Happosai
Hold onto your panties
I'll admit ignorance and leave that one as-is.
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PhoenixTank
Member
There are... or were some strong parallels between how fanboys acted in Gaming and how others acted in Politics. Vastly different stakes, same mentality.
Thanks. I have cliqued like on your post.
T8SC
Gold Member
Especially coming from someone who spams emojis all the time
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
I'm going to Florida in 2 weeks for a mini vacation. I hope I don't come back believing in UFO / alien conspiracy theories likeMaiden Voyage here apparently did
Key West changed me.
Boss Mog
Member
Can you post the reactions you've given? i bet the empathy is at 90%My reactions received in my short time here, just for transparency:
52% Like
28% Laugh
7% Brain
4% Eye
3% Fire
2% Trigger
1% Strength
1% Sun
1% Love
(rounded)
Distinct lack of Love and Sun
OnionSnake
Banned
Sure! Thought about doing it initially but was lazyCan you post the reactions you've given? i bet the empathy is at 90%
Like - 61%
Laugh - 15%
Eye(roll) - 12%
Fire - 7%
Trigger - 2%
Strength - 1%
Love - < 1%
Sun - < 1%
Brain - < 1%
bronk
Banned
I disagree. He doesn't only troll. I've talked games with him plenty. His contributions include making me laugh.
Punished Miku
Member
Seriously. I really only see him in Off-Topic with harmless and funny jokes. I dont honestly get the hate. What threads am I missing?
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
He enjoys pushing people's buttons, and if he sees that he's succesful he'll keep doing it. I can see why people wouldn't like that, but I don't think he's a bad guy.Seriously. I really only see him in Off-Topic with harmless and funny jokes. I dont honestly get the hate. What threads am I missing?
And no, we're not the same person.
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Nothing wrong with alts dude
S'all good
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Weird the account they hit me up on is only associated with NeoGAF
Weird the account they hit me up on is only associated with NeoGAF
haxan7
Banned
He tried to push my buttons a couple times and it just got me all aroused, in a good way. You all need to be more like me
OnionSnake
Banned
And this is why I have my profile private. People be wildin these daysHahahahahahahahahaha
Weird the account they hit me up on is only associated with NeoGAF
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ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Have to let people do things to collect data
OnionSnake
Banned
The amount of people that have outright told me they were trying to deepdive my profile on here is concerning, just imagine what the lurkers are trying to do lolHave to let people do things to collect data
haxan7
Banned
Vain much?
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
People are trying to penetrate your account at all times
Can look at my previous post about people trying to break into one of my random nodes; nothing in it, but hey, curiosity kills us cats
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Your hot dog clit?
OnionSnake
Banned
Definitely odd. Oh well, gaf gives us the ability to make it private to keep peeping toms out.
haxan7
Banned
The mind is the most powerful sexual organ of them all
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
That's true. How often do you imagine you're with me when you're with your gf?
nush
Gold Member
haxan7
Banned
nush
Gold Member
I imagine I am you when I'm with my girlfriend.
LegendOfKage
Gold Member
I think a lot of people disagreed with limiting a topic of discussion on a forum that many felt was a protected space for debate. If memory serves,
Mista
was a Muslim who essentially avoided the political forum due to the sweeping generalizations that could be found there, and his frustration with that. He's hardly Mr far right conservative who wanted an echo chamber, but he still walked away when he saw new rules being put into place.
OnionSnake
Banned
nah man, not sure why either it's not a humble brag I find it very strange. Not sure how to search my post history but I think it was just yesterday 2 people independently made fun of me for having a private profile because they wanted to deep dive my posts for some reason.
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
My personal Discord account which does not touch NeoGAF and is completely public never receives random hateful messages; it is joined to 100s of serversI think a lot of people disagreed with limiting a topic of discussion on a forum that many felt was a protected space for debate. If memory serves,
My spare account, associated only with NeoGaf and another channel, sat around for a while in the GAF Discord before receiving such messages; only after the rules changes in politics did I receive such a message
Take of that what you will, just food for thought
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Problem??
It's comedy gold
Apparently for being a complete shitter, shit head, non-contributor, low class poster on this forum
Somehow
That warrants seeking out my dump account in Discord and sending me angry messages
showernota
Member
Everyone can see everyone’s post history just by searching “by: member.” It doesn’t matter if your profile is private.
That post was the day before yesterday.
Trump and Melania got the vaccine, didn't tell anyone.
Even if Trump was on social media to communicate he had, had the vaccine I’m sure the TDS’ers were find a reason to be outraged. He was probably preparing his defence for impeachment then being concerned about talking about vaccines. You’re not wrong that people would always criticize Trump...
haxan7
Banned
U fuckin weasel
OnionSnake
Banned
Yeah him and someone else said something similar. Very strange, might just be me but when I disagree with someone I don't feel the need to dive through their profile.Everyone can see everyone’s post history just by searching “by: member.” It doesn’t matter if your profile is private.
That post was the day before yesterday.
Trump and Melania got the vaccine, didn't tell anyone.
Even if Trump was on social media to communicate he had, had the vaccine I’m sure the TDS’ers were find a reason to be outraged. He was probably preparing his defence for impeachment then being concerned about talking about vaccines. You’re not wrong that people would always criticize Trump...www.neogaf.com
nush
Gold Member
So what am I going to find? Making your profile private, does absolutely nothing to mask your post history. It only closes your DMs.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I think he's misunderstoodYou sure do love defending him.
seuss af
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
shamelessly stolen but too funny not to share
haxan7
Banned
Dr Seuss just rolled over in his grave
shamelessly stolen but too funny not to share
Peggies
Gold Member
You're such odd little person
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Peggies
Gold Member
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The Hamburglar
Banned
I disagree with some of your first paragraph. Lots of them were 18/19 accounts, so not exactly long term members.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Yeah just some accounts who signed up and kept the forum going while it was on the brink, no big deal, while plenty of "long term members" with a mysterious post-history gap in late 2017 showed up to disparage Evilore and called the forum alt-right, nazis, racist, misogynistic, incels, etc...
The Hamburglar
Banned
I’m just pointing out 2 years isn’t exactly long term members before you start.
Who exactly is calling the forum alt right and nazis other than retards on the cesspit?
I know some of them came to gloat after Biden won and got banned.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
The namecalling has been going on since the 2017 ResetERA split, and before.
The more common accusations -- which you omitted -- were some flavor of "misogynistic", whether that was because GAFers were still posting on a forum run by someone who [redacted accusation] or because people called out so-called "SJW agenda" in journalism and/or in videogames. The other common accusation was and still is "racism", where prominent members have blundered into threads, waved around the "you're a racist" wand, and later turned out to be wrong. Being called a racist on the internet is about as meaningful as being called an n word on the internet, so it's not like I'm complaining, just describing.
Y'know, the last few pages of this thread really shine a light on who is a GAFer and who is hastily putting on the mask. If nothing else, there's a clear distinction between posters who are trying to rubber-glue a new narrative to the wall and posters who actually remember the events of the last 12 months.
This thread -- this specific thread we're in -- was in many ways the "ground zero" for the gatekeeping and cliquishness.
If you didn't happen to know, go back to page 200-300-ish and see how it progressed from there to its current state. Spoiler alert: it's identical to how people are acting in the thread over the past month, just a shuffle of names and political leanings, but the same exact behavior.
Those of you who are now showing up to snatch up the new Meta OT mantle missed this little detail because... well... it's obvious you're just moving into the same territory where the old clique rose to prominence. Oops. Masks slipping again, but no one cares enough anymore.
Merely read back through this thread -- this specific thread we're in -- and you can easily see how this went from a "talk about GAF itself" thread to a "throw in metacommentary to annoy the OP" thread... slowly evolving over time until certain members turned it into a Dear Diary thread where select members would whine about how Nintendo was treated unfairly, or how SonyGAF needed to be put in its place, or how certain members were acting, or how people needed to act as bouncers (e.g. Matt404's cyberbully mantra, which Arcadia picked up and ran with) or some such thing.
Confronting the clique resulted in me getting shrieked at. You can read it yourself:
Meta GAF |ON| Gaf on Gaf
I disagree that cool and collected = thinker. Nobody is more collected than Nobody_Important, yet, nobody would think that suggesting him as a profound thinker was anything but nonsense. On the contrary, he hides behind that persona, twisting words and events to suit his agenda. I'm not saying...
Again, those of you just showing up to mark new territory after this clique left wouldn't know because... well...
But in case I'm coming across as trying to take credit, the inadvertent author of the VirginGAF OT (currently edited out of existence) called THESE MEMBERS OUT, a month before I started to notice, and months before the election results and months before the meltdowns.
Did the staff take note? No. The staff enshrined the post as a joke that should be made fun of.
Now we have trolls trying to re-write history and insert themselves as grieving members of the community. The hypocrisy on display, while obnoxious, is also a pretty good way of shitting on the old clique, I'll admit. The trolls they labored to keep out through sheer muscle and intimidation are now dancing on their graves.
But since GAF is apparently moving away from shitting-on-others threads that spiral and spiral, I wonder how much valuable content these new rising stars will actually contribute to the forum.
As I have mentioned twice already, this history of this very thread tells us the trajectory of those posters. Thankfully, the future of the forum didn't rest on the shoulders of the clique that formed in this thread, nor will it rest on the shoulders of those quickly hurrying into their places. But the forum does need shoulders to rest on, which appears to be the present concern that people are raising.
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ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Punished Miku
Member
I really haven't seen that many people just calling everyone a racist or misogynist on here. Maybe I've missed what you're referring to. People on REE might say that.
Also, remember that we've had at least a few prominent members banned for basically repeatedly posting racist material, usually racial IQ stuff which went on here for years.
Who is a real GAFer then? You're not cliquish at all, but this is kind of gatekeeping I guess, since you started using that word. Who are you upset with in here specifically?
This thread -- this specific thread we're in -- was in many ways the "ground zero" for the gatekeeping and cliquishness.
If you didn't happen to know, go back to page 200-300-ish and see how it progressed from there to its current state. Spoiler alert: it's identical to how people are acting in the thread over the past month, just a shuffle of names and political leanings, but the same exact behavior.
Those of you who are now showing up to snatch up the new Meta OT mantle missed this little detail because... well... it's obvious you're just moving into the same territory where the old clique rose to prominence. Oops. Masks slipping again, but no one cares enough anymore.
Merely read back through this thread -- this specific thread we're in -- and you can easily see how this went from a "talk about GAF itself" thread to a "throw in metacommentary to annoy the OP" thread... slowly evolving over time until certain members turned it into a Dear Diary thread where select members would whine about how Nintendo was treated unfairly, or how SonyGAF needed to be put in its place, or how certain members were acting, or how people needed to act as bouncers (e.g. Matt404's cyberbully mantra, which Arcadia picked up and ran with) or some such thing.
Confronting the clique resulted in me getting shrieked at. You can read it yourself:
Meta GAF |ON| Gaf on Gaf
I disagree that cool and collected = thinker. Nobody is more collected than Nobody_Important, yet, nobody would think that suggesting him as a profound thinker was anything but nonsense. On the contrary, he hides behind that persona, twisting words and events to suit his agenda. I'm not saying...
Like I said above, I never thought you were cliquish or rude to anyone. But you're definitely not the only one that tried to confront these people. I got in tons of arguments with Matt, Arcadia, Brap, and on because they tried to run the forum as their own little special club where they were the anointed ones. I was very public about stating that I thought it was toxic, and was going to drag the forum down.
These kinds of things tend to happen in cycles, but so far I really haven't seen anything like that yet. Still, I think it's good advice for people to try and be on the lookout for that kind of thing and stop it early instead of letting it build and build until they think they run the forum. So yeah, I have no problem with that part of your post. It's similar to advice I've given to people on here generally. Try to just treat everyone equally without any dramatic in-groups or celebrity posters.
A big red flag is when you start seeing completely substance-free threads about certain people's in jokes that aren't really inclusive - like 20 threads on Brap being someone's kid, or MHK (GET ITT) threads. I haven't seen much like that yet. I also haven't seen a new group of people intent on bullying others and putting people down to build themselves up. I see some name-calling and trolling from old users, not new ones usually.
I called them out years ago, and I'm fine if you guys want to give me credit. All I'd ask is maybe people listen next time instead of trash similar warnings when they spring up down the line. But yeah, it's not about either of us. It's just about the health of the forum - and the discouraging of celebrity posters. Celebrity posters always lead to toxicity, bad moderation, and mass exodus. Happened in cycles on here a few times. Every time I called it out, I got mocked by almost everyone as well.
I haven't seen people rushing to fill any void yet, but I don't read this thread a lot. I've just seen in the last couple of pages, people trying to talk about bans because the ban thread is closed. But a new clique eventually will form, and the cycle will continue. So it's fine if people watch out for it more in the future. Basically just treat everyone fairly and equally. Don't treat certain people like they're better than everyone else on the forum, because they're not - and are often actually bad for the long term health of the forum.
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BigBooper
Member
Absolutely. Cliques don't have to have a bunch of people though. The concerted effort of a few people supporting each other regardless of their authenticity can be just as bad as a dozen.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Nah... only if they are mods or have undue influence to get people banned.
As long as the climate allows for them to be called out and ridiculed like anyone else, then they are a net value for any community.
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