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TLOU 2 fell off the PS Store Top 20 charts for September

ZZZZ

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Yes every critic is a shill.... jesus imagine thinking this lol
Imagine a difference of over 10 ratings between the people that got it very early against the people that didn't, probably never happened in the history of this industry.
 

Woggleman

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It was the game they wanted to make and I am glad they made it though everybody can rest easy because I am sure the next ND game will be some safe and soulless moneymaker and the evil woke gamers will be defeated.
 
I don't like this 'woke' direction in games. XBox too with Tell Me Why.

What's even worse is betrayal by a game developer that you invested in a LONG time ago.

The franchise I'm talking about is The Longest Journey-->Dreamfall-->Dreamfall Chapters. The first 2 games were mild woke with the 'big bad corporation doing nefarious things', but that was the extent of it. Then in Dreamfall: Chapters, it literally had me playing a super-woke antifa type spying on Boogaloo Boys. It was so obvious and nauseating I quit immediately.
 

Gamerguy84

Member
Wonder if the PS5 will run it 60fps? I havent broken the seal on my copy yet. Waiting on PS5 if I can get a launch unit.
 

Maxwell Jacob Friedman

leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Imagine a difference of over 10 ratings between the people that got it very early against the people that didn't, probably never happened in the history of this industry.
I mean tlou p2 had more reviews than the original game, 22 more reviews to be exact and it still scored extremely well and didnt dip far down.
 

Keihart

Member
Can't help but wonder what ND was thinking with this game. Did they not realize relying entirely on subverting expectations and alienating fans would cripple long term sales? Were they only concerned with impulse buys and preorders? Or did they not even care about sales, since their unique message about revenge being bad just had to be told at any cost.
I sure hope AAA devs wouldn't care as much about sales when designing their games, it's not like we are in some shortage of focus test designed games like the ones ubisoft and EA like to pump out.
I would surely prefer more TLoU2, Death Stranding and TLG than Assasin's Creeds, Far Crys and Destiny.
 

Dorohedoro

Member
I love it but it won't win any awards. They don't want that kind of backlash. It might get a few nominations but if it wins any the gamergaters will lose their minds.
Oh but it will, maybe even GOTY. And when/if it does, popcorn.gif.

Gonna be hard to tell the difference between GAF and Ree. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

But I could see them not having the balls and giving it to a safer pick. I'm gonna projectile vomit if it's Animal Crossing tho.
 
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ZZZZ

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I mean tlou p2 had more reviews than the original game, 22 more reviews to be exact and it still scored extremely well and didnt dip far down.
?? That wasn't even the point of the conversation.

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Oh but it will, maybe even GOTY. And when/if it does, popcorn.gif.

Gonna be hard to tell the difference between GAF and Ree. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

But I could see them not having the balls and giving it to a safer pick. I'm gonna projectile vomit if it's Animal Crossing tho.

I'll actually be impressed if Geoff doesn't bend over to his REEE crowd, that forum acts like that game is the best thing in the history of mankind.
 

Woggleman

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I sure hope AAA devs wouldn't care as much about sales when designing their games, it's not like we are in some shortage of focus test designed games like the ones ubisoft and EA like to pump out.
I would surely prefer more TLoU2, Death Stranding and TLG than Assasin's Creeds, Far Crys and Destiny.
We will get more of the Latter and more like GTA V where people spend a mint on microtransactions and this doesn't generate half as much outrage as a so called woke game.
 

Maxwell Jacob Friedman

leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
?? That wasn't even the point of the conversation.

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I'll actually be impressed if Geoff doesn't bend over to his REEE crowd, that forum acts like that game is the best thing in the history of mankind.
Well
Which people got it early and didnt, you mean to tell me your belief is that out of those 120 + reviews the majority of them are shills....?
 

ZZZZ

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Well
Which people got it early and didnt, you mean to tell me your belief is that out of those 120 + reviews the majority of them are shills....?
I pointed out the difference in ratings were probably the biggest in the history of the industry between the reviewers that got it early and the ones that didn't, and that if it had another 60 reviewers of the latter, the ratings would probably be in the 80's, but most of the industry was in on it, trying to push the agenda, so 93 it is.
 
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman

leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
I pointed out the difference in ratings were probably the biggest in the history of the industry between the reviewers that got it early and the ones that didn't, and that if it had another 60 reviewers of the latter, the ratings would probably be in the 80's, but most of the industry was in on it, trying to push the agenda, so 93 it is.
Show me the ones that got it early and ones that didnt, I want to see reviews and numbers.
 

ksdixon

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I swear to god if a brilliant gameplay engine falls by the wayside for some fart-sniffing sjw to get his rocks off about how his masterpiece story totally subverted our expectations... i'm going to blow a fuse.
 

ZZZZ

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Show me the ones that got it early and ones that didnt, I want to see reviews and numbers.
Metacritic>Reviews>By date, everyone that released their reviews by 12/13th of June is the ones that got a very early copy.
 
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ZZZZ

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How did other Sony games perform in their 3rd month? God of War, Spiderman, Uncharted 4, Horizon etc.?
Better, even though The Last of Us 2 sold way more in the first week, both God of War and Spiderman surpassed the numbers of players by a large margin, and the difference is only increasing as time passes.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
You are comparing a linear (abysmal) story game to open world/semi-open world games with side quests, optional areas, hidden secrets, endgame content and good story.

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You didn't bother reading the article, neither did the person who made this picture.


You're comparing platinum trophies.

The article is about finishing the story.
 

Ten_Fold

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Word of mouth spreads OP, I have a friend who doesn’t following gaming news an was super excited for the second game, he was pissed that I didn’t say anything. Anyways the game should’ve had longer legs, I was thinking it was gonna be at the top for 6 months due to lack of releases this year.
 

DForce

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I pointed out the difference in ratings were probably the biggest in the history of the industry between the reviewers that got it early and the ones that didn't, and that if it had another 60 reviewers of the latter, the ratings would probably be in the 80's, but most of the industry was in on it, trying to push the agenda, so 93 it is.
You guys try so hard to push conspiracy theories.


People can't accept the fact that people enjoyed the game. There's no agenda that made people give the game a good score. It's just a mere excuse because people don't feel the same way as they do about the game.
 

Woggleman

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Maybe many people just liked the game. Why is there always some big conspiracy anytime a reviewer likes a game that you don't? I truly hate this era where everything becomes some sort of culture war.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
Better, even though The Last of Us 2 sold way more in the first week, both God of War and Spiderman surpassed the numbers of players by a large margin, and the difference is only increasing as time passes.

You have to be honest. lol

God of War was on sale in June and July.

Spider-Man bundle was flying off the shelves and it was also during Black Friday.


We have to see how The Last of Us Part II performs on PSN next month.
 
Seriously, people need to finally move on from this game already. We get it. You hated it. There are literally hundreds of other games out there to experience that might be more suited to your preferences. Further proof that a lot of gamers in this generation are entitled and spoiled. Wah, that story didn’t grip me or get me fully immersed, she’s too buff and the writing is a little weird.....1/10.
 
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Elysion

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Better, even though The Last of Us 2 sold way more in the first week, both God of War and Spiderman surpassed the numbers of players by a large margin, and the difference is only increasing as time passes.

Before it launched I was certain that TLoU2 would be Sony’s most successful game ever; I’m sure many others thought the same. But if sales are really that front-loaded it might actually end up behind most of their other big games this gen. I’m curious where it ends up.

Though I wonder, is this the first time a game has seen such a backlash because of its story? I know Mass Effect 3 got some shit for its bizarre ending, but that didn’t really have an effect on the rest of the game (and Bioware actually changed the ending in response). But I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a negative reaction for the story of any other game. Maybe Final Fantasy 15, but that was more because the story felt incomplete, not because it was bad.

The reaction is the total opposite of the first game, whose writing and characters were almost universally acclaimed, by fans and critics alike.
 

Kenpachii

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You think Assassins Creed will win gaming awards this year.....have you seen the game....?

Yea i must agree with this, the game looks like trash and frankly that's from somebody that loved origin and odyssey and couldn't wait on the next one.

Anyway on the topic itself.

not sure why this is surprising tho, the game is a cracker basically between actual games.
 
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman

leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Yea i must agree with this, the game looks like trash and frankly that's from somebody that loved origin and odyssey and couldn't wait on the next one.

Anyway not sure why this is surprising tho, the game is a cracker basically between actual games.
He clarified after he meant Animal Crossing, almost damn near gave me a heart attack
 

Woggleman

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We are living in some extremely polarizing times and anything remotely seen as woke will receive backlash from the gaming world which more than any other form of entertainment has many anti-sjw types. It's as simple as that. If this game came out in 2013 it would not be the culture war lightening rod it is now.
 

Maxwell Jacob Friedman

leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
We are living in some extremely polarizing times and anything remotely seen as woke will receive backlash from the gaming world which more than any other form of entertainment has many anti-sjw types. It's as simple as that. If this game came out in 2013 it would not be the culture war lightening rod it is now.
Yep the first game was controversial as well esp with its portrayal of women and no one cared back then. Now people care tooooo much and gloss over the first game and give it a pass
 

Woggleman

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Yep the first game was controversial as well esp with its portrayal of women and no one cared back then. Now people care tooooo much and gloss over the first game and give it a pass
As much as I love the game the SJWs in many ways created this atmosphere. They pushed and pushed and pushed and and people are pushing back. I don't think TLOU2 deserves that backlash but it is a casualty of the culture war that the woke in many ways started.
 

Maxwell Jacob Friedman

leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
As much as I love the game the SJWs in many ways created this atmosphere. They pushed and pushed and pushed and and people are pushing back. I don't think TLOU2 deserves that backlash but it is a casualty of the culture war that the woke in many ways started.
So true alot of backlash started though from fake rumors that were proven false but then people latched onto those and reported them as fact when they were not
 

Woggleman

Member
So true alot of backlash started though from fake rumors that were proven false but then people latched onto those and reported them as fact when they were not
This is true. People swear Abby is trans which is not true and that Neil Druckmann inserted himself into certain scenes which is also not true. Many of the games hardest haters really did act like the woke outrage mobs they claim to fighting against. Like I said in another thread eventually all we will end up with is soulless corporate cash grabs like whatever GTA V has turned into because people can't create anything without either being problematic and offensive to whatever group or woke propaganda.
 
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