Killer Sakoman
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I haven't bought one yet. Do you recommend them? Do you think 3D sound will make it worth investing in a premium heaset like Sony's XM4?
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Lance McDonald is not Bluepoint or Sony developer.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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So, basically:
Multiple interviews with dev stating Demon’s Souls has ray tracing.
One translated from Spanish interview saying it doesn’t.
timmyp53
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That would be quite practical. I hope home theater surround sound tempest support is in the works sooner than later.
onesvenus
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It's not translated from Spanish. The English transcript is completely clear.
Maybe he fucked up but there's no error in the translation
Killer Sakoman
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Why would you need tempest in surround system? I thought 3D is there to bring surround experience to stereo headset and virtual surround.
Is there a difference between 3D and surround? I am little confused here.
Killer Sakoman
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People need to prey that Demon's Souls have some sort of RT. Otherwise, RT will be proven to be a marketting gimmick as the best looking next gen game doesn't use it.
Snowdonhoffen
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It seems the person who wrote the PlayStation Blog messed it up, maybe that person confused the real time and the ray tracing stuff. It would make sense given that we haven't seen the game with ray tracing and I'm sure we would have by now if that was the case.
Can someone update me with Demon's Soul.
What I know is it has a 4k 30fps and Dynamic 4k 60fps (not 1440p 60fps)
Now I'm hearing it' doesn't use Ray Tracing but PlayStation.Blog says it uses it.
I'm confuse as I don't always read through the thread.
Unless it meant Dynamic 4k 60fps mode doesn't use ray tracing??
Fidelity=Ray Tracing
Frame Rate=No Ray Tracing
But it is also weird that they haven't corrected it.
kyliethicc
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surround is still just a flat plane around the listener. 2D basically.
Left/right and front/back. 2 dimensions of stereo sound. Using just 2 or as many as 7 channels.
3D is above/below as well as surround, Left/right, front/back, above/below. 3 dimensions of stereo sound.
DeeDogg_
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It’s PlayStation so it’s fine. Nothing to see here
Can someone update me with Demon's Soul.
What I know is it has a 4k 30fps and Dynamic 4k 60fps (not 1440p 60fps)
Now I'm hearing it' doesn't use Ray Tracing but PlayStation.Blog says it uses it.
I'm confuse as I don't always read through the thread.
Unless it meant Dynamic 4k 60fps mode doesn't use ray tracing??
Fidelity=Ray Tracing
Frame Rate=No Ray Tracing
FrankWza
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I’m comparing them wired right now as I don’t have a PS5 against X2HR. They sound really close considering they are closed back. They are not as comfortable around the ear because the X2hr have awesome cushions and are velour vs pleather but are much lighter as the x2 have metal in their build. Based on some flac tracks and 3d simulation tracks I would say absolutely recommend. They sound as good as probably a $99 pair of headphones but you’re also getting double mic and the ability to go wireless. Just for the fact they are convenient for 3D audio with ps5 and have a mic already built in and are wireless I’d say they’re a steal at $99. BUT, everyone has a different size head and ear shape so most of what I am experiencing is different than what others may.
farmerboy
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smallpotatosan
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pretty much summed up my feeling towards xbox as well. they lose the potential customers like me by running marketing like this. But you said it previously. Xbox has to do it to retain the position. Their #1 goal is to keep the diehard fans with them for another gen. I think it’s pretty effective. It also explains why they hang around with dealer and timdogs
StreetsofBeige
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Good luck getting an answer. I bet Sony and Gavin don't say a thing and hope this just blows over.
Can someone update me with Demon's Soul.
What I know is it has a 4k 30fps and Dynamic 4k 60fps (not 1440p 60fps)
Now I'm hearing it' doesn't use Ray Tracing but PlayStation.Blog says it uses it.
I'm confuse as I don't always read through the thread.
Unless it meant Dynamic 4k 60fps mode doesn't use ray tracing??
Fidelity=Ray Tracing
Frame Rate=No Ray Tracing
When Sony's own website says yes, but creative director Gavin Moore 2 days ago says no, if I was a betting man, I'd take Gavin's no as being more up to date than a 5 month old summer blurb uploaded by a webmaster.
He even went into details why the game doesn't have it as RT would have to be planned from the beginning.
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Saberus
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Did everyone just skip over what I posted on previous page?
Coulomb_Barrier
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You can't be serious lol. You're trying to make this an issue that one PS5 game has the temerity to not have RT, despite looking like the damn best thing out of anything we've seen on next gen so far?
Who gives a shit, yeh lets hope it blows over, it's a waste of air.
Loxus
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I tend to believe official places before I believe random articles on the internet.
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Three Jackdaws
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Speaking of God of War Ragnarok, when do you guys think we'l seel actual footage? it's coming out a year from now so my guess is before the end of the year. Maybe in the game awards?
sircaw
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Does the game look amazing to you, if there was no ray tracing in it, why did you not say anything about it for a couple of weeks ago, the videos have been out for ages, that tells me you have no idea what ray tracing is or how to spot it in games, so what difference does it make to you now then?
Nothing at all, remember your still getting a ps5 and your going to love and play this game anyway.
you need to find better things to be upset about, i mean how angry are you that xbox has no exclusives on launch day, is that bothering you or is that not a big deal to you.
Come on Dee, Up your trolling game, it's fucking awful.
Loxus
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I'm still waiting to see a Ray Traced game from XBSX that looks better then TLOU2.
But it’s Microsoft so it’s fine, nothing to see here.
Lysandros
Member
Implementing RT in Demon's Souls was so hard that it caused split personality disorder to the developer responsible for it. Joke aside Bluepoint should clarify the situation, this must not be 'that' difficult.
MasterCornholio
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I think there are multiple interviews that state the game has ray tracing. And it's from the same guy that said that it doesn't.
I honestly have no idea what's going on but it seems like there's a pretty big screw up somewhere.
It could just be a mistake and there's multiple types of ray tracing. Everything from lighting, shadows and reflections can be ray traced. What I would like to see is a clear confirmation of what they are using if it does have ray tracing.
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Oddvintagechap
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I dont understand this take. They are a AA studio paid to focus remastering assets. The games are already successful. The job is as simple as finding the right game to remaster. All the extra generational power goes all to graphics. Its literally a PS3 game with PS5 graphics. I find it foolish everytime people suggest the Resogun developers and bluepoint are ideal purchases for Sony. They make no sense.
kyliethicc
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I highly doubt its a 2021 game. Don't get your hopes up. We'll see something next year, maybe as soon as Game Awards. Idk.
Saberus
Member
LOL.... so I'm adding this up as a scientific fact that people don't read previous pages on GAF..
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Mr Moose
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Remake.
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Three Jackdaws
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They did announce the 2021 date and it's not like Sony first parties have a track record like CDPR lol regardless if they were ballsy enough to announce that 2021 date considering the shit show this year has been also likely means they've made significant progress in production which would mean they have footage ready. I guess we'll wait and see.
MasterCornholio
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I don't want to shit on the game but there was a rumor that it's a smaller title. That could help explain why it's coming so soon.
Nope. I see people bringing up tired old shit so I happened to see this a few minutes ago to see if this was posted. I am on here a decent amount but the pages move quick and half of it for me is people talking to themselves so I just skim unless something needs backtraced consequences will never be the same.LOL.... so I'm adding this up as a scientific fact that people don't read previous pages on GAF..
Empire Strikes Back
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You don’t just remake a game like that without talent. They did a lot to ensure it looks next-gen and it plays like a From Software game... You wan’t know why people suggest those studios? Because they have a history with PlayStation, whether from remastering and porting games or putting non-AAA exclusives. If it isn’t clear enough, Sony is more than willing to give big projects to both Bluepoint and Housemarque because of that past.
kyliethicc
Member
Nothing wrong with a port house studio. They're talented for that use. Wouldn't cost much either. Not really a big need tho or course. I'm not sure it matters either way. Sony can just keep hiring them for each job if they want.
And no one thinks that buying Housemarque or Bluepoint would be the equivalent of buying From Software or Kojima Productions, etc. Different.
Venom Snake
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Three Jackdaws
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Not sure about that, if we juice everything out of that teaser which was shown during the Playstation showcase it's pretty obvious it's a sequel to the 2018 game. No way would Sony turn one of their major first party games into a "smaller title". I don't think that was a leak or rumour btw it may have just been someone trying to give an explanation as to why it's coming so soon. Enough from me regarding God of War sequel, I'm digressing from the thread topic lol
travisktl
Member
They make perfect sense. The games they remake were successful at the time, but don’t hold up well today. There’s obviously a huge market for remakes of classic PlayStation games, and Bluepoint is the best at it. They put a lot of time and care into their remakes, and actually make them into what your mind imagined the original game to be. Demon’s Souls is currently blowing people’s minds, and if Bluepoint keeps putting out games at that level, then I don’t see how that could be a bad purchase. Sony could have their own AAA quality remake studio.
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MasterCornholio
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I'm also kind of surprised that it's coming so soon. And really surprised that Spiderman MM and Ratchet are going to release so close to each other. And then we might get Spiderman 2 in 2022 if the rumors hold up. Pretty crazy how they are going to pump those games out.
Maybe it's proof of how easy it is to make games for the PS5?
kyliethicc
Member
We just know nothing about the game. No name, or if its even GoW 2, or just a Miles Morales / Lost Legacy style GoW 1.5 game. We have no idea what it is yet.
Sony usually wait to announce a new game until it AT LEAST has a title. They didn't even manage that yet.
Notice how every new game Sony has announced so far is on this page? Except... GoW. Even every 3rd party game from their 2 big showcases is on their.. but no God of War.
The best PS5 games - new, pre-order & upcoming | PlayStation
Discover the best games to play on PS5 and VR2, including our newest exclusives and exciting indies, out now or available for pre-order.
www.playstation.com
I'm skeptical.
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Three Jackdaws
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Good point, I think it's a combination of multiple factors. I believe that the first party studios are like well oiled machines right now, the past 5 years and the upcoming year including launch titles and launch window are proof of this
Secondly I think Sony did a good job of briefing their first party studios and they likely got development kits before everyone else (this is consistent with rumours and leaks), I also think the graphics engines they are using for these upcoming titles are an "evolution" of the previous ones, bigger and better with newer but optional technologies, this in combination with the ease of development of PS5 as well as the familiar programming model of the PS4 is what has lead to this imo.
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Three Jackdaws
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We just know nothing about the game. No name, or if its even GoW 2, or just a Miles Morales / Lost Legacy style GoW 1.5 game. We have no idea what it is yet.
Sony usually wait to announce a new game until it AT LEAST has a title. They didn't even manage that yet.
Notice how every new game Sony has announced so far is on this page? Except... GoW. Even every 3rd party game from their 2 big showcases is on their.. but no God of War.
The best PS5 games - new, pre-order & upcoming | PlayStation
Discover the best games to play on PS5 and VR2, including our newest exclusives and exciting indies, out now or available for pre-order.
I'm skeptical.
duhmetree
Member
3-3.5 years of development is 'too soon'? The first one took 5 years because they had to reboot the entire series and ran into creative issues.
I'm pretty confident I've heard Barlog say, 'The next ones wont take as long' or something along that nature. The game was in a terrible spot as well. If anyone has not watched, Raising Kratos, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
I'm pretty confident I've heard Barlog say, 'The next ones wont take as long' or something along that nature. The game was in a terrible spot as well. If anyone has not watched, Raising Kratos, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
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duhmetree
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but if we're talking about Rumors and speculation... There's been hints/rumors of Sony working on Konami games...
- Metal Gear Solid reboot
- Silent Hill reboot
What if a FROM style reboot of Castlevania? would there be interest in that? An open-world game. A blend of Witcher and Bloodborne? Sounds like it would work but it'd be a massive project
- Metal Gear Solid reboot
- Silent Hill reboot
What if a FROM style reboot of Castlevania? would there be interest in that? An open-world game. A blend of Witcher and Bloodborne? Sounds like it would work but it'd be a massive project
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DeeDogg_
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its fine? You guys will be bringing up the same thing til the end of the generation. Whenever Sony clearly misadvertises a product, we just sweep it under the rug
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
This is precisely why Ray racing is over rated. Tank performance for what isn’t even perceivable to the people who are looking for it with their magnifying glasses.
PaintTinJr
Member
I love this post
The part I bolded/enlarged highlights that even some of the so called expert eyes that throw shade at things fail to understand your point, because their lack of technical vocabulary to describe the noticeable difference - when there is one - makes the result more important that the technique tick box, and the word they should be using is: coherent.
Is the lighting you see on screen advanced enough? And in real-time does that lighting look coherent to expected lighting phenomena, the material properties involved and the things in motion? The performance mode we've seen of DS would instantly have me answer, yes and yes to those questions from the videos - and Bo's analysis.
If you can easily spot incoherent lighting that detracts from the presentation while playing, then maybe a lack of X lighting technique - say accelerated RT - should have been used and consider against lowering resolution and frame-rate.
When we see the fidelity mode of DS, were are probably going to be a bit harsher when looking at the amazing visuals of the performance mode, and that is normal IMHO, because the visuals on the DS remake look so impressive that only by showing higher fidelity of the same can we easily appreciate what is missing.
As for why all this uncertainty is happening about DS, I feel that Sony are trolling us with it. It is a great discussion point, because you really can't draw attention to the game (in a positive or negative way IMHO) without 99.9% of people just being really impressed, it would be 4D chess marketing in my book.
MasterCornholio
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DeeDogg_
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Your triggered game is on point. And what a waste of text since my issue is with false advertising, not how pretty the gwaphics are
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
How would you connect the average Bluetooth headset and not suffer unplayable latency?
DarkParadise
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