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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Neo Blaster

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BTW I forget to add.

Yield issues don't affect retail products... they are 100% functional in their specs.

Yield issues are a cost issue for the Foundry and their consumers (aka Sony)... it is something the Foundry and customer wants to fix ASAP because you lose money proportionally to the amount of chip you produce.
Exactly, there are two big players in chip manufacturing, TSMC and Samsung, if one of them dropped the ball so hard like that after so many 7nm chips have been produced, clients would flee to competition.

Wondering what AMD would do with those defective chips, can they use them elsewhere?
 
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PSX

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They did it to themselves.

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CrysisFreak

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I don't care what exactly SSM shows tomorrow, but it really seems that they will show off something and with their talent it's going to be great.
Gameplay please!
 

IntentionalPun

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Being a Sony fan myself I look forward to what Sony can show me tomorrow.

What interests me the most on the Xbox side is what that 12 tf machine can do head to head vs the PS5.

I know we wont see these comparisons until well after launch but I want to see Cyberpunk and Call of Duty some of those big games what are the differences.

Plus I have always enjoyed Forza so really look forward to seeing that on the XsX.

I'm mildly curious about graphical differences but with the PS5 SSD just being hands down a lot faster my multi-plat machine decision is already made personally.

But from a tech geek perspective yeah I'm curious to ACTUALLY see XSX in action and the comparisons that will come out in November/December. From my casual observations I have my doubts the 12TF will actually outdo Sony's customizations.

BC is an interesting one as well with the different approaches.
 
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I'm mildly curious about graphical differences but with the PS5 SSD just being hands down a lot faster my multi-plat machine decision is already made personally.

But from a tech geek perspective yeah I'm curious to ACTUALLY see XSX in action and the comparisons that will come out in November/December. From my casual observations I have my doubts the 12TF will actually outdo Sony's customizations.

BC is an interesting one as well with the different approaches.

I really want to mainly see if that power can hold more games at 120 fps.

Graphically I dont care as much as I bet they will be close.
 
I have found it completely asinine the sheer amount of FUD that xbox fans have tried shoveling. GAF might shut it down quickly, but that shit trickles-down to the likes of Facebook, and the 'games journalists/websites' then come along and regurgetate it for clickbait, knowing damn well it's not true.

I'd mostly say that the vast majority of any critisisms towards XB has come because of MS themselves (Craig, feel like no proper next gen games, Series S' limitations).

I think that's an excellent point and one of my main pet peeves when it comes to "gaming journalism" or "influencers". The amount of sheer ignorance they demonstrate about anything the least bit technical is staggering. And they wear it like a badge of honor, like somehow their opinion takes carry more weight because they don't know a Teraflop from a Megabit.

I don't know how many here are UFC fans, but it would be like Joe Rogan commentating live on a title fight and having takes like:

"Well, seems like this guy won. Kimura, I hear he used a Kimura. Is a Kimura good? Who knows, I'm not technical, I'm just confused that the guy bleeding from the nose somehow won this fight"

In no other industry that shit flies, only in gaming really. It's fucking embarrassing...

Also the need to call it all 50/50, but that's a broader point about "journalism" as a whole these days... I digress.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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So actually he's right. Xbox Series S will only ship with a "High Speed" HDMI cable. It has a 2.1 out port though.
Only the Series X will ship with an "Ultra High Speed" HDMI cable.

Also Xbox has confirmed nothing extra is included with the console in box (like a game or Game Pass etc.)

But the S's cable in box is not capable of 4K30 HDR video, High Speed maxes out at 4K 24Hz.

Basically, HDMI cables are:
High Speed = 1.4 (PS4 and Xbox One shipped with)
Premium High Speed = 2.0 (PS4 Pro, Xbox One X shipped with these)
Ultra High Speed = 2.1 (PS5 and XSX)


Another cost cut.

Do they think that gamers are this poor?
 

sircaw

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I'm mildly curious about graphical differences but with the PS5 SSD just being hands down a lot faster my multi-plat machine decision is already made personally.

But from a tech geek perspective yeah I'm curious to ACTUALLY see XSX in action and the comparisons that will come out in November/December. From my casual observations I have my doubts the 12TF will actually outdo Sony's customizations.

BC is an interesting one as well with the different approaches.

I really hope that that 15% extra power is going to show up in Digital foundry tests between the consoles, i am afraid for the sanity of my friends like TheGreatWhiteShark TheGreatWhiteShark and @X-Fighter if the tests are basically equal or show like no upgrades

I might have to open a samaritans helpline for them that night.

Can you imagine the drama if the new cyberpunk has no differences at all, Sweet jesus?

Mind you, will it really affect our friendly shark he will probably be playing it on his ps5 anyways.
 

Darklor01

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I really want to mainly see if that power can hold more games at 120 fps.

Graphically I dont care as much as I bet they will be close.

True, but you know that even if, .. let's pick Gran Turismo 7... has 120FPS, as soon as there are graphical pop-in issues spotted or lights in a tunnel which don't come on when they're supposed to, there are people who will come out in force about them. For example, something like... just look at your under powered machine. To get 120FPS, they can't handle the graphics work load...etc.
 

Bo_Hazem

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I think it must be true that it's just RDNA (not RDNA2 certified) if the next AMD RDNA2 uses only 36-40CU chips (2x for big navi or even more, 3D stacked). Maybe AMD wants to keep RDNA2 mated with a set of features to be called that. When AMD reveals the new cards it'll be clear. CU's themselves probably RDNA2-based.

EDIT: AMD's article reassured that it's RDNA2.
 
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Montauk

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120fps is, imo, a stupid and wasteful target to have this gen. All this power and they want to waste it on double the frame rate? Especially when they're already giving so much to get native 4K. Most people simply won't notice or care.

Target 60fps on most games, that's a huge improvement on the 30 FPS we've got on most games this gen and every gen since the introduction of the 3D gaming.
 
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Darklor01

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I think it must be true that it's just RDNA (not RDNA2 certified) if the next AMD RDNA2 uses only 36-40CU chips (2x for big navi or even more, 3D stacked). Maybe AMD want to keep RDNA2 mated with a set of features to be called that. When AMD reveals the new cards it'll be clear. CU's themselves probably RDNA2-based.

Don't get baited into it. It's not worth it.
 

Dodkrake

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I think it must be true that it's just RDNA (not RDNA2 certified) if the next AMD RDNA2 uses only 36-40CU chips (2x for big navi or even more, 3D stacked). Maybe AMD want to keep RDNA2 mated with a set of features to be called that. When AMD reveals the new cards it'll be clear. CU's themselves probably RDNA2-based.

Well, going by the forums and what was said online about the PS5, this should confirm the Series X is not RDNA 2, right?

(of course not, but some people could twist the argument that way)
 
I think it must be true that it's just RDNA (not RDNA2 certified) if the next AMD RDNA2 uses only 36-40CU chips (2x for big navi or even more, 3D stacked). Maybe AMD want to keep RDNA2 mated with a set of features to be called that. When AMD reveals the new cards it'll be clear. CU's themselves probably RDNA2-based.

That 100% has to be an oversight, there's no way Microsoft are that stupid. I know they hired Greenberg to head their Marketing dpt, but still...

Of course the xsx has to be running rdna 2 architecture.
 

Bo_Hazem

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Well, going by the forums and what was said online about the PS5, this should confirm the Series X is not RDNA 2, right?

(of course not, but some people could twist the argument that way)
That 100% has to be an oversight, there's no way Microsoft are that stupid. I know they hired Greenberg to head their Marketing dpt, but still...

Of course the xsx has to be running rdna 2 architecture.

It'll be clear by the reveal of AMD's new cards, what set of features are there and what's missing. The CU's are definitely RDNA2-based though.
 
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