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[The Day It Snowed]

That doesn't excuse to leave the next generation of console with the same graphic. It's 7 fucking years and they haven't the time to port it. Morons.

I'm guessing it's harder than just hitting "export next gen port" and they were crunching to get these versions out as it was.

 

[xacto]

* Just started the game - the resolution is so low that you hardly can see any details on face in character creation. It looks like something reconstructed to 1080p.

* HDR does not work on my Q9FN - it just washes out colours.

* some effects are so fucking bad that they looks like a bug (below you can see a shadow of a character that is in front of a car in which V sits - so he is fairly close to the camera)

EDIT 1:
Turning off CA, DoF, Blur and Grain helped a lot to clean the image.

EDIT 2:
After some more play
* game is supper smooth. Have not seen a single frame dropped

* pop-up is pretty bad. The general pop-up is really ps4ish but this is to be expected but there are a lot of cases of some kind of "bugged" pop-up - where shadows/textures like graffiti etc are disappearing if you move further than 1m from object.

* I think 3D audio (and audio in general) is phenomenal, like in the first 30 min I got fooled a few times by turning my head to check WTF was this (honking and sirens especially). Never happened to me before in other games.



This game... should not be released looking like this.

A little while ago, people were sending death threats for delaying the game. Oh, the irony...

 

[papeipa]

Xbox Sx is definitely better in framerates and fidelity, but the game as it is, is shit. Better wait for next gen patches.
Stop spreading fud, fps scene by scene is almost identical, on busy roads they both suck.

 

[thelastword]

I nearly spat out my coffee.

You're talking about the same Dice who took years (I'm not even sure if they even did) to eventually fix the rubber banding stutter in Battlefield 4 on the ps4. Battlefield 4 was basically a broken unplayable mess for months & months after release (sweet memories of stuttering around conquest maps...).

Noted on the MP, but I was talking SP and BF4 was a beautiful 60fps game at launch........Cyberpunk is not an MP game...

 

[BuffNTuff]

They shouldn't? People doesn't care about the tech reasons behind, it's their fault and they should handle better the situation. They said it's thanks to the console if they have had the big revenue needed for The Witcher 3 (their word) and suddenly fuck them, we code the next game to run at the best on pc? I don't get it.

if I had to guess, it’s not because they’re coding it to run best on pc. It’s because their tech stacks are running on last gen processes and the “next gen” features we see on the pc version are absolutely awful (from a technically elegant perspective) and the pc version is the only place that you can just brute force your way through it enough to be playable. Think of the next generation features on pc as a minimally viable feature set rather than something that was given a huge amount of care and priority.

the reason they need extra time to release a next gen patch later is most likely to refactor much of these next gen features for performance to so they can actually run elegantly on next gen consoles without destroying the frame rate.

 

[Krisprolls]

Resolution seem higher on ps5

Yes, resolution is higher on PS5 (apparently 1200p vs dropping to 1080p on XSX) and framerate closer to locked 60 compared to XSX, in performance mode obviously. Same result as in most games so no surprise here.

 

[assurdum]

I'm guessing it's harder than just hitting "export next gen port" and they were crunching to get these versions out as it was.

I think the whole situation was just handle terribly and that's it. Nobody asking to have more crunch, it's not that the complaint.

 

[Visual Rhino]

I'm waiting for the actual ps5/XSX versions of the game before I touch it.

 

[The Day It Snowed]

I think the whole situation was just handle terribly and that's it. Nobody asking to have more crunch, it's not that the complaint.

I don't care about crunch, if they don't like it they can quit, just saying there probably wasn't enough asses on the seats to do a next gen optimisation considering they barely got this version out.

 

[Sun Blaze]

GTA V performed better on old hardware: PS3/360

If Rockstar and ND can do it, why can't CDPR?

Do what? Back then frame rate and resolution wasn't nearly big as a talking point it is now, but GTA V ran like dogshit compared to our current standards.


Regular dips into the low 20's and utterly incapable of maintaining 30fps. No different from Cyberpunk.

Also, before the PS4/X1 gen, no one cared about fps and resolution. Go back to that gen and marvel at how many games ran at sub-HD res and failed to maintain anything resembling a stable 30fps.

 

[-MD-]

My hype died like 5 years ago so between that, not being able to find a 3080 and knowing it'll be in a much better state 6-12 months from now I have no problem waiting.

 

[MadAnon]

I'm smelling a juicy Crowbcat video coming.

 

[Krisprolls]

The framerate is utter shite in places on Series X. I know there are people in their Sony underpants (85% of Gaf prolly) saying its running perfect on PS5 but I find that hard to believe. Go to the market area and check it there, it's awful. I dont care too much that it looks blurry as its a last gen game and I expected that, I would expect it to hit 60fps with ease on the new consoles. I'm hoping patches can fix that because the game does look really good otherwise.

Yes, framerate tanks pretty bad on XSX, someone posted a video, it goes down to 30s and stays in 40s in crowded places.

PS5 is closer to stable 60 but we need a full vgtech analysis.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

few minutes playing on ps5 and yeah, will wait for patch

 

[assurdum]

I don't care about crunch, if they don't like it they can quit, just saying there probably wasn't enough asses on the seats to do a next gen optimisation considering they barely got this version out.

You should. Crunch is an awful practice

 

[The Day It Snowed]

You should. Crunch is an awful practice

So is child labour, I bet nearly everything you own has been built by a 7-year-old.

Ain't gonna stop me buying stuff though bro. Life's too short to worry about shit you can't control.

 

[Hendrick's]

You should. Crunch is an awful practice

Clearly this game needed more crunch.

So is child labour

Poor comparison. Those children don't have a choice. Crunch is simply mandatory overtime. Something people with real jobs who work hard have been doing since jobs were invented.

 

[Krisprolls]

Xbox Sx is definitely better in framerates and fidelity, but the game as it is, is shit. Better wait for next gen patches.
Stop spreading fud, fps scene by scene is almost identical, on busy roads they both suck.

Lol you wish but no. Like in every game, ps5 has slightly better res and framerate. Your video doesn't even have a fps count. Look some pages above, you've got a video with fps counter on XSX, it drops to the 30s and rarely go 60 with crowds.

 

[Mr Moose]

day one patch is already out

110GB looking like that? My copy arrives today but can't help feel

 

[waquzy]

Do what? Back then frame rate and resolution wasn't nearly big as a talking point it is now, but GTA V ran like dogshit compared to our current standards.


Regular dips into the low 20's and utterly incapable of maintaining 30fps. No different from Cyberpunk.

Also, before the PS4/X1 gen, no one cared about fps and resolution. Go back to that gen and marvel at how many games ran at sub-HD res and failed to maintain anything resembling a stable 30fps.

Stop making excuses for CDPR
Another example:
RDR2 on base PS4/Xbox One runs like a heaven compared to CP 2077

 

[The Day It Snowed]

Poor comparison. Those children don't have a choice. Crunch is simply mandatory overtime. Something people with real jobs who work hard have been doing since jobs were invented.

I mean I give equally as little shit about folks in Poland crunching on Cyberpunk and the 5-year-old in China who is building my GPU, so that explains me putting so little effort into my comparison

Basically my world revolves around me and I'm fine with that.

 

[Shmunter]

More PS5 play through....

 

[Sun Blaze]

Stop making excuses for CDPR
Another example:
RDR2 on base PS4/Xbox One runs like a heaven compared to CP 2077

No one is making excuses. You said Rockstar managed to make GTA V run well on last gen consoles when it runs like crap, so they are just as guilty as CD Projek Red.
As for RDR2, the game came out 2 years before the next-gen (current) consoles, so I have no idea why you're even bringing it up.

 

[Methos#1975]

PS5 is running smoother than XSX and that’s a fact, it’s because the PS5 has lower resolution (1260p) whereas the XSX is at 1440p. That makes all the difference. That’s my initial impression!

It's not a fact, it's an opinion that isn't based on anything objective other than you saw some vids. I've played over 6 hours on the XSX now in performance mode and haven't noticed any frame drops, it's been pretty smooth as butter.

 

[thelastword]

Xbox Sx is definitely better in framerates and fidelity, but the game as it is, is shit. Better wait for next gen patches.
Stop spreading fud, fps scene by scene is almost identical, on busy roads they both suck.

That foliage is just straight awful.....Very blurry game, low rez shadows, drab textures masked by CA....Buildings etc don't pop and don't have that ATD you see in the best open worlds of last gen.......Some weird stuff happening with background buildings. Lots of the areas you visit are vacant and devoid of many NPC's......This is no GTA relative to density and a living breathing world.....

 

[.hacked]

How long till that next gen patch? Playing on XSX and not very impressed. Might just put a pin in this one till update...

 

[Lister]

if I had to guess, it’s not because they’re coding it to run best on pc. It’s because their tech stacks are running on last gen processes and the “next gen” features we see on the pc version are absolutely awful (from a technically elegant perspective) and the pc version is the only place that you can just brute force your way through it enough to be playable. Think of the next generation features on pc as a minimally viable feature set rather than something that was given a huge amount of care and priority.

the reason they need extra time to release a next gen patch later is most likely to refactor much of these next gen features for performance to so they can actually run elegantly on next gen consoles without destroying the frame rate.

You console gamers sure are delusional arent you.

Elegantly running. Shut up.

 

[CAB_Life]

It's remarkably ugly on consoles. I'd expect the next gen patch to improve things, somewhat, but I wouldn't hold our collective breaths for a miracle given how taxing the game is on PCs to achieve good visual fidelity.

 

[Heisenberg007]

They did show console footage though

This is PS4 Pro footage. They never showed PS4 footage, AFAIK.

 

[Kadayi]

This is PS4 Pro footage. They never showed PS4 footage, AFAIK.

Base PS4 here: -

 

[MadAnon]

I've no idea what games people who claim this game looks next gen have played. If these are top of the line graphics then Deus Ex: Mankind Divided was ahead of it's time.

The game looks ok. Nothing groundbreaking.

 

[ne1butu]

I don’t get how they have not got next gen patchs ready for launch. It’s not like they have been spending all this time fine tuning it for the base consoles.

Also how the fuck could they launch it in that state. Guess they don’t give a shit about their reputation

 

[waquzy]

No one is making excuses. You said Rockstar managed to make GTA V run well on last gen consoles when it runs like crap, so they are just as guilty as CD Projek Red.
As for RDR2, the game came out 2 years before the next-gen (current) consoles, so I have no idea why you're even bringing it up.

It doesn’t run like crap though, when compared to CP 2077

 

[thelastword]

How long till that next gen patch? Playing on XSX and not very impressed. Might just put a pin in this one till update...

After all this time and the next gen patch is not ready......Cyberpunk has been in development for so long and the next gen consoles have had dev kits out for quite some time too....

 

[Heisenberg007]

Base PS4 here: -

Yeah now there's plenty of videos, but the point was that CDPR never showed base console footage (PS4 / Xbox One) prior to launch.

 

[Sun Blaze]

It doesn’t run like crap though, when compared to CP 2077

And since you have a frame tool in handy, I suppose you can back up the assessment?

They both run like turds, so your whole "bu bu but R* did it with GTA V" is out of the window.

Don't care which runs better, they are both far below our current standards. Nobody noticed with GTA V because no one paid attention to fps and res outside of PC gamers in 2013.

 

[Kadayi]

Yeah now there's plenty of videos, but the point was that CDPR never showed base console footage (PS4 / Xbox One) prior to launch.

Oh, I thought you wanted some footage I didn't realise it was a whine.

 

[papeipa]

Come on guys...... There's no side to side comparison that xsx drops to 40 and ps5 has rock solid 60.Only if you are fan boy you claim that.
Because is bc of the ps4 pro and x1x versions they both have similar resolutions with sx have 16xA which is how bc works with a little bit higher resolution. Frame rate wise they both look the same.

 

[MonarchJT]

The video he posted under the ps5 in that tweet is the game running on base ps4 before the patch . He took that video from ps4 gameplay issues of someone else and just said it is ps5 version . Meaning a troll

wut was for the part where the game will run better on ps5. no.

 

[BuffNTuff]

You console gamers sure are delusional arent you.

Elegantly running. Shut up.

yeah because 30 tflops running some souped up last gen shit at 1080p with 100% utilization is DEFINITELY elegant.

 

[Vae_Victis]

Do what? Back then frame rate and resolution wasn't nearly big as a talking point it is now, but GTA V ran like dogshit compared to our current standards.


Regular dips into the low 20's and utterly incapable of maintaining 30fps. No different from Cyberpunk.

Also, before the PS4/X1 gen, no one cared about fps and resolution. Go back to that gen and marvel at how many games ran at sub-HD res and failed to maintain anything resembling a stable 30fps.

Sorry, but this is NOT as bad as Cyberpunk.

GTA 5 is around 27-28 frames, and it goes down to 25 with short dips in the low 20s during intense actions. It's poor, but it's not unplayable.

Cyberpunk on PS4 seems a couple of frames worse than GTA on average, but on XOne it stays at around 20 fps or barely above at its baseline, and during action sequences in the open world it has sustained dips down to 15 fps, even when basically nothing is happening on screen.



(timestamp at 0:30 if you are on mobile)

15-16 fps is almost twice as slow as 25-28, and due to how visual perception works it's not even a linear scale. The usually accepted threshold for perceiving continuous motion instead of a series of distinct pictures is somewhere between 16 and 24 fps. What I've seen of Cyberpunk on Xbox One is a janky slideshow 90% of the time, and it becomes almost unplayable when you start to fight or things start to move fast in the open world.

This is NOT acceptable for an AAA game, and is NOWHERE as bad as GTA 5 on old consoles.

 

[JLB]

I've no idea what games people who claim this game looks next gen have played. If these are top of the line graphics then Deus Ex: Mankind Divided was ahead of it's time.

The game looks ok. Nothing groundbreaking.

hahahaha, tell another joke please.

 

[waquzy]

And since you have a frame tool in handy, I suppose you can back up the assessment?

They both run like turds, so your whole "bu bu but R* did it with GTA V" is out of the window.

Don't care which runs better, they are both far below our current standards. Nobody noticed with GTA V because no one paid attention to fps and res outside of PC gamers in 2013.

Back then, nobody paid attention to fps? lol, yeah right! I suppose that’s why Digital Foundry made all those comparison videos when it came out so no one would watch them because no one cared about the fps.

 

[oagboghi2]

Stop making excuses for CDPR
Another example:
RDR2 on base PS4/Xbox One runs like a heaven compared to CP 2077

RDR2 isn’t doing anything close to what CyberPunk is doing.

it isn’t making excuses. It’s accepting reality. This is a big game pushing a lot of tech.

I've no idea what games people who claim this game looks next gen have played. If these are top of the line graphics then Deus Ex: Mankind Divided was ahead of it's time.

The game looks ok. Nothing groundbreaking.

You are lying to yourself

 

[MadAnon]

hahahaha, tell another joke please.

On consoles the game looks like a colorful, open world Deus Ex. There's nothing impressive visually.

 

[Resistance100]

Few hours in and the only bug ive seen was part of my car floating while parked. Visuals are OK nothing special no noticiable framerate dips so far for me, its more than playable. Can't wait for the next gen update tho after Spiderman this feels like a big step back for the old eyes

 

[Fbh]

Base PS4 here: -

Holy shit that looks really bad.
If you showed me the final part (in the open area) without context and told me it was some Ps4/Xb1 game running on Switch I'd honestly believe it.

Is there any similar gameplay from the Ps4 Pro? I was hoping that since I only have a 32" 1080p TV it would at least look decent on there.

 

[FunkMiller]

Yeah, this ain’t great on Ps5.

I have no idea about comparisons to other consoles or PC, but I’ve been playing for two hours and... oh boy... this game should not have been put out in this state.

Don‘t go from Ghost Of Tsushima to this, whatever you do. The comparison is horrifying.

Sorry, but CDPR have been stupid, greedy cunts with this game. It clearly needed more time.

 

[JLB]

On consoles the game looks like a colorful, open world Deus Ex. There's nothing impressive visually.

Sure man. Wont discuss, its clear you didnt play the game yet.

 

[oagboghi2]

On consoles the game looks like a colorful, open world Deus Ex. There's nothing impressive visually.

How about this. You post some pics or footage of mankind divided, and I’ll post screens of Cyberpunk.

I mean, come on

Yeah, this ain’t great on Ps5.

I have no idea about comparisons to other consoles or PC, but I’ve been playing for two hours and... oh boy... this game should not have been put out in this state.

Don‘t go from Ghost Of Tsushima to this, whatever you do. The comparison is horrifying.

Sorry, but CDPR have been stupid, greedy cunts with this game. It clearly needed more time.

I hope you event one of the people sending them death threats over their last delay