a PS5, at least there is a heptic feed back.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

Oh my god! It’s Gary! Craig’s brother!

All that beautiful VRS!

 

[DaGwaphics]

All that beautiful VRS!

Gears 5 was in the books long before that was a thing. I doubt they did a full rewrite. LOL

There's a big difference between Gears 5 single player and what the multi-player looks like.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Marketing is all MS has been doing since the beggining of this gen. They've consistently been putting more effort into PR than producing games. Non-stop.

Those aren't mutually exclusive things. If the games aren't ready well they really don't have much of a choice.

 

[alstrike]

Vox media man. You ever see the Verge's infamous PC build video?

Who could ever forget that piece of history...

 

[ArcaneNLSC]

How much next gen xbox gaming will cost us in Australia and New Zealand

FYI this is higher than what the Xbox One X cost at release.

The Xbox One X will cost $649 in Australia while the US will pay $499

 

[Great Hair]

Imagine thinking something like this.

care to explain? what is wrong with the thought process?

 

[devilNprada]

Games like this?

Too bad this isn't 4... I can do an infininate combo...

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Isn´t the XSS chip a failed XSX SoC? If on a wafer of XSX chips:

over 90% are XSX compatible
8% are good enough for XSS
2% are garbage ...

Wouldnt MS sell, produce more XSX chips? than relying on "failed ones" XSX SoC (bad yield), to be able to repurpose (as XSS "SoC")? Or are both SoC completely independent of each other, which would rise the BOM overall?
edit:

Xoilac TV Thiên Đường Bóng Đá Trực Tiếp Xoilac 90P

Xoilac - Thiên đường bóng đá trực tuyến. Hãy cùng chúng tôi khám phá thêm về sự chuyên nghiệp và tận tâm trong dịch vụ chăm sóc khách hàng mà trang mang lại!

caly-technologies.com

300mm wafer, 20x20mm (400mm2, XSX SoC is 360mm2, calc. only does by 2 increments, 18, 20, 22).

13,347 XSX chips "potentially" per 300mm wafer.

No, it is separate SoC of around 190mm^2 per Videocardz/_Rogame

 

[Imtjnotu]

yall see this shit from ign

 

[Jaxx_377]

Could Sony be waiting to drop a commercial during the NFL Season Opener announcing something?
I mean it would be a normal spot for a commercial anyway and if they already had something planned they could just wait at this point. Just a guess while we wait

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

care to explain? what is wrong with the thought process?

Basically it would be a very wasteful/inefficient/expensive way of doing it. There are more specific reasons in this case around the XSX SoC being designed for use in Azure too.