Interfectum
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Companies are purchased with honor tokens in Japan and unfortunately for MS they have no honor.
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Bloomberg: Multiple potential Buyers interested in Square Enix (Debunked: See OP)
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The SE now is just a shadow of what Squaresoft was before the merge. They don't deserve that name.
If Microsoft buys SE I'm probably quitting console gaming
Jaguar Victory
Member
I doubt it's either MS or Sony. Probably EA or Zenimax and that makes me shudder.
Kumomeme
Member
what i know, japan has law that restrict their big firm/company from being acquired by foreigner and last year their MOF even tighten their rules.
www.reuters.com
here is the list of those company that under these law.
square enix indeed in the list.
i do not know much about stuff like this, hopefully anyone who knowledgeble can correct me or explain more about this.
edit: what it mean here, any foreign entity who want to buy stake more than 1% will be subjected to strict pre-screening
Japan tightens rules on foreign stakes in 518 firms, citing national security
Japan announced on Friday a list of its firms subject to tighter foreign ownership rules, including majors such as Toyota Motor Corp <7203.T> and Sony Corp <6758.T>, as the United States and Europe step up scrutiny of industries key to national security.
www.reuters.com
here is the list of those company that under these law.
square enix indeed in the list.
i do not know much about stuff like this, hopefully anyone who knowledgeble can correct me or explain more about this.
edit: what it mean here, any foreign entity who want to buy stake more than 1% will be subjected to strict pre-screening
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Interfectum
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It’ll be Sony.
OptimistPrime
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I’m calling it - if Microsoft get Square and Kojima to complement Bethesda, GamePass will have 50 million subscribers by 2023.
SinDelta
Member
The thought of Dragon Quest in the hands of Tencent or EA fills me with horror.
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Nintendo cant even be bothered to buy intelligent systems, I can't see them ever attempting an acquisition like this
bender
What time is it?
Microsoft will buy SE, rehire Peter Molyneux and let "magic" happen.
Dabaus
Banned
For what it’s worth jez said he doesn’t think ms will purchase SE and he’s one of the more reliable Xbox insiders. So who knows what he’s knows.
With that said I’d like to point out that after the Bethesda acquisition we’ve seen multiple Xbox partner studios decide to remain independent or take offers from other huge corporations in the form of investments. If Xbox aligned studios are unwilling to gobbled up by them why would sqaure, whose basically ignored Xbox for almost 5 years decide to be owned by them? Like let’s say Microsoft offered 12 billion and Sony 10 billion. Wouldn’t it make sense as a business to stick with your actual fan base instead of a couple extra billion in such a scenario? I have no idea but I hope sqaure remains independent.
With that said I’d like to point out that after the Bethesda acquisition we’ve seen multiple Xbox partner studios decide to remain independent or take offers from other huge corporations in the form of investments. If Xbox aligned studios are unwilling to gobbled up by them why would sqaure, whose basically ignored Xbox for almost 5 years decide to be owned by them? Like let’s say Microsoft offered 12 billion and Sony 10 billion. Wouldn’t it make sense as a business to stick with your actual fan base instead of a couple extra billion in such a scenario? I have no idea but I hope sqaure remains independent.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I could see Sony winning even with a lower bid. SqaureEnix probably would love to own/run the Asian territory of a Japanese company like Sony.
LordBlodgett
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This doesn't mean foreign companies cannot buy those firms. Anytime a foreign company wants to buy more than 10% of a Japanese publicly owned company it must be approved. For those 518 the percentage has been lowered from 10% to 1%. If there is a bidding war for Square Enix and only Japanese companies could bid then who would the suitors be? Only Sony has both the cash and interest out of the Japanese companies I can think of.what i know, japan has law that prevent their big firm/company from being acquired by foreigner and last year their MOF even tighten their rules.
Japan tightens rules on foreign stakes in 518 firms, citing national security
Japan announced on Friday a list of its firms subject to tighter foreign ownership rules, including majors such as Toyota Motor Corp <7203.T> and Sony Corp <6758.T>, as the United States and Europe step up scrutiny of industries key to national security.
here is the list of those company that under these law.
square enix indeed in the list.
i do not know much about stuff like this, hopefully anyone who knowledgeble can correct me or explain more about this.
Edit: Actually, I guess Nintendo is always a possibility.....
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TLZ
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Yes I could definitely imagine that on all 2 consoles in Japan.
Kumomeme
Member
i see..thanks for the explaination
longdi
Banned
MS buys them?
MSFT stocks is at all time high.
Like Nvidia, they are looking for big hitting acquistions to keep their shares high.
Phil time at Japan is paying off...
BoxFresh123
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Lets go Devolver
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Shodan09
Unconfirmed Member
I hope it's Microsoft for the ructions. Sony gaf give the best reactions.
reinking
Gold Member
When these big companies go on spending sprees and things settle down there are many casualties along the way when it comes to the studios that were purchased. Also, because consolidation is eventually going to suck for gamers.
The Pleasure
Member
Congrats, you made gaming lame. Back to my vhs collection.FF day 1 on GPU?
DQ and FF are happily in GPU today!
BF day 1 on GPU?
Kojima day 1 on GPU?
We have football games like FM, Fifa, and probably PES soon.
Sega is cosy with Yakuza on GPU.
PC + GPU = omg.
I am ok with this.
SlimeGooGoo
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DeadOblivion78
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It makes more sense for Sony to purchase Kadokawa because of manga and anime but they probably won't.
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DeadOblivion78
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hybrid_birth
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I hope activision doesn't buy them. if so get ready for yearly final fantasies.
I can see it now. Call of Fantasy: Modern Spellcraft.
I can see it now. Call of Fantasy: Modern Spellcraft.
SlimeGooGoo
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Bryank75
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Sony and some other companies have shares in Kadokawa, the reason they do not have to buy them is because they will be so dependent on Sony to distribute their Anime worldwide..
Square is about 70% gaming and the rest is anime, manga, arcade and film. A big part of gaming is mobile too....
They also have over 5000 staff to manage.
It would be several times more complicated than Zenimax and add a language and cultural difference....... it would be a total shitshow for msft.
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Northeastmonk
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As much as I respect Microsoft, they don’t seem to love Square as much as Sony does. Final Fantasy XIII on Xbox 360 was a big move, but not exactly earth shattering for them.
DeadOblivion78
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Oh yeah I bet gamers aren't thinking of the culture differences on how American and Japanese business's are being run. If they were to merge, one would have to dominate over the other.
1) typically the highest bid does win, its hard to tell shareholders that you are doing your duty by accepting a lower offer
2) yes, that Japanese law could block MS but it isn't something that I think Governments want to do to companies of other democratically elected countries. It would cause some weird geo-politics.
I think nothing is going to happen here but if so, maybe Sony will be forced to overpay and they might do for their mobile gaming division.
2) yes, that Japanese law could block MS but it isn't something that I think Governments want to do to companies of other democratically elected countries. It would cause some weird geo-politics.
I think nothing is going to happen here but if so, maybe Sony will be forced to overpay and they might do for their mobile gaming division.
iHaunter
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Then we won't need to have games downgraded on their weak shitty console. I'd say it's a win. Nintendo's by far still the most anti-gamer company right now.
akaFullmetal
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Sad, to see some people rooting for 3rd party consolidation. It just keeps others from playing games, no one gains anything.
Microsoft will definitely try with big money but relationship wise it would make sense with Sony or Nintendo.
Microsoft will definitely try with big money but relationship wise it would make sense with Sony or Nintendo.
Bryank75
Banned
Yeah, it's highly destructive. Doubt they want to sell though!
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Rooting for MS because I want those games to be on PC too.
Lionel Richie
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Sell the Dragon Quest IP to Nintendo and then you do whatever Squeenix. You fucks should have finished Jensen's story before it came to this.
onesvenus
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Bridges
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Hopefully this goes nowhere, we need SE games on more platforms, not less.
Unless things truly are different under this new leadership, I don't see Nintendo going for this.
Sony is the obvious choice but in my head that doesn't make much sense since a lot of their games already launch as PS exclusives, unless they would only be buying them to prevent another 1st party from snatching them.
I don't know that Microsoft is as unlikely as some would like to think. They have a noteworthy partnership right now with Life is Strange/Tell Me Why, Dragon Quest XI S and all the Final Fantasy games on Game Pass, plus Outriders on GP day 1 and allegedly several more SE titles will be coming later as well. If MS can I think they will, but it'll be an uphill fight.
If it's a non-Japanese company that ends up with them, I could see it being Epic. They still have all that Fortnite money and are looking for ways to attract people to their store, and they already paid them for the Kingdom Hearts PC port, I could see them viewing SE's IPs as a foot in the door to get more people using EGS.
Unless things truly are different under this new leadership, I don't see Nintendo going for this.
Sony is the obvious choice but in my head that doesn't make much sense since a lot of their games already launch as PS exclusives, unless they would only be buying them to prevent another 1st party from snatching them.
I don't know that Microsoft is as unlikely as some would like to think. They have a noteworthy partnership right now with Life is Strange/Tell Me Why, Dragon Quest XI S and all the Final Fantasy games on Game Pass, plus Outriders on GP day 1 and allegedly several more SE titles will be coming later as well. If MS can I think they will, but it'll be an uphill fight.
If it's a non-Japanese company that ends up with them, I could see it being Epic. They still have all that Fortnite money and are looking for ways to attract people to their store, and they already paid them for the Kingdom Hearts PC port, I could see them viewing SE's IPs as a foot in the door to get more people using EGS.
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Wunray
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Aren't they already remaking the remake for mobile phone?
that they stole to nintendo