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DF - Assassin's Creed Valhalla: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S Next-Gen Comparison!
PS5 Digital $400. The XSS is a fantastic value? To me it dosen't...
BlueXImpulse
Banned
They were asking for the DF analysis, and now it isn't good enough?
John Wick
Member
Brilliant spot! Well done, Amazing, wow.......................... This is what we call DesperationOOOFF! DOF is less quality on ps5.
edit : its not about the dark vs light there is clearly more banding, more blobbiness in the ps5 screen. thats a lesser DOF setting.
lol .. he have a youtube channel with 1.46 million subscribers, try again
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Let's be honest, nobody truly cares about that anemic (in 2020) box on a more hardcore gamer forum, other than fanatics who want to carry water for the brand. And for those who say they are buying it for their kids, understandable, even less a reason to care about performance showdowns.
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I feel bad for anyone who got a Series S and fell for MS's promise of 1440p/60. Anyone who knows anything about tech especially in the PC space knew that the Series X and PS5 were already going to be struggling with 4k/60 (as is evident here where none of them even reach it). A 4tf console was hardly gonna reach the 1440p target and it's now relegated to 1080p/30fps on next gen titles. So much for next gen
Vognerful
Member
I don't get what you are trying to say.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
They said 'wait for Digital Foundry'. We've waited and the results are the same as NXGamer and VGTech, unsurprisingly.
What would be more interesting is DF thoughts on a possible Series X hardware/design bottleneck that lets the PS5 outperform it in all these gMes so far.
The 'late tools' excuse was debunked by the Dirt 5 technical director.
What would be more interesting is DF thoughts on a possible Series X hardware/design bottleneck that lets the PS5 outperform it in all these gMes so far.
The 'late tools' excuse was debunked by the Dirt 5 technical director.
DarkParadise
Member
Genuine question:
Why do people seem to hate Alex? As far as i know, he never fanboyed about Xbox, he is mostly a PC guy, isn't he?
Why do people seem to hate Alex? As far as i know, he never fanboyed about Xbox, he is mostly a PC guy, isn't he?
yurinka
Member
DF confirming ACV performs better on PS5, Giant Bomb saying Watchdogs Legion and No Man's Sky run smoother on PS5... time to hide in the bunker.
And well, outside that there's the loading times, gamepad features, quick resume, etc. Which I think at first sight may be less important than horsepower, but differences here will be noticiable for the average player than the horsepower diffences in both theorical peaks or real world results.
In addition to stream data from the SSD way faster, and better memory management, PS5's GPU frequency is 22% faster. The extra teraflops (which are a theorical peak for some tasks, not a real world performance indicator) gives a lead in some GPU tasks, but PS5 has a lead in other GPU tasks. PS5 may have a lower theorical peak horsepower, but seems more optimized to achieve results closer to its potential than Series X. Which results into basically the same perfomance, with some small benefits for one or the other here or there.
And well, outside that there's the loading times, gamepad features, quick resume, etc. Which I think at first sight may be less important than horsepower, but differences here will be noticiable for the average player than the horsepower diffences in both theorical peaks or real world results.
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Dodkrake
Banned
The only difference on those pictures is around color. Nothing else. Draw distance is the same.lol .. he have a youtube channel with 1.46 million subscribers, try again
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Ass of Can Whooping
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lol .. he have a youtube channel with 1.46 million subscribers, try again
GAMER SNACK | جيمر سناك
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IShowUBasics
Member
Wait did people really think the series s would run games in 60 fps? How would that be possible. No matter the similar cpu it still has only 4 TF which means simplified it could render around 33% of pixels of xbox series x each second. so if the xbox series x hits 1440p 60hz the lowest in a game the series s would hit around 1170p 30fps which is around those 33%. They would have to half that resolution again to around 800p to hit 60fps
Hendrick's
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I have a VRR tv and even I think it's a bullshit solution. Though, I don't think DF is saying that here either. They clearly state it is not an acceptable fix.
vpance
Member
Difference is 15% here. But in the other gif, the difference is 25%.
Alex is using the difference in this scene when talking about the much larger 25% difference in this other scene. Par for the course for him.
The actual gap could be like 30-35% since PS5 is capped to 60 too. Damn.
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waquzy
Member
The only good thing about the Series S is the SSD, everything else is rubbish, no wonder it costs £250.
Andodalf
Banned
Any one who says that anything about PS isn't the best ever is labeled a demon by PS only guys.
megreotsugua
Banned
Very disappointing for XSX. I want to play the game and I'm not sure which version to buy as I suspect that an XSX patch will be released.
I can't believe Microsoft said the game would play best on XSX. Something fishy is going on.
Does AC Valhalla use any of the Dualsense features?
I can't believe Microsoft said the game would play best on XSX. Something fishy is going on.
Does AC Valhalla use any of the Dualsense features?
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
The game isn't particularly well optimized on either Xbox. In fact, it's a bit of a mess on PC at times too, my 2070 Super see's frame rate drops all over the place at 1440p.
Unless you have a TV with VRR, PS5 is definitely the definitive place to play Valhalla - but hopefully a patch fixes up the Xbox versions because the hardware is more than capable of doing better than this.
Unless you have a TV with VRR, PS5 is definitely the definitive place to play Valhalla - but hopefully a patch fixes up the Xbox versions because the hardware is more than capable of doing better than this.
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BlueXImpulse
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Why wasn't VRS used for the XSX version of the game? It would have saved on performance and maybe would have resulted in a locked 60. But then the picture quality would be worse than what we see on PS5.
Quantum253
Member
So outside of bugs and everything. The "Xbox Series X performing, at it's worst, 15% slower then Playstation 5 at the Same Resolution in areas where they're both under performing." Sounds like the performance dips occasionally for both systems in different areas. That after Boss battle, where the frames dip and screen tearing looks bad, but I'm wondering if this is more on Ubisoft than on Microsoft? I would think these things will and can get patched out. In other words, is a launch Ubisoft game, generally rife with bugs and un-optimization, a good benchmark to test incredibly close performing systems?
DMC5SE isn't multiplatform?
Hezekiah
Banned
I could totally see Microsoft subsidising that. Sounds like they need it right now
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ethomaz
Banned
Guy tries to sofre a point about draw distances.
Shows pics with the same draw distances.
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skneogaf
Member
I thought this game would be okay at 1080p 60fps on series S.
Microsoft needs xbox series x to consistently beat ps5 for either resolution or fps or preferably both for Microsoft to take customer's from Sony and thus far its not just not doing it.
When is this updated tool software being unlocked or something as neogaf will be way too one sided until this is released (if true)?
Microsoft needs xbox series x to consistently beat ps5 for either resolution or fps or preferably both for Microsoft to take customer's from Sony and thus far its not just not doing it.
When is this updated tool software being unlocked or something as neogaf will be way too one sided until this is released (if true)?
BlueXImpulse
Banned
Even if I give you DMC. It becomes
XSX - DMC
PS5 - CoD, Valhalla, No Mans Sky, Watch Dogs Legion
Vaztu
Member
I can see this as the new narrative from the Xbox side. For which, we still have yet to see full use of Geometry Engine and I/O System. So, PS5 won't be peaking anytime soon.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The funny thing is the differences in performance in some scenes is larger than the on paper tflops advantage people expected Series X to enjoy. But it's the PS5 with the advantage!
megreotsugua
Banned
Nah I was just taking a piss. DF said the xsex's is a good performance (for what it is). Now imagine if it was performing bad because of the tools?
Mr Hyde
Gold Member
Not a good look for Microsoft and their marketing.
"Valhalla plays best on Xbox" their social media team was preaching out just before launch. I wonder how they feel now?
I knew the power narrative would come back and bite them in the ass. And honestly, they deserve it, they haven't exactly done the humble approach with the Series X and it can't even deliver when it counts.
"Valhalla plays best on Xbox" their social media team was preaching out just before launch. I wonder how they feel now?
I knew the power narrative would come back and bite them in the ass. And honestly, they deserve it, they haven't exactly done the humble approach with the Series X and it can't even deliver when it counts.
Riky
$MSFT
I wouldn't, the One X version has a magnitude more tearing than the Series X version even at 30fps. If you've actually played both versions like I have it's clear the Series S version is far superior to all the last Gen consoles.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Good point. Don't know why MS marketed the XSS that way.
SlimySnake
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ethomaz
Banned
Is it the bargain phase?
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Codeblew
Member
We don't even know what framerate the PS5 would be getting there if the framerate was uncapped. The delta could be much larger.
DarkParadise
Member
Isn't it also kinda fanboying a little, when people say they expect bigger differences between both consoles, once the tools of Xbox are "ready"? Like shouldn't we happy that both consoles perform mostly the same, and it ultimately doesn't matter where you play? Why would you want bigger differences between the two in the future?