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[Stuart360]

Using a 3700x here , so it shouldn't be that bad . The problem is even in enclosed area the FPS still tanks . Yupe, mine is bundled from my 3080 . I guess the game is terribly optimized at the moment .

Oh no a 3700X is more than good enough lol. Have you tried using Rivatuner to see cpu/gpu usage?. Its obvioulsy not you cpu, which only leaves your gpu. Shroud is currently playing on Ultra at 80-140fps on his 3080. He has RT tuned off though, and DLSS turn on, and playing at 1440p.
CohhCarnage played the game yesterday on his 3080 at 1440p ultra, DLSS on and RT on full, and he was also getting above 60fps.

 

[Rickyiez]

I'm playing on 1440p ultrawide , so the FPS could be lower . The FPS is not the main issue , the thing is it stays the same irregardless most of the graphics settings .

Look at this mate , GPU usage is almost maxed out while CPU only 45-60% , I guess I know what's the reason already . Yes , it's optimization .

 

[Stuart360]

Look at this mate , GPU usage is almost maxed out while CPU only 45-60% , I guess I know what's the reason already . Yes , it's optimization .

What resolution you playing at mate?. Also ultra widescreen does add a bit extra work for your gpu.

 

[Rickyiez]

What resolution you playing at mate?. Also ultra widescreen does add a bit extra work for your gpu.

So I'm on 3440x1440 , FPS will always be lower than 1440p . I should be at the stage where I'm GPU bound , so DLSS should at least boost a few frames right . But nope , it stays the same so yeah , I'm expecting a new patch soon

 

[Stuart360]

So I'm on 3440x1440 , FPS will always be lower than 1440p . I should be at the stage where I'm GPU bound , so DLSS should at least boost a few frames right . But nope , it stays the same so yeah , I'm expecting a new patch soon

Yeah there are bnenchmark vids showing DLSS make a sizeable difference when turned on, so yeah this is a bit strange. I'm guessing you have RT turned on?

 

[regawdless]

I'm playing on 1440p ultrawide , so the FPS could be lower . The FPS is not the main issue , the thing is it stays the same irregardless most of the graphics settings .

Look at this mate , GPU usage is almost maxed out while CPU only 45-60% , I guess I know what's the reason already . Yes , it's optimization .

What Field of View do you have?
I've experienced that the FoV can also have a big impact on the CPU. Like, at max FoV, it's crippling my 8700k at 5ghz in some situations.

 

[Rickyiez]

FOV is untouched here at the screenshot , although i've tried 85 before and it doesn't seem to do much . I'm checking reddit and they have similar issues here

It could be some certain settings that break DLSS

 

[jshackles]

Played an hour and a half or so on Xbox One X, no problems.

I've decided I'll be recruiting nothing but Karens.

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

Has there been any PS5 footage yet?

Nobody besides media has the new consoles lol

 

[regawdless]

FOV is untouched here at the screenshot , although i've tried 85 before and it doesn't seem to do much . I'm checking reddit and they have similar issues here

It could be some certain settings that break DLSS

Benchmarks suggest that DLSS fps gains at quality setting are rather small on 1080 and 1440p, but more significant at 4k. DLSS on anything other than quality looks bad though.
Seems very weird that there are so little gains at lower resolutions.
Not a good look for an Nvidia promoted game.

 

[Pandemic]

Pretty underwhelming launch by the looks of this thread. Considering purchasing this, has anyone got any thoughts on the game thus far?

 

[sobaka770]

Once i have 9900MB of my vram on RTX 3080 used up the game turns into a stutter at this point on 4k max settings. DLSS barely helps to reduce the memory load.

The game doesn't do a good job managing vram cause it starts with 8800Mb but it seems to jump up by a gigabyte if I open some menus and never reverts back. It's like it keeps all the useless junk in video memory leading to saturation.

At this point I don't know if I should just remove the HD textures pack or wait for a patch or 2 because the game runs fine at around 45-50 FPS until I run into the bottleneck.

On a positive note, the game looks almost too good during rain with RTX on.

 

[regawdless]

Pretty underwhelming launch by the looks of this thread. Considering purchasing this, has anyone got any thoughts on the game thus far?

Haven't played much yet. But I already miss having a main character with a personality that I can identify with.
Let's see how it'll turn out once I'm deeper into the game.

 

[Compsiox]

I'm a real gamer

 

[regawdless]

I'm a real gamer

Are you a real hacker as well though?

 

[Compsiox]

Wow the benchmark is very helpful. I didn't want to ruin the opening sequence by putting settings too high and having a juttering mess.

Are you a real hacker as well though?

Of course I am.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Pretty underwhelming launch by the looks of this thread. Considering purchasing this, has anyone got any thoughts on the game thus far?

Hardly. Gaf is anti Ubisoft but then again the game is uninteresting as hell even with the no main protagonist gimmick. I went and bought a month of uplay+ for it tho. Aint paying full price for it.

 

[makaveli60]

This is what I'm talking about when I say I hate playing on pc. No talking about the game in here just the issues with the pc version. Then when I say this pcmr tells me it's not true... all the time.

 

[regawdless]

This is what I'm talking about when I say I hate playing on pc. No talking about the game in here just the issues with the pc version. Then when I say this pcmr tells me it's not true... all the time.

Most games look and run great, way better than on consoles. This is one exception and of course the focus is on the tech initially, because it's bundled with the new cards.
Once the Initial tech impressions are done, it'll shift to more gameplay discussions.

No need to hate. And even with the current issues, it's still by far the best version to play currently.

 

[Arun1910]

Where the hell are the Nvidia drivers?!

 

[TrebleShot]

This is what I'm talking about when I say I hate playing on pc. No talking about the game in here just the issues with the pc version. Then when I say this pcmr tells me it's not true... all the time.

PC gaming isn't about playing the game, its about pissing about with settings for a month until the next un-optimized game comes out. Expensive enthusiasts hobby, like car tuning. Its about the tinkering more than the games themselves.

 

[regawdless]

PC gaming isn't about playing the game, its about pissing about with settings for a month until the next un-optimized game comes out. Expensive enthusiasts hobby, like car tuning. Its about the tinkering more than the games themselves.

Of course I don't really play the game. Too busy trying to take great screenshots to validate my way to expensive GPU purchase.

Keep the stereotypes coming

But you're right in the sense that some tinkering is part of the fun. Though not exclusively, I actually like gameplay as well hehe.

 

[Compsiox]

PC gaming isn't about playing the game, its about pissing about with settings for a month until the next un-optimized game comes out. Expensive enthusiasts hobby, like car tuning. Its about the tinkering more than the games themselves.

Not everyone is always overclocking and benchmarking.

I'd bet it's a very small percentage of people who prioritize that over gaming.

 

[ScaryBrandon]

Once i have 9900MB of my vram on RTX 3080 used up the game turns into a stutter at this point on 4k max settings. DLSS barely helps to reduce the memory load.

The game doesn't do a good job managing vram cause it starts with 8800Mb but it seems to jump up by a gigabyte if I open some menus and never reverts back. It's like it keeps all the useless junk in video memory leading to saturation.

At this point I don't know if I should just remove the HD textures pack or wait for a patch or 2 because the game runs fine at around 45-50 FPS until I run into the bottleneck.

On a positive note, the game looks almost too good during rain with RTX on.

Man you bought a 10gb card for 4k in 2020. I feel for you but come on... Try to return it if you can most of us knew that was going to happen.

 

[sobaka770]

Man you bought a 10gb card for 4k in 2020. I feel for you but come on... Try to return it if you can most of us knew that was going to happen.

Let me put it this way: the game has very sharp textures with the optional HD pack and there is a TON of detail. There's graphiti everywhere, some streets look insanely complex and sharp. Only the NPCs look wonky for some reason (but it's not the fault of textures, they look very sharp on NPCs as well). Even with all of this the settings say that only 8.7Gb of VRAM should be utilized. Therefore I think it's on UBI to make the optimisation of memory dump, I fully expect that the patch on Friday is to address this issue and I think that 10Gb should be sufficient for most games at least for the next 3-4 years. Let's not forget that console RAM is shared and Xbox SX only has 10Gb of fast Ram so I don't see an issue. The upside is that I can play this and Cyberpunk at release at higher than next-gen console settings and FPS and don't have to wait for a year until Nvidia clears its backlog and gets us new cards. Because let's face it, the AMD cards may have more RAM but without Nvidia DLSS they can't compete in performance with Ray Tracing on. So I'm very happy with my purchase and actually feel lucky I got the damn card.

 

[Arun1910]

Man you bought a 10gb card for 4k in 2020. I feel for you but come on... Try to return it if you can most of us knew that was going to happen.

His VRAM isn't being used. Its being allocated. Massive difference.

 

[Compsiox]

Ultra, 1080p, with Raytracing on Ultra and no DLSS on a 2080ti seems to be working well when walking around the city. Driving feels bad though due to a significant drop in FPS.

 

[ScaryBrandon]

Let me put it this way: the game has very sharp textures with the optional HD pack and there is a TON of detail. There's graphiti everywhere, some streets look insanely complex and sharp. Only the NPCs look wonky for some reason (but it's not the fault of textures, they look very sharp on NPCs as well). Even with all of this the settings say that only 8.7Gb of VRAM should be utilized. Therefore I think it's on UBI to make the optimisation of memory dump, I fully expect that the patch on Friday is to address this issue and I think that 10Gb should be sufficient for most games at least for the next 3-4 years. Let's not forget that console RAM is shared and Xbox SX only has 10Gb of fast Ram so I don't see an issue. The upside is that I can play this and Cyberpunk at release at higher than next-gen console settings and FPS and don't have to wait for a year until Nvidia clears its backlog and gets us new cards. Because let's face it, the AMD cards may have more RAM but without Nvidia DLSS they can't compete in performance with Ray Tracing on. So I'm very happy with my purchase and actually feel lucky I got the damn card.

I mean when watch dogs legion which is a game that was designed to run on 8gb last gen consoles almost hits the limit of your 10gb vram what do you expect to happen with next gen games that are designed for 16gb consoles? You should never feel lucky to give a company your money, thats insane. Dont be a victim of the FOMO. There will be plenty of stock by the end of the year from both Nvidia and AMD. Price wars will happen and Nvidia models with more vram will hit the market early 2021 while you're stuck with a card that struggles with vram usage from the very beginning.

 

[Compsiox]

The game looks really fucking nice with the lighting. It's fucking insane how good lighting can make the fugliest games look so appealing.

 

[GymWolf]

Oh no a 3700X is more than good enough lol. Have you tried using Rivatuner to see cpu/gpu usage?. Its obvioulsy not you cpu, which only leaves your gpu. Shroud is currently playing on Ultra at 80-140fps on his 3080. He has RT tuned off though, and DLSS turn on, and playing at 1440p.
CohhCarnage played the game yesterday on his 3080 at 1440p ultra, DLSS on and RT on full, and he was also getting above 60fps.

Why the hell a guy like shroud is playing a game with dreadfull combat?? Isn't the guy a fps specialist?

 

[cormack12]

Pretty underwhelming launch by the looks of this thread. Considering purchasing this, has anyone got any thoughts on the game thus far?

Stupid time to reelase it. Most people will favour Valhalla over this, there will be a decent crossover between those playerbases and people are dropping cash on new consoles. Plus, the game is a frankenstein of an IP right now. It's changed with every release so people aren't really entrenched in the IP. Plus two Ubi games on the go is a lot to ask given the design and content pools.

 

[GymWolf]

Ultra, 1080p, with Raytracing on Ultra and no DLSS on a 2080ti seems to be working well when walking around the city. Driving feels bad though due to a significant drop in FPS.

Have you at least tried 1440p? I bet you can scale down some settings from ultra to high without any loss in fidelity...

 

[Stuart360]

Why the hell a guy like shroud is playing a game with dreadfull combat?? Isn't the guy a fps specialist?

Yeah he is, but he still plays single player games.

 

[sobaka770]

I mean when watch dogs legion which is a game that was designed to run on 8gb last gen consoles almost hits the limit of your 10gb vram what do you expect to happen with next gen games that are designed for 16gb consoles? You should never feel lucky to give a company your money, thats insane. Dont be a victim of the FOMO. There will be plenty of stock by the end of the year from both Nvidia and AMD. Price wars will happen and Nvidia models with more vram will hit the market early 2021 while you're stuck with a card that struggles with vram usage from the very beginning.

I disagree with that completely:
1. Watch dogs on Last Gen is not same as Next Gen. Last Gen Watch Dogs will not utilize high-rez textures and other things to fit into RAM. New Gen may as well use all 16GB for the game.
2. 16GB is combined RAM not just VRAM. Therefore some games may use more than 10GB just for VRAM especially on PS5, but dialing it down a notch is not a big deal. Considering the sharpness of WDL I think the returns would be incremental at best. Also let me add that XSX does have only 10GB of fast RAM, so in multiplats I should get at least parity with next-gen consoles as I don't think we'll see devs using more slow ram for graphics in multiplats.
3. FOMO is a very loaded term and can apply to everything. I think 3080 happens to be a great card compared to competition, I am willing to pay and play games at release as my PS5 order will probably be delayed anyway. It's pointless to wait every year for next big thing as if I buy RTX 3080SUPER with 20Gb ram, you know what will come out the year after? RTX4080. So it's the same vicious circle again. I just try to make decisions based on what value I derive and I think it's worth to get RTX3080 now considering the jump in performance, Ray Tracing being better implemented in games that come out in the next year that I'm willing to play.

That being said you're entitled to wait-and-see approach if you want to play games like a year after release. It does save a lot of money and comes with a lot of added perks, such as patches and free DLC.

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah he is, but he still plays single player games.

I can only imagine his reaction every time he has to shoot guns in this game

 

[Compsiox]

Have you at least tried 1440p? I bet you can scale down some settings from ultra to high without any loss in fidelity...

I usually use my card to play Siege at 240fps lol. I'll try messing with things after I get some sleep.

 

[regawdless]

The game looks really fucking nice with the lighting. It's fucking insane how good lighting can make the fugliest games look so appealing.

If find the lighting to be rather underwhelming so far. The reflections are very nice though.

I will wait for the patch though before I'll continue playing it.

 

[Stuart360]

I can only imagine his reaction every time he has to shoot guns in this game

He actually likes the game, he just says its too easy for him, which it is lol, his instant head shots really are impressive to see.

 

[scalman]

soon..in about 3hrs

 

[Stitch]

This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.

This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.

forums.ubisoft.com

Based on feedback, we’re deploying a hotfix to address the performance issues we’re seeing on PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC. This hotfix has already been deployed on PS4 and Xbox, and it is coming to PC on Friday, October 30th. We will continue monitoring your feedback in the meantime to respond accordingly.

Patch Notes: 

• Global performance improvements on PS4 for smoother gameplay/driving
• Made several improvements to PC performance
• Optimized performance to improve framerates for RTX GPUs
• Fixed an issue that caused framerate drops to occur when characters walk through checkpoints
• Improved the framerate performance when driving
• Fixed a freeze when switching input controllers on PC
• Fixed sporadic crashes on PS4
• Fixed sporadic crashes on Xbox One/S
• Fixed an issue that could cause the game to crash when launched on a console set to TURKISH, INDONESIAN, GREEK, ROMANIAN, HUNGARIAN, VIETNAMESE or THAI languages
• Fixed an issue that could cause the game to crash on Xbox One X when selecting a certain option in the Into the Void mission
• Fixed an issue that could cause the game to crash when browsing through the Premium Shop tabs on Xbox One

Also weird that there's no new Nvidia Driver

 

[regawdless]

soon..in about 3hrs

Wow that's bad. Guess I'm privileged as fuck

 

[makaveli60]

Some much needed initial impressions in this thread after playing it for 1,5 hours:
-playing on ps4, graphics are very good, but lots of tearing in the city and not so good image quality, so yeah you are better off playing it on nextgen
-lots of details, the city and the setting feels handcrafted, lots of background info
-surprisingly, It's not full of SJW propaganda so far, it seems quite objective and provides a lot of thought provoking radio shows concerning social media, tech corps influencing us, data collection ("if you are not paying for a product then you are the product") etc. it's interesting so far
-hacking is cool, driving and shooting is nothing special so far, they are ok

 

[GymWolf]

He actually likes the game, he just says its too easy for him, which it is lol, his instant head shots really are impressive to see.

I guess he can like the other things yeah, gun combat is probably not a gigantic part in these games.

 

[eyesabitdull]

Some much needed initial impressions in this thread after playing it for 1,5 hours:
-playing on ps4, graphics are very good, but lots of tearing in the city and not so good image quality, so yeah you are better off playing it on nextgen
-lots of details, the city and the setting feels handcrafted, lots of background info
-surprisingly, It's not full of SJW propaganda so far, it seems quite objective and provides a lot of thought provoking radio shows concerning social media, tech corps influencing us, data collection ("if you are not paying for a product then you are the product") etc. it's interesting so far
-hacking is cool, driving and shooting is nothing special so far, they are ok

2 pages in, and this is the first real gameplay impression. Smh.

But thank you for the impression, I was scrolling and reading every post wondering when I'd find one lol

It seems like an average game, but Karak from ACG seemed to really like it, so I'm at odds.

Hope to read more impressions on the thread and less about PC benchmarks on the coming pages.

 

[ScaryBrandon]

I disagree with that completely:
1. Watch dogs on Last Gen is not same as Next Gen. Last Gen Watch Dogs will not utilize high-rez textures and other things to fit into RAM. New Gen may as well use all 16GB for the game.
2. 16GB is combined RAM not just VRAM. Therefore some games may use more than 10GB just for VRAM especially on PS5, but dialing it down a notch is not a big deal. Considering the sharpness of WDL I think the returns would be incremental at best. Also let me add that XSX does have only 10GB of fast RAM, so in multiplats I should get at least parity with next-gen consoles as I don't think we'll see devs using more slow ram for graphics in multiplats.
3. FOMO is a very loaded term and can apply to everything. I think 3080 happens to be a great card compared to competition, I am willing to pay and play games at release as my PS5 order will probably be delayed anyway. It's pointless to wait every year for next big thing as if I buy RTX 3080SUPER with 20Gb ram, you know what will come out the year after? RTX4080. So it's the same vicious circle again. I just try to make decisions based on what value I derive and I think it's worth to get RTX3080 now considering the jump in performance, Ray Tracing being better implemented in games that come out in the next year that I'm willing to play.

That being said you're entitled to wait-and-see approach if you want to play games like a year after release. It does save a lot of money and comes with a lot of added perks, such as patches and free DLC.

AMD gpus that are slightly faster and cheaper with more vram and consume less power are coming out in just over two weeks. FOMO is bad no matter how hard you try to rationalize it. I stand by my point: 10gb at 4k for 3-4 years that you want to keep your gpu will not be remotely enough.

 

[makaveli60]

An example of what I talked about, props to Ubi for having the balls to include such things, I'm honestly surprised:

It's not the whole text and I want to add what they talk about is not the fascism that lunatic far-leftists accuse of everyone that disagrees with them but real fascism that those very same far leftists want.

 

[Compsiox]

It's very playable in 4K with raytracing off. Very tempting.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

OK, I promised myself I won't buy it but after listening to Karak giggling for half of his review, I decided to dip in. Downloading now.

 

[Compsiox]

I can't pick up a keycard to complete a mission. Good start.

 

[Guilty_AI]

An example of what I talked about, props to Ubi for having the balls to include such things, I'm honestly surprised:

It's not the whole text and I want to add what they talk about is not the fascism that lunatic far-leftists accuse of everyone that disagrees with them but real fascism that those very same far leftists want.

Thats exactly the facism people on the far left accuse others of. They believe people on the right are some sort of "america-first Trump-loving" cult, and paradoxaly believe these are all being supported by big corps (when very obviously these corps are supporting left leaning narratives). The core of the issue on the current climate that doesnt get mentioned anywhere there is that the "nation-before-individual" mentality isn't surrounding a nation but social groups, and that whats causing the chaos and diviseness is mainstream media alterating the fabric of reality to make people believe in things that just aren't true, driving them to extremism by painting an extremist picture of reality.

Honestly, just keep the PC troubleshooting coming, its more interesting. I dont expect a big corp product to make a proper critic of what they themselves are guilty of.