The Pleasure
Member
Yeah, all ten people playing Guilty Gear are going to tower those Street Fighter players. Guilty Gear is Melty Blood that stepped out of the bathroom.
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Spaceman292
Banned
How can you know it sucked if you never actually played it?
So with new consoles on the horizon, I guess now is the best time to talk about gaming's most iconic fighting franchise.
Was there anything noteworthy about Street Fighter 5's entry in the series? Did its existence mean anything this whole decade?
I remember being hyped back in the day for Street Fighter 4, I even wanted to buy it as part of the 3DS launch line up.
Street Fighter 3 also had its own moments. Amazing sprite work that still holds up, and it was fun watching the competitive tournament scene.
But what the hell happened with Street Fighter 5? I owned a PS4 so the exclusivity wasn't an issue with me but I never once felt like picking it up.
Even when it was free on Steam, nope, still didn't feel like touching it.
Did anyone else feel the same?
Edit: Oh yeah, and now one of the main producers behind the franchise left (Yoshinori Ono), so what does that say about its future?
The Pleasure
Member
He's from Canada. What do you expect eh?
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Because that "crudeness" makes it "pixel art".
Above a certain resolution it's just "drawn art".
JohnSpartanLee
Member
Chun Li's, Dhalsim's and Sagat's new movesets are an improvement in my opinion. Everything else I didn't like, especially the new characters.
Also it can be frustrating to play against Bison, Guile or Abigail players who are a threat without having to put in much work.
USF4 is just more fun. I could play it forever.
It's a nice challenge though if you try to compete with people by only using a gimmick-free Sagat or Chun Li in SF5.
Also it can be frustrating to play against Bison, Guile or Abigail players who are a threat without having to put in much work.
USF4 is just more fun. I could play it forever.
It's a nice challenge though if you try to compete with people by only using a gimmick-free Sagat or Chun Li in SF5.
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
so people who didn't switch should not be able to play it?
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
I had a bunch of buddies I used to spar with in 360 days. it sucks that we can't play 5 together. I'm on PC, so I still get to play now, but it sucks for everyone else who loves the franchise, but don't have a ps4/PC.
Nocturno999
Member
It was the worst for Capcom fighting games in general and SFV damaged the FGC. All the contrary to what SF4 represented.
The Pleasure
Member
V counters are garbage. They should grant invincibility or be one frame like kof blowbacks if they're going to take that much meter.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
Member
I love and will always play SF games, but never again EX3 and SFV.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
The Pleasure
Member
John Mullins
Banned
Don't like the cartoony vibe for the new SF. or the fact they all seem to have miniature heads (WTF)
I'd love a reboot of SF II which was much grittier than what we have now. Really not a fan of the overblown visuals FX when doing super moves. Even a lowly fireball is too lavish. I'd love them to pair that RIGHT back and give it a brutal/realistic feel. Make it slower and more deliberate. In MK 11 I love how just bog standard punch/licks feel very satisfying to land.
Back to basics basically I want. Don't rely on flashy graphics. SF II genuinely looks better imo.
I'd love a reboot of SF II which was much grittier than what we have now. Really not a fan of the overblown visuals FX when doing super moves. Even a lowly fireball is too lavish. I'd love them to pair that RIGHT back and give it a brutal/realistic feel. Make it slower and more deliberate. In MK 11 I love how just bog standard punch/licks feel very satisfying to land.
Back to basics basically I want. Don't rely on flashy graphics. SF II genuinely looks better imo.
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nush
Member
Console exclusivity and being pushed out the door in an unfinished state really hurt the game. I had a PS4 so the exclusivity wasn't an issue, I even waited a few months before buying hoping that would be enough time to have a finished game. Took way too long to get that game into a good state.
Honestly, I spend more time loding it up once a week to grind for fight money through weekly challenges then I did actually playing the game.
It's the game it should have been closer to launch now, but it's just too late. All the defenders are FGC players that only care about VS online and nothing else.
Honestly, I spend more time loding it up once a week to grind for fight money through weekly challenges then I did actually playing the game.
It's the game it should have been closer to launch now, but it's just too late. All the defenders are FGC players that only care about VS online and nothing else.
yurinka
Member
SFV is:
-The 2nd best selling Capcom fighting game ever (even if still is a console exclusive in a single generation)
-Capcom's 10th overall best selling game ever (even if still is a console exclusive in a single generation)
-The Capcom fighting game with the biggest amount of active players ever at least on Steam (we don't have public PS4 number)
-It's having the biggest active userbase now, on its 5th year thanks to all the improvements and additions it had over time
-The Capcom with the biggest eSports audience, amount of tournaments and participants ever
-The first fighting game to have an official tournament for the Olympics ran with the IOC
-The first SF whose updates to add gameplay rebalances, new game modes, new gameplay feature have been free to all users, no one has been left behind (a paywall)
-The first SF with cross-play online between all its platforms: the entire userbase shared always the same online
-The first SF where you were able to unlock a (huge) portion of it the post launch content: all characters, some stages, some costumes, some colors etc instead of being forced to buy a new game for them
-The first SF where if you want only one or a few post launch character, instead of having to buy a full game you can buy only those characters you're interested for a smaller price
It had a rocky start with many issues but improved a lot with many fixes and improvement and now it's an excellent game that is doing a great job. Can't wait to see how it gets improved in PS5 with reduced loading times, reduced input lag and (as the biggest portion of the userbase migrates to the next-gen) better online matches thanks to SSD, Bluetooth 5.1, USB 3.1 gen 2 and wifi 6.
Last month they included vanilla SFV in PS Plus, so we expect many SFVCE upgrades or full games being sold during last month or in the current month.
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
I prefer Alpha all day than this. Art Style is just horrible.
Kokoloko85
Member
Ono is going so hopefully they get back on track...
It was the worst generation because ST3 had the Alpha series and VS games so that made it the best generation .
SFV was a great game I think. I love them all apart from SF1 lol
It was the worst generation because ST3 had the Alpha series and VS games so that made it the best generation .
SFV was a great game I think. I love them all apart from SF1 lol
SkylineRKR
Member
Somehow IV was better, and I wasn't even too big on IV. I think there are much better 2d fighters fhan SFV, Samurai Shodown, KOF XIV, GG Xrd revelator. MK probably although I am not too hot on those mechanics and animations.
fallingdove
Member
Guilty Gear was referenced for its visual design and gameplay not for the number of people playing it.
SupremeHoodie
Member
Wrong use of eh.
GSArchitecture
Neo Member
Grew up with Street Fighter 2. I think they can't really capture the art direction that made the series popular. I'm going to try to explain myself through photos and gifs that maybe showcase what was originally intended as a
mix of Japanese and western art. It's gritty...
mix of Japanese and western art. It's gritty...
diffusionx
Gold Member
I didn't put the time into SFV I wanted to, and eventually it passed. It seemed fine and looked great, but I was really not pleased with how Capcom half-assed it at launch and then made us pay a bunch of money to make it whole over time.
Damian black
Member
Eh, sony was just smarter and actually gave a fuck about getting more fighting games on the platform. Coupled with the fact that xbox one didnt support 360 sticks, it made it automatically the worst console to play fighting games on.
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MiguelItUp
Member
Grew up playing Street Fighter and V was the least played Street Fighter title for me. I'm sure it's in a better state now. But at release, it was a shell of that, and that was a huge mistake. It took years for it to become a full fledged title. But I feel like it's too late.
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Neff
Member
The Pleasure
Member
That's because they completely took away defensive options and awarded braindead rush down. That and grapplers no longer having one frame priority in their grabs really hurt gief making him less aggressive in a game that was about aggression.
Nymphae
Banned
They all have flaws and they're all fun
The Pleasure
Member
Goef needs greenhand and one frame spd traps again. Not crush counter mechanics that have people fishing for unearned combos.
Nymphae
Banned
I have fun with Vega and don't worry so much about high level nit picking, I have lots of fun with it.
TheContact
Member
hard to beat super street fighter 2 turbo, don't think anything ever will
Strider Highwind
Banned
It was empty and terrible at launch, but after all the updates and on pc its fire now imo
The Pleasure
Member
I preferred the more defensive style play of 4 or super turbo 2. Not the bullshit double tap comeback from my ass v skill that makes comebacks unearned. If you can come back in super turbo 2 you earned it. If you come back with balrogs double tap fuck you. You don't deserve shit for jabbing into a v skill and doing bullshit. Especially if the person successfully defended most of that round.
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Nymphae
Banned
I just hear crying at this point, let it go
The Pleasure
Member
Nah. Bullshit is bullshit. I'm more tuned to the person who fights well the entire foght not one bullshit v skill. The real fight doesn't happen until one triggers their bullshit mechanic.
Nymphae
Banned
Don't play it then. You're wasting your time telling people who have fun with it that it's not actually fun.
I don't like SFV graphics, it looks like an Unreal Engine fan-made project, filled with motion blur.
Also the sound effects are the worst i've ever heard, jabs sound like a paper sheet being hit, blocks sound like someone knocking on a wood trunk, it's really weird, they have no impact whatsoever.
Also the sound effects are the worst i've ever heard, jabs sound like a paper sheet being hit, blocks sound like someone knocking on a wood trunk, it's really weird, they have no impact whatsoever.
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InDaGulag
Member
Recent Fighting Game Sales Figures
Smash Ultimate: 20,000,000
MKX: 11,000,000
MK11: 8,000,000
Tekken 7: 6,000,000
Smash for Wii U: 5,370,000
SF5: 4,500,000
Yeah I'd say Capcom at least would consider this the worst generation for SF. What was once the juggernaut of the genre is now in dead last.
Smash Ultimate: 20,000,000
MKX: 11,000,000
MK11: 8,000,000
Tekken 7: 6,000,000
Smash for Wii U: 5,370,000
SF5: 4,500,000
Yeah I'd say Capcom at least would consider this the worst generation for SF. What was once the juggernaut of the genre is now in dead last.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Nah, SFV is incredible; in my top 3 for fighters of all time.
JordanN
Banned
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lock2k
Banned
It had the best music in a video game ever.
Straight up fire, so it's redeemed.
Agreed.
Also, Arika characters shit all over post SF4 Capcom new characters.
They have so much style.