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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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So, basically what PlayStation gamers are now looking at is Starfield, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout all being timed exclusives for Xbox and PC, for about 12 months?
 

zaitsu

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So thats second announcement, im pretty sure thats coming.
 

MistBreeze

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If Microsoft think they can buy studios tow win it does not work like that fi it is like that they would win long time ago

Microsoft unfortunately can not make good services zune , mixer, windows phone even the last duo phone

to win you must have a studios with unified vision and excel in something special nobody can do it like u

because of that nintendo is winning , sony is winning, apple is winning, etc

buying many studios without unified vision and huge numbers like 23 studios is very hard to manage or control their quality
 

IntentionalPun

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Hoping it's not another Destiny.
I mean.. it's using the Bethesda engine that powers their RPGs.

Would be a bit odd if it was much like Destiny lol

I'm sure it'll have some differentiator in the space travel aspect, but it's probably gonna be Fallout/Skyrim in space for the most part.
 
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How about sony move as normal.How about Sony you just promote an internal studio & come out with an IP. How about they work with long term partners & bring them into the company. Instead of overpaying for mid level IP's.

Its a look for xbox. But this is just keeping up appearances. For games you was always going to get.Actually evaluate what is bought here. 7.5 billion is an L. We are not talking about couple 100 mill gaming studios here. Now its billions it has to get compared to other billion dollar deals. Xbox spent billions on minecraft they are still 3rd place & still not making PS level revenue. Just sit on that. This Bethesda deal cost double what Disney payed for Marvel. The deal is 500million short of What Disney paid for Marvel & Star wars.

Bethesda=7.5 bill ---- Marvel + Star wars=8 bill. Now sit there & tell me this a good deal?? When Xbox don't even make that revenue/profit yearly. Year on year decline subs, sales.This shit looks goofy. Lets keep the honesty.The games are mid ,none of Bethesda's roster is in convo of top generational games. If your not top you are bottom or mid. And mid is where those games sits. There is not 1 studio at bethesda that is on insomniac level. And they cost 225million. Per studio & per IP xbox have over payed drastically.

I don't know. I just see this as keeping up appearances for twitter & media. Longer term there's going to be big problems.Your relying on customers you don't have. Your not going to be spending AAA budgets & subsidise it for $1-15 dollar. Netflix debt is clear example why.Its bizarre. Something is going on to warrant this purchase. People that buy IP's,Masters,scripts.,movie rights,licences. None of them would buy Beth at this price. For MS to go & overspend on this means somethings going on behind the scenes. That they had to do this. Also that price means there was other bidders.Its ridiculously high for what you get.It just is.

Its interesting its great pressure especially when they make the shit exclusive ,but its the same dance as always. Its even worse at least before it was grounded,& bleeding edge,gears now its going to be at a cost of a decent IP dying. You cant avoid head to heads. In 2-3 years wolfenstein /doom /starfield whatever mid shit is gonna have to deal with Spiderman 2 ,new IP's and PS hype. And we know how that plays out.
I get what you are saying but just want to point out id is a huge get for MS. Doom was an awesome game and the id devs are engine wizards. Overall, this does not move the needle for me on XSX in the near-term but will definitely re-evaluate once their first-party games start coming out
 

Blue Spring

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So, basically what PlayStation gamers are now looking at is Starfield, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout all being timed exclusives for Xbox and PC, for about 12 months?
Nah, I think they release date to date otherwise we would already have some kind of statement for exclusivity.
Its microsoft that did buy them but not for Xbox to tank that investment.
 

Neo Blaster

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Love the damage control in this thread.
No one is denying it's huge, but looking at how MS needs to get those billions back, do you honestly think they can do that just with new subscriptions, not even mentioning all those usual $1 promotions? Minecraft was 2 billions and they kept it multi, what to say about 7,5 billions.

One more question: what would the average Xbox fan prefer, an exclusive he would have to pay more for due to increased Gamepass costs, or a multi at no extra cost?
 

IntentionalPun

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Nah, I think they release date to date otherwise we would already have some kind of statement for exclusivity.
Its microsoft that did buy them but not for Xbox to tank that investment.
Microsoft did make a statement; that they will honor current agreements and consider other platforms for future games "on a case by case basis."

Same statement they've made for their other studio acquisitions.
 

FranXico

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Man Microsoft is so pro consumer. I just want to thank them for that. Hope they buy Sega too.
Fuck Sony for having Spiderman character exclusive on Avengers game.
Am I doing it right?
Yes, that's right. They release their shit on PC too, so it's ok that they're in control of the industry!
 

scie

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Man Microsoft is so pro consumer. I just want to thank them for that. Hope they buy Sega too.
Fuck Sony for having Spiderman character exclusive on Avengers game.
Am I doing it right?

Solid 5/10, a little bit more practice smilies, memes and rage.
 
people usually overrate future value. Thus I don’t think XSS will be successful without a further price cut. People are more likely to bite the bullet and get a XSX for “future proofing”. Just my personal opinion here.

I think you are right for people buying right now at launch.
But for parents who end up buying a new console for their kids, or for people like me who may well end up buying one as a second console to go along with the PS5, I am not so sure!
But yeah will be interesting to see, especially once we get passed the initial launch period where I think we can expect everywhere to sell out.
 
Summing up my 2 latest posts :
Allegro biggest online retailer in Poland- 48M country in central Europe (think Amazon) in 5 hours from preorders have started :
●sold around 300 XSX from initial 1400
●sold around 30 XSS from initial 400

Allegro didn't handled PS5 preorders, second biggest retailer did : MediaMarkt we have no exact number but in the same 5 hours time until they deleted number of PS5 bought the number was 40.000, and they maintain open preorders for another day.
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Thats not even 5-1. This is brutal. Im just going to put it to yanks who have never left america.And internet dwellers. They really don't understand how much bigger a brand playstation is worldwide. Casuals go with whats popular,what they already have & what they missed out on.

I don't think cheerleaders realise the damage the showcase did during lockdown. With the economy you got to buy quality & whats best. Xbox ain't it.
 

Blue Spring

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Still seems pretty limp in sales compared to PS5. PS5 was gone in a few minutes or sites were crashed.
This seems almost too civilized. Like there is no real excitement or frenzy moment.
This might be the third time I post this here but MS did not make a convincing sales pitch for their boxes as of yet.
Power? Did not show anything. Games? No release dates and no gameplay. BC? A feature that barely gets used and nobody buys new hardware to play old games.
What reason is there to be excited about?
 

IntentionalPun

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Man Microsoft is so pro consumer. I just want to thank them for that. Hope they buy Sega too.
Fuck Sony for having Spiderman character exclusive on Avengers game.
Am I doing it right?

I love how the people who were concerned about Spiderman being exclusive on the Avengers game, are now Cheeering the buy of entire distribuitors and studios, its so funny


You guys should find specific people and call them out.

It would be actually funny.. and not just come across whiny lol
 

Garani

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Sony ain't secured 11 million for shit my friend. Their press release was a joke and an insult to brain activity

Well, Gamestop in my country has secured orders that will end filling no sooner than March 2020. Maybe they have very little allocation, who knows, but point is if you go TODAY to pre-order a PS5 at GameStop they'll give you a delivery date of March (I went there this morning since I was out buying a new switch).

Assume not timed, even. Those games are gone from playstation.
I agree.
 
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Not joking though, Sony has those IP's in hibernation mode:

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And a LOT more. Games don't produce themselves, you need to spend big on each title to make a quality game, and you need quality control as well. So for those foaming xbox fans, it's better to wait and see the results first, before waiting for 7 years for every other E3.

I crave a PS5 Motorstorm, just imagine how amazing that game would look on the new hardware!
 
I love how everyone is getting frustrated about not being able to secure a preorder from retailers, while my country is simply trying to secure retailers that might one day offer preorders. :pie_disappointed:

Y'all and your first world problems. I'm fully prepared to wait until the new year to land a PS5. I might have to schedule a visa run to Japan, for the express purpose of ganking a box.
I'm prepared to wait till spring. I don't want to bump into a defective unit which occurs early on when a new generation lands and have to rma and wait for an "eternity" to have it fixed or replaced. I hope early adopters don't have to go through that , first batcnes produced tend to have a small number of defective units as well, it's a small number I know. But buying early and ending up with a unit that's defective? That is a risk I'm not willing to take, especially on launch day when demand will be high.
 
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Zoro7

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You guys should find specific people and call them out.

It would be actually funny.. and not just come across whiny lol
Look at any of the Avengers and Xbox acquisition threads. There’s loads of people you’ll find.
Also I’m in a position where I can afford both consoles. So not whiny at all.
 

IntentionalPun

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Look at any of the Avengers and Xbox acquisition threads. There’s loads of people you’ll find.
Also I’m in a position where I can afford both consoles. So not whiny at all.
Well I'm in their arguing that exclusivity sucks...

Also think the same thing about the Bethesda acquisition.

I'm sure there are hypocrites but it's always better to call people out directly.
 

chilichote

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So, basically what PlayStation gamers are now looking at is Starfield, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout all being timed exclusives for Xbox and PC, for about 12 months?

I do not think so. If you want to bring such big games for your subscription service, you have to finance it somehow and that works best where such games are bought at full price on the first day.

You may be able to do without it with a few first-party titles, but the next Skyrim will bring you so much money that you will automatically become platform agnostic^^
 

Darklor01

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I love how the people who were concerned about Spiderman being exclusive on the Avengers game, are now Cheeering the buy of entire distribuitors and studios, its so funny

I agree with you. I'll add though that for those that are XBOX only gamers AND fans of the Spider-man character along with the Avengers, I kinda understand wanting to be able to play as Spider-man. After all, they can't do that on XBOX in any other game either. I'd also add, it's in a game both systems have access to, so.. I get that angle as well.

For those clamoring about console exclusivity, well, I guess the only thing to say is.. deal with it. What's good for one is good for the other. Sony bought out studios, Microsoft has bought out studios. It happens.

Sony has Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games, Media Molecule (and others) that they bought.
XBOX studios bought 343, Double Fine, Mojang, Ninja Theory, Obsidian, Rare, Playground Games, Turn 10, Bethesda, Zenimax (and others).
 

Thirty7ven

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Don't forget all these games need money to be made, MS already spent billions just for the acquisition. If the majority of them means low quality MT-infested Gamepass fodder, then Sony shouldn't be worried at all.

That’s not going to happen.

Sony coasting on PS4 success instead of aggressively building on the back of it will be their undoing.

MS is making the third party landscape smaller for everybody, and they have an army of first party studios. I expect 2023 onwards to be mega years for Xbox. They have the studios, they have the money, they have a low barrier of entry, they have gamepass.
 
That's kind of my point. As soon as X now appears to have perceived exclusives people who weren't interested now are. Hence, exclusives sell consoles.

Thanks for coming to my talk.
given that "xbox fans" already had interest on xbox, I think this poll addresses more the rest of people.
also, the wording may say "more exclusives", but it is surely describing the twenty-ton gorilla that is BETHESDA games gone exclusive, not some "general" exclusives.

(y) sure, always a pleasure talking to non-trolls
 

ethomaz

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Hate to say, doing that is just going to make it look more like they have production issues and couldn't product enough units for stores!
How dare you say that when PS5 is the one with issues due the high clock lol

Big chips are hard to produce than smaller ones no matter the clock... so if the production is bad for PS5 the for Xbox Series X is even worst.

Series S should be the chip with better production right now but I believe the appeals is pretty low at least with early adopters (the moms are no shopping yet).
 
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