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5/30/2018 -6/07/2018: 320k players

Days of Play
6/08/2018 - 6/16/2018: 480k players

6/19/2018 - 6/28/2018: 280k
6/29/2018 - 7/07/2018: 200k

Player account increased during Days of Play and fell by 200k the following week.

God of War was on sale again in July after Sony offered coupons on PSN.



Player count was 240k during this point


It was on sale again in August, which was as low as $35 on PSN.

God of War Receives Major Summer Sale Discount on PS4

The God of War sale price in Sony's Summer Sale has been reduced to just $34.99; a discount of 33%, one of the biggest sale reductions ever for the game.

www.vgr.com

Don't know When exactly the summer sale started, but compare July to August.

July: 770,000
August: 730,000
September 550,000


In 120 days, God of War went through 3 major discount promotions before Black Friday

And?
God of War had already surpassed TLOU2 before June even started, the sales after that just widen the gap that was already increasing.

 

[sol_bad]

Almost the entire industry was in on it, the Agenda was the goal here, just look at the reviews.
96 Metacritic rating 1 week early from shills, where people that didn't get the game 1 week early gave the game around a 85 Metacritic score, 30 critics were enough to bring it down to 93, if it had another 60 (non shills) this would probably end up in the 80's.

Lol
There is really that big of a difference between 96 and 86 rating? Get a grip jabroni.

 

[ZZZZ]

Lol
There is really that big of a difference between 96 and 86 rating? Get a grip jabroni.

You don't think there is a difference in the eyes of the gaming community between a 96 and a 86??

 

[StreetsofBeige]

And?
God of War had already surpassed TLOU2 before June even started, the sales after that just widen the gap that was already increasing.

I think you got to repeat yourself for the third time.

He doesn't seem to understand you are talking early non-promotional sales. He keeps bringing up deals and discounts months later.

 

[DForce]

And?
God of War had already surpassed TLOU2 before June even started, the sales after that just widen the gap that was already increasing.

You said it was increasing by a large margin.

Why didn't you take summer sales into consideration?

Did you miss the point?

 

[DForce]

I think you got to repeat yourself for the third time.

He doesn't seem to understand you are talking early non-promotional sales. He keeps bringing up deals and discounts months later.

No.

He said it's increasing by a large margin.


There's enough evidence that the player count increased by a lot based on promotion sales. You can't discredit this.

 

[sol_bad]

You don't think there is a difference in the eyes of the gaming community between a 96 and a 86??

Obviously there is to you.

 

[DForce]

Budget considered? The game performed as well as everyone expected? I see. Well, I'll ask again once we have more concrete numbers.

Unless you think the budget is 200m then I don't why you would think it's a complete bomb.

If the multiplayer is successful as the first (or even better) then that would mean it would be one of the most successful Sony IPs this generation.

I'm sure Uncharted made millions with their multiplayer and it was less popular that TLOU's Remastered version.

 

[ZZZZ]

You said it was increasing by a large margin.

Why didn't you take summer sales into consideration?

Did you miss the point?

God of War went from 4.95M players to 6M between 11-05-2018 to 30-05-2018 (19 days).
TLOU2 went from 5M players to 6M between 07-06-2020 to 08-08-2020 (30 days).

Yes, the gap was increasing by a large margin, the sales after that just helped.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Unless you think the budget is 200m then I don't why you would think it's a complete bomb.

If the multiplayer is successful as the first (or even better) then that would mean it would be one of the most successful Sony IPs this generation.

I'm sure Uncharted made millions with their multiplayer and it was less popular that TLOU's Remastered version.

Guess I'll have to wait until the official numbers are out. Seriously, this game not doing so hot could do wonders in setting ND free from the same kind of design they've been stuck to since the first Uncharted.

 

[Clover904]

Brilliant game. Of course mainstream wasn't ready for it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Guess I'll have to wait until the official numbers are out. Seriously, this game not doing so hot could do wonders in setting ND free from the same kind of design they've been stuck to since the first Uncharted.

Doubt it. The end of the game was left open. The story is not done yet. There will be a part 3.

 

[GametimeUK]

This game is gonna go down as a classic that wasn't understood in its time. can't wait for the cult following threads years later. TLOU2 is the gift that keeps on giving.

Surprised to see it out of the top 20.

 

[JimiNutz]

I enjoyed my first playthrough but haven't had any kind of urge to replay the game.
Not including MP was a mistake I think. That may have given the game some legs.

 

[DForce]

God of War went from 4.95M players to 6M between 11-05-2018 to 30-05-2018.
TLOU2 went from 5M players to 6M between 07-06-2020 to 08-08-2020.

Yes, the gap was increasing by a large margin, the sales after that just helped.

Yes, I'm aware of the player count.

I told you to take sales into consideration.

Player count is also not an indicator of how much better the game is doing in comparison to the other.

We know God of War had nearly 15 million players when the game had 10 million in sales, which took over a year to achieve.

 

[ZZZZ]

We know God of War had nearly 15 million players when the game had 10 million in sales, which took over a year to achieve.

This happens for every game, not just God of War.
The more time passes, the more people just buy it used/borrow/rent.

 

[Business]

The lack of multiplayer probably didn’t help either.

Personally I think the game is on a class of its own in many aspects but the story is certainly poorly written to the point I can see how it sours people, not only on this game but on the franchise.

That Druckmann tweet in the OP... the guy is not really a class act by trivializing mental health issues this way.

 

[DForce]

This happens for every game, not just God of War.
The more time passes, the more people just buy it used/borrow/rent.

So you don't know how well the game is doing in comparison?

You compared sales versus player count. Many things contribute to the player count. Sales matter because they contribute to player counts, multiple accounts, borrowing etc. This is why you compare actual sales numbers.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The lack of multiplayer probably didn’t help either.

Personally I think the game is on a class of its own in many aspects but the story is certainly poorly written to the point I can see how it sours people, not only on this game but on the franchise.

That Druckmann tweet in the OP... the guy is not really a class act by trivializing mental health issues this way.

I wonder what they'll do with that MP mode.

The more time passes, the more people will sell their game (if they got a disc). If MP releases, will it be a F2P? You need the actual game to play? Or a $30 add-on if you sold the game already?

 

[Bartski]

wow thanks man those Cuckmann shills almost tricked me into thinking this game was a commercial success

That Druckmann tweet in the OP... the guy is not really a class act by trivializing mental health issues this way.

right? What a total dickhead trivializing mental health issues of those poor helpless fans sending him death threats

 

[Business]

I wonder what they'll do with that MP mode.

The more time passes, the more people will sell their game (if they got a disc). If MP releases, will it be a F2P? You need the actual game to play? Or a $30 add-on if you sold the game already?

Maybe they wait to release it on PS5 so they can run it at 60fps without graphics compromises and so everyone plays the same version from day one? That could be one explanation for the delay. In which form they will release this I have no idea either.

 

[recma12]

Word of mouth was probably pretty terrible.

You are comparing a linear (abysmal) story game to open world/semi-open world games with side quests, optional areas, hidden secrets, endgame content and good story.

Yeah it probably was a lie by SJW journos but “completed” likely don’t mean “platinumed”.

I have beaten both and to get the TLOU 2 play requires a second run (for the upgrades) whereas the GoT plat can be easily obtained in a single run (and is probably the easiest play I ever obtained).

 

[treemk]

Lol
There is really that big of a difference between 96 and 86 rating? Get a grip jabroni.

The community at large will end up with their own rating on how they view the game, and it's won't include SJW bonus points.

 

[Business]

right? What a total dickhead trivializing mental health issues of those poor helpless fans sending him death threats

If you get death threats and you think it’s serious you go to police. His twitter reply is still uncalled for.

 

[Spukc]

GURLS ARE STOOOPID!!!

 

[turtlepowa]

"Don't be scared of therapy"
I hope he speaks from experience so that future games possibly won't suck.

 

[Redlancet]

Man, the last of us haters are the gitf that keeps giving, what a bunch of sorry losers xD

 

[J3nga]

TLOU2 is an aftermarket's bestseller.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Druckman simply killed one of the most valuable Sony franchise because of his ego, because it's his story and he had the right to kill it. Like if Miyamoto had killed Mario after the first opus.

 

[The Hamburglar]

TLOU multiplayer was top tier fun. It’s shit 2 doesn’t Have any.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

That's a different kind of misdirection because because putting explosion and actions scenes in a trailer out of sequence is to protect the chronological order of the plot. Nobody expects any movie trailer to show the whole plot from beginning to end in 30 seconds.

Joel being bait and switched in trailers would be like showing Arnold in Terminator movie ads thinking he's the main character, but turns out he's barely in the movie, or he's edited out and replaced with a different human or CGI terminator.

That's a BS misdirection on cast, in which if people are shown in a movie, they expect them to be there and not edited out and replaced with another character in the same scene.

I didn't say they showed things out of order, I said they literally digitally edited out elements of the film to keep them secret.

Anyone who thought Joel was the main character based off these ads wasn't watching them closely, again, try and time how often he's seen... do it.

What they did with Joel really isn't much different to something most movie trailers do, they splice footage to make it look like one character answers a question instead of another... literally every movie does this. If Joel hadn't been in the game at all I might get your complaints but he is in it, he's even in it a good deal

Spoiler

after he dies

. What's your actual problem? That he doesn't say the exact line of dialogue at that exact moment in the game? How long are you going to cling to this complaint in regards to the marketing, the only piece of marketing that even sort of suggested a larger role for Joel? At some point you need to critique media on its own merits and get past a piece of marketing, my man.

 

[xrnzaaas]

You are comparing a linear (abysmal) story game to open world/semi-open world games with side quests, optional areas, hidden secrets, endgame content and good story.

I think that by completion they meant finishing the game, not getting 100% trophies (and the platinum). And if you look at it like that then TLoU2 is higher - 58.8% of the players finished TLoU's story and 42% have finished Tsushima's.

 

[eyesabitdull]

I love this game, through and through - but I'm glad this game has disappeared into the background.

The fact that I haven't touched the game since completing it shows that ND, lead by Druckmann, really had their heads up their ass when they said that they had NO INTENTION of making the game "fun."

And they're right, the game isn't fun to play. I don't find joy playing the game, I feel constantly under duress, and by the end of it, I felt really emotionally drained.

Still, I loved the journey - although flawed - thanks to the gameplay that definitely improved upon it's predecessors mechanics.

But goddamn, ND, for the love of God never ever ever do a game like this again with ears closed tightly with your hands that you refuse to listen to anyone elses opinion. A lot of us loved the Uncharted games and the first TLOU because there was always a sense of warmth - even at the worse of times - throughout the narrative beats.

TLOU 2 was just sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, depressing, sad, sad, sad, ohwhatthefuck is happening, sad, sad, super fucking depressing, oh guitar playing moment which is also fucking sad, and oh here's a cute moment with a baby, andddd it's gone, back to being sad, depressing, fucking nihilism.

I don't ever want to play a game that has zero sense of hope like TLOU 2 again.

In fact, I hope they never return to this franchise ever again.

If the next game from ND isn't something more lighthearted, I'm just not going to bother.

All that talent, and they decide to make the least "fun" game known to mankind.

GTFO out here Druckmann.

 

[prinz_valium]

Truth is always in the grey areas.

1) TLOU2 wasn't trash but it wasn't a masterpiece or a generational game neither.

2) TLOU2 didn't flop in sales but it's very obvious that after a big launch on the back of its prequel it dropped hard because of word of mouth and sales slowed down to a crawl.

3) As time passes TLOU2 will be remembered more for the controversy that sorrounded it than its quality because both its fan and its haters blown it extremely out of proportion.

What a great post.

 

[DJT123]

Momentum killer for a huge IP at the very least. This is what happens when otherwise talented people disappear up their own ass.

 

[ZZZZ]

So you don't know how well the game is doing in comparison?

You compared sales versus player count. Many things contribute to the player count. Sales matter because they contribute to player counts, multiple accounts, borrowing etc. This is why you compare actual sales numbers.

Yeah man, you are right.
God of War in the same time frame has millions of borrowed games while TLOU2 are all sales, game is going to sell more than God of War and Spiderman, all hail Neil Cuckman.

 

[prinz_valium]

Marvel's Spider-Man US PSN sales ranking:
September #1
October #6 (against a new COD, RDR, AC, BF, NBA2K, FIFA)
November #9
December #8
Full Year #8

The Last of Us US PSN sales ranking:
June #1
July #5 (against GoT and old games)
August #out of top 20

 

[sol_bad]

The community at large will end up with their own rating on how they view the game, and it's won't include SJW bonus points.

The community at large is fine with TLOU2. NeoGAF itself is primarily negative though.

 

[turtlepowa]

Marvel's Spider-Man US PSN sales ranking:
September #1
October #6 (against a new COD, RDR, AC, BF, NBA2K, FIFA)
November #9
December #8
Full Year #8

The Last of Us US PSN sales ranking:
June #1
July #5 (against GoT and old games)
August #out of top 20

Yeah, but let's be fair. Spider-Man dropped in some countries to 30 bucks within 2 months and TLOU2 is still 40+

 

[cormack12]

Sort of expected, This is where all the big games are dropping and the deep price cuts were mainly retail. Still would have expected it in the top 20, but these are only snapshots. If the digital price dropped to £30 then I'm sure it would be back up there. I think it remained at £54.99 here in UK while stores had it for £30/£35

 

[FunkMiller]

The weird obsession some people have with this game is... really weird.

 

[prinz_valium]

Yeah, but let's be fair. Spider-Man dropped in some countries to 30 bucks within 2 months and TLOU2 is still 40+

True, but we'll see if TLOU will chart this holiday season, because PSN deals will definitely happen at that point
Also the full year chart will be very interesting.

 

[meech]

People still buying Gta 5 , unbelievable...

 

[Barakov]

Jesus fucking christ, GET OVER IT.

I can only imagine how some of you behaved after being dropped by your ex-gfs.

 

[cormack12]

People still buying Gta 5 , unbelievable...

This is the real news. Even my grandma owns a copy now. And she doesn't have a console. And died in 2002.

 

[Jigsaah]

Dude, the game wasn't bad. I don't understand all the vitriol.

 

[New Yorks Finest]

"The best the medium can offer?" A poor imitation of what Hollywood produces, and generic stealth gameplay we've seen since Splinter Cell and Metal Gear Solid from 20+ years back?

Gamings single greatest strength as a medium is that hunk of plastic with buttons on it. AKA player choice. TLoU2 isn't particularly interested in what choices it's players make. It's archaic design with top tier production values.

One hunnit agree, cinematic movies don't last too long in the charts. All of their "AAA" So called games, copy paste open worlds starting with Infamous:SS..and the lists goes on, the pump of same ol' shit cannot be stopped.

Wake me up when they have something in ball parks of CyberPunk. Open world done @#$% legend status amazin'.

 

[GhostOfTsu]

One hunnit agree, cinematic movies don't last too long in the charts. All of their "AAA" So called games, copy paste open worlds starting with Infamous:SS..and the lists goes on, the pump of same ol' shit cannot be stopped.

Wake me up when they have something in ball parks of CyberPunk. Open world done @#$% legend status amazin'.

Ghost of Tsushima is legend status, GOTY right now. We'll see for Cyberpunk but you should definitely play GOT.

 

[Shodan09]

I'd already forgotten it was a thing, as have many people. I've not even seen the sex meme in a while.

 

[cormack12]

I'd already forgotten it was a thing, as have many people. I've not even seen the sex meme in a while.

Eye bleach supplies are low.