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[KingdomHeartsFan]

I‘ve played a bunch of them, and you can go ahead and see right on my gamer card. I put Horizon right up there with Burnout 3 And Revenge.

Let’s not pretend our whole gaming record since 2005 isn’t available now.

Sure just ignore the main part of the post where you try to call FH a racer because of its traction/grip.

The quality of the games was never the point of discussion, the point was FH plays nothing like the AAA arcade racers the thread is about. Go ahead and name any AAA arcade racer ever that play even remotely similarly to FH.

 

[Kagey K]

Sure just ignore the main part of the post where you try to call FH a racer because of its traction/grip.

The quality of the games was never the point of discussion, the point was FH plays nothing like the AAA arcade racers the thread is about. Go ahead and name any AAA arcade racer ever that play even remotely similarly to FH.

PGR I did it in the post I made.

Maybe You didn’t realize because of the initials.

Project Gotham Racing.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

PGR I did it in the post I made.

Maybe You didn’t realize because of the initials.

Project Gotham Racing.

Are you kidding me? Your gonna compare PGR, one of the best drifting games when it came out, to FH and its non-existent drifting gameplay? Now I know you have no idea what your talking about.
Also you edited your post and put in PGR after I already responded to it.

 

[mansoor1980]

NFS hot pursuit 2 on ps2 was also fire ,

 

[Kagey K]

Are you kidding me? Your gonna compare PGR, one of the best drifting games when it came out, to FH and its non-existent drifting gameplay? Now I know you have no idea what your talking about.

Now I know you have no clue.

1st you didn’t know PGR now it’s one of the best?

Horizon and PGR carry a ton of the same DNA and I suspect you haven’t played either. Or this discussion would have been ended already.

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Now I know you have no clue.

1st you didn’t know PGR now it’s one of the best?

Horizon and PGR carry a ton of the same DNA and I suspect you haven’t played either. Or this discussion would have been ended already.

They don't carry any of the same DNA lmao, your literally the first person I've seen that says they play similarly XD. PGR was literally put on the map solely because of its drifting and the kudos system, FH has nothing even remotely close to it.

Your just trying to bullshit your way through this by being vague and not giving any real facts, they got the same DNA, wtf does that even mean lmao.

 

[Kagey K]

They don't carry any of the same DNA lmao, your literally the first person I've seen that says they play similarly XD. PGR was literally put on the map solely because of its drifting and the kudos system, FH has nothing even remotely close to it.

Your just trying to bullshit your way through this by being vague and not giving any real facts, they got the same DNA, wtf does that even mean lmao.

Yeah Horizon has no sort of Kudos system to reward driving recklessly, or drifting or wrecking stuff. Not similar to Kudos at all.

Im just making it up now.

Fucking hell.

You built a drift car and race it online? You built a drag car and race it? Have you even raced it?

It has the full kudos system and more, but I expect that you are the expert you’ll tell e I’m wrong, again.

I love being told I’m wrong when I have played the hell out of it and you haven’t touched it.

Let’s compare levels. Fans and car scores.

 

[22:22:22]

I wish Outrun & Sega Rally (360) were BC

Also, let me play (buy) Daytona USA and Virtua Racing on PS4!

And FZeroGX HD on Switch ffs

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Yeah Horizon has no sort of Kudos system to reward driving recklessly, or drifting or wrecking stuff. Not similar to Kudos at all.

Im just making it up now.

Fucking hell.

My god so now your argument is just down to having any kind of reward system at all makes them similar lol. First it was traction and now its just any kind of reward system.

PGR kudo system and FH skill score system are nothing alike, the fact you even make this comparison shows you know nothing about racers. PGR kudo system was all about tying drifts together to build maximum score. The game was built around that and had entire levels centered around drifting around traffic cones to get the highest score. FH drift mechanics are so non-existent that no one associates its score system with drifting.

 

[Kagey K]

My god so now your argument is just down to having any kind of reward system at all makes them similar lol. First it was traction and now its just any kind of reward system.

PGR kudo system and FH skill score system are nothing alike, the fact you even make this comparison shows you know nothing about racers. PGR kudo system was all about tying drifts together to build maximum score. The game was built around that and had entire levels centered around drifting around traffic cones to get the highest score. FH drift mechanics are so non-existent that no one associates its score system with drifting.

I’m not doing this goalpost moving shit. I counter your argument with one and you keep moving it.

There are entire sections of the Hrizon games built around doing the same, and building you Kudos up.

So imagine next it’s not about Kudos.

The fact is if you played PGR and played Horizon, you could see the similarities, you don’t which tells me everything ,and to be honest I’m tired of moving around the plate because you were wrong.

 

[chriskun]

And FZero X HD on Switch ffs

Fixed.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Forza Horizon plays nothing like an arcade racer, the only reason some people even try to classify it as one is because of its world and over the top story not its gameplay.

My god so now your argument is just down to having any kind of reward system at all makes them similar lol. First it was traction and now its just any kind of reward system.

PGR kudo system and FH skill score system are nothing alike, the fact you even make this comparison shows you know nothing about racers. PGR kudo system was all about tying drifts together to build maximum score. The game was built around that and had entire levels centered around drifting around traffic cones to get the highest score. FH drift mechanics are so non-existent that no one associates its score system with drifting.

What's wrong with you?

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

I’m not doing this goalpost moving shit. I counter your argument with one and you keep moving it.

There are entire sections of the Hrizon games built around doing the same, and building you Kudos up.

So imagine next it’s not about Kudos.

The fact is if you played PGR and played Horizon, you could see the similarities, you don’t which tells me everything.

Those sections have nothing to do with DRIFTING. THE KUDOS SYSTEM WAS ALL ABOUT DRIFTING. I can't spell this out and clearer, this is like the 5th time I've had to repeat myself.



Here's how people in FH say to build a big skill score streak, drive into anything they can run over lmao.

 

[Kagey K]

What's wrong with you?

I tried to walk him through it all and the goalpost just kept on moving.

Its fucking stupid at some point.

 

[Kagey K]

Those sections have nothing to do with DRIFTING. THE KUDOS SYSTEM WAS ALL ABOUT DRIFTING. I can't spell this out and clearer, this is like the 5th time I've had to repeat myself.



Here's how people in FH say to build a big skill score streak, drive into anything they can run over lmao.

THERE ARE ENTIRE Sections for drifting in the game. Where you can only get score from drifts. Or speed sections where you can only get score from speed.

How the fuck is this not an arcade racer, by every standard you have set so far?

Ps the Kudos syste, was not about drifting. You got kudos for following the line. Clean passes, driving in oncoming and just being a good racer.

Drift challenges (Similar to Horizon) was the only time you only got Kudos for drifting and nothing else.

 

[Kagey K]

THERE ARE ENTIRE Sections for drifting in the game. Where you can only get score from drifts. Or speed sections where you can only get score from speed.

How the fuck is this not an arcade racer, by every standard you have set so far?

Ps the Kudos syste, was not about drifting. You got kudos for following the line. Clean passes, driving in oncoming and just being a good racer.

Drift challenges (Similar to Horizon) was the only time you only got Kudos for drifting and nothing else.

Look up Hprizon drift challenges and you will see better drifting than all those racers you pine for so much.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Where does Forza horizon sit? It's not simulation but I wouldn't class it as arcade either.

Either way I'm not a fan of racing games in general but Forza horizon 4 is one of my lost player games.

What? Forza Horizon is 100% arcade racing

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

THERE ARE ENTIRE Sections for drifting in the game. Where you can only get score from drifts. Or speed sections where you can only get score from speed.

How the fuck is this not an arcade racer, by every standard you have set so far?

The point was the drifting is so non-existent this is how people resort to building up high skill score. Drifting was the #1 way to build kudos, if we had the data I'd guess out of all the ways to build score in FH drifting is one of the lowest. Comparing the drifting in PGR and FH is like comparing the shooting in Cod and RE. The point wasn't whether or not Forza has any drift challenges in its game.

And now your trying to move the goal-post again to just trying to classify it as an arcade racer when again that has nothing to do with what's being discussed. This seems like a good stopping point since at this point I'm pretty much just repeating myself over and over with replies that aren't even addressing the points I'm making.

 

[Kagey K]

The point was the drifting is so non-existent this is how people resort to building up high skill score. Drifting was the #1 way to build kudos, if we had the data I'd guess out of all the ways to build score in FH drifting is one of the lowest. Comparing the drifting in PGR and FH is like comparing the shooting in Cod and RE. The point wasn't whether or not Forza has any drift challenges in its game.

And now your trying to move the goal-post again to just trying to classify it as an arcade racer when again that has nothing to do with what's being discussed. This seems like a good stopping point since at this point I'm pretty much just repeating myself over and over with replies that aren't even addressing the points I'm making.

Bullshit, if you are interested in arcade drifting there are modes for you, if you are into drag racing there are modes for you if you want to just arcade race. There are modes for you.

Its been nothing but moving pylons and pulling teeth.

You won’t ever admit that it’s a great arcade racer because you will never play it, and I will never convince you otherwise, because it has to be played.

That is the truth of the matter and we should leave it at that.

 

[Miles708]

I agree with the users saying Dirt 5. Somehow i forgot about that. I'm waiting for a complete edition though, hoping it'll come out on ps4.

Without Sega pushing out their arcade games we can clearly say this for arcade racers

At least it's not just a game over.
It's a
GAME OVER YEEEEE-EEEEAH!!!

 

[93xfan]

Really wish we’d get Ridge Racer remasters, if not an entirely new entry that’s true to the originals

 

[pasterpl]

Forza horizon is a king of arcade racers but I wouldn’t mind seeing reboot of the PGR series

 

[Calverz]

I know OP. I tesorted to buying ridge racer 7 on ps3 off ebay. Its AAAMMAAZZZIINNNNGGG
We need more ridge racer

 

[eyesabitdull]

For me Motorstorm Apocalypse was the last great hurah for these games....which I guess is fitting.

Man, it's so sad whenever I think that there isn't a current gen Motorstorm.

Dammit man, it hurts.

 

[relik]

Forza Horizon is definitely the spiritual successor to PGR. Lots of the same Devs I believe. Great games.

Would absolutely love remastered Ridge Racers too. There's a community that still play RR7 on PS3.

 

[Koala Driving a Ferrari]

I know its not "AAA", but did you not like Hotshot Racing?

The overt AI rubber-banding killed that game for me, even though I'm the world's biggest fan of the clean polygon aesthetic and wanted to love it.

 

[mansoor1980]

Forza Horizon is definitely the spiritual successor to PGR. Lots of the same Devs I believe. Great games.

Would absolutely love remastered Ridge Racers too. There's a community that still play RR7 on PS3.

drive club was the spiritual successor to pgr not forza horizon

 

[Calverz]

To be honest i wouldnt class fh4 as an arcade racer. Its like a cross between simulation and arcade. Also i hate open world racers. I dont want to drive for 5 minutes to reach a race. Just give me a grand prix immediately.
We want pure arcade racers! Ridge racer, sega rally, daytona usa, motorstorm.
hotshot racing is the closest iv felt to one.

 

[mansoor1980]

Forza Horizon is definitely the spiritual successor to PGR. Lots of the same Devs I believe. Great games.

Would absolutely love remastered Ridge Racers too. There's a community that still play RR7 on PS3.

drive club was the spiritual successor to pgr not forza horizon

mods plz delete this reply

 

[Zero7]

Xenon Racer is a pretty cool game.

https://images.app.goo.gl/eZxVcpX9F9VpqFA49

 

[mansoor1980]

https://images.app.goo.gl/eZxVcpX9F9VpqFA49

looks ace

 

[relik]

drive club was the spiritual successor to pgr not forza horizon

I never got that comparison really. The handling especially.

 

[Birdo]

The only people to blame for this is the public.

If they actually bought these types of games, they would make more of them.

 

[Zero7]

I never got that comparison really. The handling especially.

I sorta get it, both games gave you points for speeding drifting etc. But that was all they had in common.

Rage Racer and Ridge Racer V are my two fave games of all time. RRV had the perfect feel of an arcade racer, but people were always downplaying it based on the jagged graphics. Considering it was a PS2 launch title and Namco developed the game in less then a year from scratch it was pretty incredible what they managed to achieve.

R4 I just never got the hype behind it, awesome style and soundtrack etc. But the actual gameplay and challenge were dumbed down way too much compared to the other RR titles.

 

[Guilty_AI]

The only people to blame for this is the public.

If they actually bought these types of games, they would make more of them.

i blame licensing fees

 

[mansoor1980]

i blame licensing fees

most arcade racers use non licensed vehicles

 

[Guilty_AI]

moast arcade racers use non licensed vehicles

And those usually don't selll as much as the ones with real cars. Theres the matter of soundtrack too.

 

[mansoor1980]

And those usually don't selll as much as the ones with real cars. Theres the matter of soundtrack too.

this is one aspect which motorstorm handled really well , non licienced vehicles in an awesome game

 

[Uiki]

The only people to blame for this is the public.

If they actually bought these types of games, they would make more of them.

Well.. when stuff like fh4 is being parroted as "the greatest arcade racer ever" what do you expect.

 

[subsmoke]

It sucks that the genre is dead. I really used to enjoy arcade racers back in the day. Burnout and Rush 2049 were some of my favorite games.

Actually it isn't totally dead. We have Mario Kart right? That's basically an arcade racer.

I know its not "AAA", but did you not like Hotshot Racing?

I bought it because someone on a different site recommended it and I didn't like it. Honestly it felt like something the developers threw together in a few months.

 

[SpongebobSquaredance]

And those usually don't selll as much as the ones with real cars. Theres the matter of soundtrack too.

There was Blur. Arcade perfection with licensed cars. The sequel was canceled and the developer shut down.

 

[Little Chicken]

What the world needs is another Outrun game.

OutRun Arcade Online was so good on the 360.

Amazing how SEGA have just left this IP on the shelf.

 

[ACESHIGH]

I'll never understand why EA with all the money in the world doesn't remaster Burnout Revenge and NFS Underground 2. Those are perfect arcade racing games. No need to reinvent the wheel or develop anything. Just nice up to date PC ports with AI enhanced textures they can even be released on consoles and play easily at 4k 60 FPS.

If NFS U2 is a mess due to licenses give me Burnout revenge even without a soundtrack.

FFS Nintendo basically sold a Mario 64 ROM and people ate it up.

 

[SpongebobSquaredance]

Who remembers this one?



I also played the Wii version which is still available (and It was still fun imo, but too slow for my taste and the graphics were pretty dated, to say the least), but the PS3 one was the real deal. Sadly I think it's lost. What a shame.

 

[Terce]

Redout is ace,

Spoiler

Horizon Chase Turbo is ace,

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TrackMania Turbo is ace,

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so is Fast RMX.

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Grid is fun.

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Wipeout Omega Collection is furious despite being just a remaster collection.

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Intertial Drift is surprisingly fun too, better than Hot Shot Racing in my opinion(which is decent too).

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Wreckfest is incredible fun, although not necessarily classic arcade I wouldn't consider it a sim at all.
Speaking off, Flatout 4 isn't great but far from the catastrophe that was Flatout 3.

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Burnout Paradise is still great, so is NfS: Hot Pursuit. Dangerous Driving sucks though.

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Burnout Paradise Remastered PC - First 11 Minutes of Gameplay [4K 60FPS]

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Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered - Gameplay Walkthrough Part 1 (Full Game) 4K 60FPS ULTRA

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Dangerous Driving Road Rage Gameplay (PC Game).

Dangerous Driving Road Rage Gameplay

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TrackMania 2020 is better than turbo in every area, and it's completely free if you don't care about the extra social crap.

More than anything I would love to see a new Extreme G, my favourite series from N64 through PS2 and it just disappeared.

 

[mansoor1980]

Who remembers this one?



I also played the Wii version which is still available (and It was still fun imo, but too slow for my taste and the graphics were pretty dated, to say the least), but the PS3 one was the real deal. Sadly I think it's lost. What a shame.

never even noticed this one , looks fun and the track design is wild

 

[Guilty_AI]

There was Blur. Arcade perfection with licensed cars. The sequel was canceled and the developer shut down.

Yeah, same studio that developed PGR. I'm curious where those devs work nowadays

 

[fart town usa]

My most played game last gen was probably Driveclub. I'm looking forward to GT but it has a more serious style.

I'd love a new DC or motostorm, MS was intense fun.

MotorStorm is great. I put a lot of hours into the very first one and Arctic Edge. I dabbled in Apocalypse but remember being super disappointed. Haven't played the Pacific one.

 

[sainraja]

so is anyone upset that we dont have any flashy arccade type racing games during these last few years , no ridge racer , NFS is shit , and code masters r just milking rally , wreckfest gives me hope cuz it reminds me of destruction derby but other than that there is nothing , wats neogafs take.
a new ridge racer with ray tracing called
RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY TRACERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

You should try out NFS Rivals before completely writing them [NFS series] off. In my opinion, the arcade racing controls haven't been better in NFS until the Burnout/Ghost team started working on them.