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Microsoft/Zenimax acquisition completed (US and EU)
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Interfectum
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I'd say if MS says the games are not exclusive we will have massive Xbox fan meltdown on Twitter. Christ they are already practically threatening Phil now, just wait if they announce the games will come to all platforms. Fucking lunatics.
I think at this point most expect some sort of exclusive deal because it would be pretty dumb of MS to not lock them in... but MS just did try to double the price of Gold so we know they are still capable of making bad decisions even under God Phil.
It should be obvious. I don't like to go to this well, but if Sony or Nintendo had made this purchase it would be absolutely obvious.
The issue is poor communication, a lack of firm direction from Xbox, and meme-level sharing of out of context interviews.
All those things are absolutely faults with Microsoft's delivery of this acquisition.
Everything being exclusive will not be a major surprise to anybody with half a brain. The fact it's not a foregone conclusion is because of the issues Xbox has controlling its image.
Interfectum
Member
Yup, exactly.
There will still be Sony fan 'meltdowns' when MS eventually makes it official no more PS5 games but it will be nothing compared to the alternative of MS releasing games like ES6 on PS5. Xbox influencers on Twitter will probably just delete their account they are so emotionally invested at this point.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
I'd say if MS says the games are not exclusive we will have massive Xbox fan meltdown on Twitter. Christ they are already practically threatening Phil now, just wait if they announce the games will come to all platforms. Fucking lunatics.
I think at this point most expect some sort of exclusive deal because it would be pretty dumb of MS to not lock them in... but MS just did try to double the price of Gold so we know they are still capable of making bad decisions even under God Phil.
I wouldn't expect too much clarity. They love trumpeting exclusivity but later quietly mention its just "launch exclusivity".
They will push exclusivity hard on the PR side, but I'd wait a while before thinking the whole picture is clear and the matter settled.
Interfectum
Member
MS could clear it up right now if they wanted, the fact they are being so cagey about it means there are internal debates still ongoing.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Yup. There''s a lot of money on the table and even more "moving parts" to consider. For instance I could well imagine Starfield being console exclusive because its a new IP, while ES or Fallout I'd consider less certain as they are proven properties.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
The deal is just closing, maybe give it a few days?
Surely you don't believe this, what an absurd statement. This whole business was decided before they even put an opening bid in of any kind, the whole purchase would have needed a business case to allow the board to make a decision on go/no go. They didn't just think:
"should we buy Zenimax?"
"yeah, go on then. What should we do with it?"
"dunno, lets just wing it"
Andodalf
Banned
I know! They should have shared information they legally weren't allowed to have yet! Facing jail time and causing the deal to fall through is nothing compared to the fefes of a Gaffer being hurt!
That's obviously not what I'm saying.
Krisprolls
Banned
I'd say the exact opposite. Heavy hitters cost too much to be exclusive to the small Xbox installed base.
The answer was given by Xbox managers, there's no mystery : "games will be first or best on Xbox", which means for the most part, they'll be available elsewhere, maybe later though. You can't be first if there's no second.
That's a bit of a moot point anyway, there's probably no Elder Scrolls releasing this gen...
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Reality Czar
Banned
Exactly. The wording they have used indicates that they are not planning on holding games back from selling on other platforms. "First or best" is all but admitting the games will be multiplat.
The salt is going to be immense, though. So many people are convinced MS will sacrifice billions of dollars in sales for GP.
Fredrik
Member
Is it really that obvious? I would say that all the signs actually point to them keeping the games as multiplats, I’m just going by the case by case and first or best comments.
I don’t get their thinking there though.They finally have a proper game advantage that would kill the ”Xbox has no games it’s just Halo,Forza,Gears” meme at once, but they’ll probably waste it to not piss off the fans on the competitor’s platform.
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I hope the games are not exclusive. Very happy to see Bethesda games day one on Gamepass but I hope they do not lock off so many great franchises, even if it might be on my preferred console.
LisaMariaMartin
Banned
They won't be exclusive. They will be on PC. Everyone knows that all users on this site have a 3090GTX with 48GB RAM and i10 processor with water cooling.
I think they mean obvious that if this were Nintendo or Sony it wouldn't even be a conversation, the games would be exclusive.
Reality Czar
Banned
"games will be first or best on Xbox"
I don't see the word "exclusive" in that statement. In fact both "first" and "best" indicates that games WILL be coming to other platforms, if "second" and "in lesser quality".
If you go by their literal words they are already admitting the games will be multiplat.
But Xbox stans:
reforen
Member
Maybe the established IPs remain multiplat or a timed exclusivity, but the new IPs should be exclusive is the only way to boost the sell of suscriptions and consoles
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Nobody wants to see a console without games Xbox needs games.
Krisprolls
Banned
Yes, and that's dumb. MS ultimately wants to make Game Pass very profitable. Corporations aren't your friends. They want your money, as much money as possible. Game Pass is just in first phase. The end game is mostly low value games with a few higher budget outliers, and higher subscription price. Look at any other subscription model evolution to read the future.
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100 per cent.
Indiana Jones will probably be multi-plat, and Fallout Shelter 2 (or w/e) will be multi-plat too. There's your case-by-case, even if everything else is exclusive.
First, better or best Is used wildly out of context by people who didn't read the original article, not helped by the fact its a shit quote anyway. He's talking about pulling content, not releasing new content.
He's saying, in the most mealy mouthed way possible, "you'll still be able to buy Fallout 4 on PlayStation, but it's gonna be at 60fps on Xbox".
First, better or best doesn't make any sense whatsoever, so I appreciate why a bunch of untrained journos read it the wrong way and wrote articles about taking it out of context, because it's a god awful quote.
That is fair from a business perspective, but I dont care about that side as much lol gaming is divided enough by console wars and other BS.
Andodalf
Banned
"games will be first or best on Xbox"
I don't see the word "exclusive" in that statement. In fact both "first" and "best" indicates that games WILL be coming to other platforms, if "second" and "in lesser quality".
If you go by their literal words they are already admitting the games will be multiplat.
But Xbox stans:
Don't say shit like this on a new alt you can just delete. Nut up and post in on a real account so we can laugh at you
Javthusiast
Banned
I don't really care for any Bethesda games, never have. But since I have a Series S now and gamepass, I am happy to get the catalogue and new games on it day 1.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah that’s obvious. Why isn’t it obvious for MS though?
How exactly are they planning to get 100 mil PS4 gamers to consider investing in a Xbox Series X instead of PS5?
They don’t even have a performance advantage right now.
And no big 1st party games.
How will they convince someone to swap?
I don’t get it.
I mean why do they think someone like me who only have XSX and PC will buy a PS5?
To get a fast SSD or vibrator controller?
No, it’s all about the exclusives. I’ll buy one to play Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarök and GT7. I’m just waiting for a bigger SSD. If those games would come to XSX I wouldn’t buy a PS5. Simple as that. And I assume PS gamers are thinking the same way, they’re probably waiting on the official plan for Bethesda’s games just to know if they need to buy a Xbox or not.
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I really really hope you don't have your own business, it would go bust in a matter of weeks
Fredrik
Member
I’ll just sigh and go like this:mf like me going full-blown crapgamer if those games arent exclusive
Bryank75
Banned
So Zenimax is officially "garbage anyway" and Wolfenstein, Doom, Fallout, and Skyrim were "never any good" either.
I'd have the imagine the ultimate goal is to make Gamepass available on all consoles, including Sony and Nintendo. While it might seem like thay are sacrificing subscriptions by releasing multiplatform, in reality they are trying to expand the potential subscriber base, imo.
Microsoft doesn't care about gamers switching consoles, they want to come to gamers. I have no idea how possible that might be on the Switch or PS5 but that would be the best way to increase the amount of potential subscribers.
Gamepass will not be able to grow long term if it is only available on PC or Xbox, the Xbox brand name is not strong enough to support it alone.
driqe
Member
how would they grow the xbox brand name tho?
Omni_Manhatten
Neo Member
Again I’ll say it one last time. If you want to profit from a company you don’t take their cost onto your books. The cost for devs. Electrical bill etc. you leave that with them. You buy up to 51% a controlling stake and you allow them to operate as an individual entity. When you want to have control over IP etc you have to purchase them outright and that will allow you to claim exclusive content for yourself.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
I'm more curious as to what sort of impact this acquisition will have outside of platform exclusivity. Like, are Bethesda's Fallout and Elder Scrolls games going to continue to be buggy pieces of shit or will MS funding/policies/resources impact that at all?
Bryank75
Banned
Exactly, that is proper agency theory and aligns all the goals.
Jemm
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if first batch of games coming were multiplatform. If Zenimax releases games in the next 1-2 years, there are likely deals in place for all the platforms, anyway. That would include at least Starfield and games by some other studios,like Arkane or id.
After those contracts are fulfilled, whatever happens with future games (TESVI?) is anyone's guess.
After those contracts are fulfilled, whatever happens with future games (TESVI?) is anyone's guess.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
You know the stakes are high when Krisprolls starts talking to his own sockpuppet
Fredrik
Member
Why not start releasing Gears, Halo, Forza, Fable on PS5 too then? Then we can skip Xbox all together and just have PS5 YAY!
I’m a wizard at strategy games and I can see from a mile away that this is a naive plan and it will fail miserably. It’s not like what Sony is doing when they release their games on PC after two years, which is still risky, it’s as if Sony would release their games day 1 on XSX, that’s dumb.
Andodalf
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I wouldn’t read anything into this. It’s way more likely they just don’t have a game lined up yet.
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