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I can see the upside which is just $$$ and guaranteed marketing but it feels like unlikely honestly
HoodWinked
Member
Ya I think this is unlikely it's not like Konami would sell exclusively to Microsoft. The intrinsic value of the Metal Gear property would be sold to whoever would pay the most but paying the most is in relation to the profit potential for the buyers. Sony has the higher profit potential so they could potentially pay more for it. Microsoft has deeper pockets but has a lower ROI.
Though the thing working in favor of it happening is the continued depreciation of the IP while under Konami so they may feel pressure to sell while its at a high value and Konami likely doesn't have the means to even utilize the IP. It's like having a gold bar while being stranded on an island.
Though the thing working in favor of it happening is the continued depreciation of the IP while under Konami so they may feel pressure to sell while its at a high value and Konami likely doesn't have the means to even utilize the IP. It's like having a gold bar while being stranded on an island.
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plip.plop
Member
Andrew House was the one that brought Kojima to Sony.
honestly no one give a fuck about it , we all know those games will arrive and will have something better on xbox when they will release (you can bet on it). they were just old contracts
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Sw0pDiller
Member
So, it will be a gamepass exclusive then? Clearly a 70 metacritic then, it's a shame... Well good thing this is just a xbox konami begging thread...
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I hope this happens just for the meltdowns.
Kerotan
Member
Konami weren't happy with the return they got with mgsv. Cut out the massive sales the series gets on PlayStation the numbers will look ugly.
And 4, and 5. Calm down.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
^To make money from the sale to reinvest back in the mobile games that is currently making them profits.
But I don’t believe this will ever happen, Metal gear isn’t worth the money at this point unless Koijma agreed to do a new one or MS would need a solid studio to remake the older games. It just seems like a headache that probably isn’t worth the time and energy it would take to get Konami to agree to everything.
The rumor that blue point might make a remake of metal gear 1 seems way more believable because Konami has a deeper relationship with Sony and that would just be a licensing deal for one of the games in the series that probably isn’t making them money right now anyway.
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Hatemachine
Banned
Not necessarily. This thing would move units like whoa.
Derktron
Banned
I agree, keeping them even though they don't even do anything with it, is what keeps them alive. If they sold Metal Gear Solid would kill the company.
yurinka
Member
I can see Sony moneyhatting a MGS1 remake with Bluepoint to ask for console (timed?) exclusivity. Safe, not too expensive bet for Sony, and something Konami could accept because they wouldn't need to do anything other than to accept free money and publish the game, that someone else would do.
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Hatemachine
Banned
Kerotan
Member
What kind of numbers? Because it didn't sell like crazy when it was on all platforms.
Negotiator101
Member
Have you forgot about Gamepass? This would drive subscribers, that's all Microsoft want at this point.
Boy bawang
Member
I'm glad to see microsoft doing well. I'm even considering buying an xbox instead of staying with a switch.
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Shodan09
Unconfirmed Member
You could have just admitted you've not played them.
NiiloPielinen
Member
KormaChameleon
Member
I certainly would be shocked if this happen. A directors cut of MGSV would be amazing. How about a remake of Snatcher as well, please?
Derktron
Banned
Yes, stop trying to be edgy my boy, because I'll clap back at you. Without those games, Konami is dead even though their already dead. I said what I said. I have spoken. Goodbye, this conversation is over.
Kerotan
Member
OK so MS spend a fortune for an ip not really popular on Xbox. Then a fortune to get kojima to develop a game he doesn't want on a platform he never really liked.
Then give him a massive budget. Then give it away on gamepass so even less full price sales. That's the worst business move ever..
If I was MS and we hired kojima I'd let me make a new ip. Makes way more sense.
levyjl1988
Banned
In my point of view the jedi are evil...
Blond
Banned
They’ve been doing it since the OG Xbox. Selling mediocre games on hype alone (LOL at all the hype around Fable and Sudeki) and buying everything in sight has been there MO for years. Running Rare into the ground to the point you have another studio making Perfect Dark just shows you how they think.
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Outrunner
Member
If anything they showed what they came for with the always online, DRM en Kinect listening on consumers. Now because they offer a cheap subscription service they somehow are pro consumer. People do have a short memory.
Bladed Thesis
Member
Yeah, I don't see this as being very likely.
how?
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Nah, they going to lose interest within a couple of years like they always do.
Neither Spencer nor Nadella is going to be around forever and chances are their successors will have to demonstrate that their multi-billion dollar outlay is a good use of funds.
The gaming market is too fragmented by interest and historic loyalty to ever have a Netflix-style service with that many active subscribers. Growth will slow and the running costs will continue to climb, at which point MS will be forced to actually charge what the service is worth and recurrence will falter.
People forget how long dev-cycles are these days and as a result, the sheer amount of time costs will need to be absorbed for before any return is generated. Mitigations strategies for this will start to become apparent pretty soon because the brutal truth is that all games are putatively of equal value as a component of GP. Its a system based on churn, a constant refresh of product to keep peoples interest.
A cheaply made breakout hit like say, Fall Guys is actually more valuable as a sales driver than some AAAA blockbuster because in terms of engagement to outlay the ratio skews hard towards the low-end. This will inevitably shape the product and the line-up.
Konami Earns Record Profits Thanks to Its Gaming Division
Konami reports that, as of last December, it enjoyed record-high profits thanks to its gaming division, even though the company saw a drop in revenue.
gamerant.com
ManaByte
Member
Senua
Member
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Prove me wrong.
Its just speculation on my part but its based on historic trends, and I'm sorry but I simply don't see GP ever reaching the 200m+ numbers that Netflix is at because that's basically the entirety of the console market and then some!
Factoring in that prediction in conjunction with the known costs of content acquisition and "stickyness" of most gaming content and it looks a damn long way off of being surefire success.
Its not like MS never change tack when an enterprise isn't hitting its targets!
Thirty7ven
Banned
On the money 8 for 8 apparently
Yeah sure, too bad those previous rumors were all shit tastic and low level. The rumor is basically "Konami wants to license MGS IP" and then the MS is interested bit is added because of a Kojima/Xbox rumor.
It ain't happening.
Badlucktroll
Member
I for one think that its good and i take all these rumors lately about Silent Hill, Castlevania, and Metal Gear meaning they could BE STIRRING BACK TO LIFE.
GeorgPrime
Banned
This is big if true.
May be part of the deal between Microsoft and Kojima Prod.
From ACG:
Also (1h10m10s):
"Who owns the IP for Metal Gear ? Konami does right ? Yeah, APPARENTLY they are..."
And now the finish move:
Best case is Microsoft get the licence, and give it to Kojima for an exclusive game. I guess fan can only be happy (rather than watching Konami destroying the saga)
Source
They should get it, do a Metal Gear Solid remake with the graphic of Metal Gear Solid 5 and then put it on PC
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
They don't need all of the console market because Gamepass is also on PC. Top that with xcloud which will be on Android and iOS and they have a huge market full of potential players.
Interfectum
Member
I mean, they are steamrolling to 30 million subs and don't even have a single next-gen exclusive first party offering yet. They are literally at the starting line with tens of millions of subs. Game Pass is as surefire of a success as you can get in gaming.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Just to be absolutely clear because monopoly is one of those words that people love to toss around despite not knowing what one is;
monopoly
1. (an organization or group that has) complete control of something…
dictionary.cambridge.org
(an organization or group that has) complete control of something, especially an area of business, so that others have no share:
So to be absolutely clear, Microsoft does not and never will hold a monopoly of the video game market.
OrtizTwelve
Member
This is big if true.
May be part of the deal between Microsoft and Kojima Prod.
From ACG:
Also (1h10m10s):
"Who owns the IP for Metal Gear ? Konami does right ? Yeah, APPARENTLY they are..."
And now the finish move:
Best case is Microsoft get the licence, and give it to Kojima for an exclusive game. I guess fan can only be happy (rather than watching Konami destroying the saga)
Source
Makes sense. I could see Microsoft getting the license and bringing Kojima onboard to do something with it. It would be industry shaking news and would be exclusive to game pass — that’s huge.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Honestly, I don't care who gets it so long as I get awesome games. I do have a preference, but all in all I'll go where the games I want to play are.
Krappadizzle
Member
FalsettoVibe
Member
Makes more sense for it to go to Sony imo........especially with them doing a MGS movie. Also, I think most of the series fans probably are PlayStation owners.
Dabaus
Banned
Theyre not steam rolling anything. Games pass is almost 4 years old. 22 Million in 4 years isnt that great. As far as first party goes Halo isnt going to move the needle, assuming it even lives up to the hype. What halo fan or die hard xbox fan doesnt either already have an xbox or gamepass?