sojuwarrior
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I said "bottoming out at around 1080p", that was the exact wording Alex used in the video.
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DF - Assassin's Creed Valhalla: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S Next-Gen Comparison!
Sleepwalker
Member
Alright, so I'm getting this on the PS5 then.
kretos
Banned
megreotsugua
Banned
Bloody Microsoft shills!
Alex Buntallion cannot shill for MS here. It would look really bad on him.
Andodalf
Banned
ethomaz
Banned
You will be fine if the option to fix it to be a drop in resolution to 1080p?
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Agreed. MS has egg on its face for sure. I think they will get it worked out sooner than later, but right now it's poor optics.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
But this is well known stuff honestly, that's due to how DX operate. Draw calls was always problem
Basically this is why Xbox have always higher clocks. Possible improvement is with tools, I know I am beating dead horse, but to what extend. It's short segment, recommended watch.
Mr Depressed Socks weeping somewhere, because
NXGamer
war right : )
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I wonder why the devs did not use vertical synchronization or something to deal with screen tearing. I mean vsync was used to deal with that no? It is even an option in various games.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
PS5 costs $400. $100 amortized over 7 years is nothing. Hell, even $200 for the XBSX is well worth it.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah. i found that odd too. the ps5 goes down to 58 fps once or twice during that section but then again the xbox version dips to 46 at its worse.
60 vs 48 = 25%
58 vs 46 = 26%
I dont understand how he is doing his math. If anything the PC is virtually locked at 60 fps while dropping frames maybe once or twice during that 30 second scene where as the xbox literally sits at 47-48 the entire time.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
im not an armchair analyst. I am a software developer who works on 3d applications ( mostly medical now)and hobbies with game development.
but none of that matters when I just clearly pointed it out in the image. you can see more detail in the XsX dof on the same bitmap grass at the same distances. you can even see it ont he tree shadow.
ethomaz
Banned
NX or VG said they are using adaptive VSYNC but it doesn't work with you drop framerate below 60fps.
CAB_Life
Member
XSS performance is impressive, tbh. No idea what’s going on with XSX, but still too early to call an entire generation in Sony’s favour. With better tools, you get better performance and Sony’s tool were way ahead—and will continue to improve. We‘ll see if MS can make up for these minor variances if/ once they get their SDK to a better state. I also wonder if arranging programming standards for two machines instead of one hasn’t become a bit of a “make work” project for them.
It’s also possible that Sony’s machine tops out faster or mid-way through the gen, too, which could be an interesting scenario. I’m excited to see how they both stack up when my PS5 arrives whenever it arrives, although I only have one HDMI 2.1 on my Samsung Q80T, so the best machine gets that
It’s also possible that Sony’s machine tops out faster or mid-way through the gen, too, which could be an interesting scenario. I’m excited to see how they both stack up when my PS5 arrives whenever it arrives, although I only have one HDMI 2.1 on my Samsung Q80T, so the best machine gets that
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So this is 2020's, "Wait for DX12" from 2013?
Krappadizzle
Member
It would make more sense to say the bloom coming off the snow in the PS5 version is washing out those bushes than to say it has lesser dof. Even your post show how little bloom is coming off the snow in the XsX because it's covered in shadow.Okay last post because I see this going on and on and on.. look below at the background grass. its way blurred out. some parts barely show on the ps5 version. Thats a lesser DOF setting. even the parts that have the same brightness or shadow.
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It's pretty easy to chalk this up as a win for the PS5 version UNLESS you have a VRR TV, which I'd bet most people don't have. G-sync/Freesync solved these screen tearing issues YEARS ago. As it stands, PS5 squeaks out a victory. And while I do think it's a good looking game, it's not really blowing me away as a "next-gen" title either. But just like with Unity, I look forward to seeing the Anvil Next engine actually start doing next-gen, which we probably won't see for at least 1 more AC game.
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Gudji
Member
Thanks for the input armchair analyst.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I get things are looking dire for team Green but are things that desperate you need to compare next gen Xbox hardware with 7 year old stuff to make the next gen Xbox products look good?
Allnamestakenlol
Member
balls of snow
Member
It does. Upload saves goes to ubi connect.
Agnostic2020
Member
No I can not . U r just imagining and they have seen the file portfolio. They r identical in setting
Redlancet
Banned
Well, you are wrong
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Then what is vsync used for?
megreotsugua
Banned
Based on what they said, that is good performance by xbox series x.
Imagine if it was an example of a bad performance. How low would that fps go? Good thing devs can already extract harness xsex this early.
sircaw
Banned
congrats to Mark Cerny on the successful rollout. You won round 1.
It does sounds like SX version needed more time. I suspect Ubisoft MS team have to split work on SS and SX.
While their Sony team can concentrate on PS5 only, not to mention the better tools provided.
Round 1, this is a beatdown, a Knock out punch, this is some Roy jones jnr beat down and dance moves going on here from Sony.
After all the rubbish about 12 tflops, the beast, it's more like the taming of the shrew.
Where is your 30% better performance that xbox was meant to have, its 15%+ in favor of sony in parts of that video?
That's almost 50% off what you said it would be. 50 fucking % more dude. You call that a round 1. What kind of boxing matches do you watch.
You spent months waring, talking rubbish, spreading lies and fud.
You earned this knock out, this beat down, its all on you
ethomaz
Banned
VSYNC is used when you have framerate over your screen refresh rate.
Most apps disable VSYNC when the framerate can't reach the refresh rate of the screen... that is what they call Adaptive VSYNC.
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Andodalf
Banned
Why does when it came out matter? Sony is selling a 300$ console. MS is selling a 300$ console. If anything you just made a great argument for Sony having a terrible value at that price point for me, thanks!
sojuwarrior
Member
and they called Series S's performance disappointing...
30yearsofhurt
Member
A rising tide lifts all boats...
Portugeezer
Member
Bea5t
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Did some math in the other thread and it seems the Xbox might need to drop to 1200p in this area to make up the 25% gap in framerate AND eliminate tearing.
They will need to drop resolution by 30% in order to gain 30% more framerate to be over 60 fps at all times in order to avoid tearing.
30% of 1440p or 3.6 million pixels is 2.5 million pixels which is just over the 2.1 million pixels 1080p has.
If I had to guess, a resolution drop that low is probably something MS wasn't ok with and told the AC team they had to stick with 1440p as the minimum and that is whats causing issues.
They will need to drop resolution by 30% in order to gain 30% more framerate to be over 60 fps at all times in order to avoid tearing.
30% of 1440p or 3.6 million pixels is 2.5 million pixels which is just over the 2.1 million pixels 1080p has.
If I had to guess, a resolution drop that low is probably something MS wasn't ok with and told the AC team they had to stick with 1440p as the minimum and that is whats causing issues.
DonkeyKong
Member
I agree with this, they got to patch his surely
ethomaz
Banned
I believe it easier to set the minimum to 1080p (instead 1440p) and let the DRS do it work.
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Blood Borne
Member
Series S is a disappointment. It is not next gen. Just add £100 and get PS5.
Riky
$MSFT
Next-gen has arrived,
This is going to be Good, lets see what Sonys custom silicone has to offer.
Better engineering always wins.
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Ouch, that video is painful to watch,Riky DONT WATCH IT.
Yep, Mark Cerny is a fucking Genuis, no doubt about it.
To get to parity is all sony fans wanted but to actually be beating the Xbox by up to 15% in some areas, that's insane.
I watched it, I blame Ubisoft not the machine as it's clearly in certain circumstances. However not a big deal for me for one reason.
VRR, like they said it's a game changer
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"I don't trust NXGamer, I don't trust VGTech, I don't trust every other YouTuber that pretty much has access to the same "tools" to measure these games as DF, waiting for DF!"
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