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I ran Days Gone on old PC hardware (iGPU) at 720/30.
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The great thing about PC gaming is that it’s accessible to people of all budgets.
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yamaci17
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No, you need 4K 120 FPS or you can't enjoy games
teezzy
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BootsLoader
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Well it’s nice to be able to play with such cheap components and also it’s nice to see that they made a nice port. Actually it’s pretty playable but it looks dull.
GeorgPrime
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Go to the old saw mill and try the biggest horde in the game lol
Ezquimacore
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Medium settings is literally the base ps4 settings. And with gpu scaling from the amd adrenalin software the game doesn't look blurry. I get that some people don't understand tech beyond their console but some people should stop talking like they know everything
Ezquimacore
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It runs smooth but the recording software of windows cause that. Lol damn this site is full of old school basement warriors, the toxic ones.
Ezquimacore
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I think I get it now, some playstation fans are mad because the game can run on a cheap quad core cpu and the "magic playstation performance" is a lie, that's gotta be it.
Guilty_AI
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I posted a video earlier on a horde and it ran fine. Those hordes are mostly smoke & mirrors anyway so its not like they cause any problematic drops in performance (video i showed dropped from 40-50 to 30-40 when directly looking at the horde)
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MasterCornholio
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I've been thinking about building a micro PC for emulation. I'm guessing the one you got could probably handle emulation quite well.
MasterCornholio
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I'm not sure about that. For 400$ you can play the game on the PS5 DE at 60FPs with a much higher resolution. I think playstation fans would be mad if a 400$ PC beats a PS5.
I think its great that a PS4 game runs on your PC but you can get a much better experience with the actual console. Now those that have gaming PC will definitely have much better visuals and peformance.
Ezquimacore
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The thing is, this is not my main source of gaming and I never said it was. I made this thread to show how amazing apus are these days and some people went nuts for no apparent reason other than they don't understand the tech.
Guilty_AI
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Seems to do ok. This is even an older model than op's.
Well, why are they mad then? Cause the number of people in this thread who seem to have completely missed the point is too damn high
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Ezquimacore
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yeah it's great for emulation, I recommend a better fan, nothing fancy or expensive but the default fan is not good.
MasterCornholio
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I know how amazing APUs can be. The PS5 APUs is pretty impressive with all extra I/O functionality and it's GPU.
Still I'm thinking an APU based PC would be great for emulation. I'm thinking maybe building one that can handle up to PS3 titles if not then PS2 games will be more than enough for me.
MasterCornholio
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That a PS4 game can be played on an APU?
Don't see anything wrong with that and with the advancements made to APU that should be doable by now. I certainly wouldn't consider it a good enough experience for me. 720P would look pretty bad on my monitor for example. 1080P is the minimum but I would prefer 1440P.
strange headache
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I find the elitism in this thread really disgusting. What OP did was a pretty cool experiment in order to show how accessible gaming has become.
How frikkin' insecure do you have to be if you feel the need to ridicule other people for playing at lower resolutions and frames?
How frikkin' insecure do you have to be if you feel the need to ridicule other people for playing at lower resolutions and frames?
Ezquimacore
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The ps2 emulator works perfect and on the ps3 emulator I tried persona 5, demon souls and Ninja gaiden and everything works fine but I'm not sure about other games. Cemu emulator runs perfect and can even add extra details on games like breath of the wild.
Ezquimacore
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I thought the same but it doesn't look bad thanks to the advancements on technology, there's an option on the amd adrenalin software called "GPU Scaling" mixed with Amd sharpening.
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Guilty_AI
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Ps3 emulation isn't quite there yet so you might still have trouble with some of the 'heavier' titles. Should be fine for up to ps2 tho.
Ezquimacore
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ps3 some games work, persona 5, ninja gaiden and demon souls at least. uncharted and the last of us would not run well, hell even gtx graphics have problems running those games.
MasterCornholio
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Do you have the APU in a micro case?
And if you do how does it handle the heat?
That's one of my concerns with building a small PC with one of these APUs. I'm not planning to do any overclocking with it.
Guilty_AI
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Yeah, its hard to pinpoint which titles exactly without testing myself since rpcs3 made a lot of progress pretty recently.
Uncharted and TLoU aside, should be interesting to test how well it does with MGS4, GOW3, RDR, Motorstorm PR and Gran turismo since these are all games that already run well on normal gaming pcs but are on the list of heavier titles.
I've seen a video where the APU has some trouble running GOW3 for example, though its a few months old already
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Ezquimacore
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yes, I have something like this case: https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/11-133-380-V24.jpg
This is all you need for the cpu to stay below 70C at full speed
Another Fan other than the default one.
Go to bios and put iGPU clock speed at 1700 MHz and 1.300v
CPU at 4025MHz and 1.360v
Also I recommend 16gb 3200mhz of ram
that's it. That's the best settings for maximum performance and stability.
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MasterCornholio
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I was thinking of something smaller than that. I already have a Thermal Take Cube case PC.
Ezquimacore
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Yeah it will work just fine, the most important thing is the fan, this cpu doesn't use too much wattage and is just 4 threads so as long as you have a better fan than the default one. Also keep in mind that I'm using a 4k monitor and the idle temp is 38C-45C I'm honestly impressed by the price/performance. Just tried Sunset overdrive and the game runs at 1080p/30fps max settings.
MasterCornholio
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Ezquimacore
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no, the 3200g is the quad core with vega 8, the normal price is $100-$120 but thanks to the shortage is now around $160.
the 3400g is the quad core with 8 threads and vega 11 so it's a bit better for multi tasking and the igpu will give you 5-6 fps more, the normal price is $170 but not is around $260
MasterCornholio
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Doesn't seem worth it for just a few more FPS. The one you have seems adequate for my needs. Then there's the option of going with a Ryzen handheld but they are pretty expensive on my opinion.
DaGwaphics
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If you look at it as a separate gaming related purchase, sure, the console is a better value. However, if the discussion is the gaming performance on the everyday PC/laptop that you already purchased for basic home usage, that's something different. Whether it is just the very casual gamer or the kid that only has the laptop his parents got him for school, it's nice to see the iGPUs improving. There are always a lot of iGPUs in the steam hardware surveys.
Ezquimacore
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yeah not worth it, it's just a few demanding games that would utilize the extra threads. For example, Days Gone utilize all the igpu but the cpu is at %40-%50. The handhelds are cool and all but the wattage limit and the price are the biggest problem. I'm honestly having fun playing with the settings to see how games run on this little piece of hardware. so far the most demanding game is cyberpunk and I was able to make it look and run better than the base ps4/xbox one version.
Ezquimacore
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exactly, if you have a kid and he wants to play roblox, minecraft and fortnite this thing can do it at max setting and also utilize the PC for school stuff.
DaGwaphics
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I remember seeing the vid below of the 5500u and being impressed with the performance of the little 15w APU.
Things have come a long way.
Ezquimacore
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Yeah AMD has my full respect for these.
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I was talking about the actual video captures shown - and that's not even resembling a PS4 game, unless you're talking about Black Tiger or something.
Now if the alleged settings are supposed to be higher and someone messed up their capture - that's not reader's fault for data being misrpresented.
mr.dilya
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One things for sure....none of them look like that superman guy.
marquimvfs
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Well, its a little more than that, no?
Ezquimacore
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Depends on the game but not that much because honestly apus depend on your ram, a 3200g with 16gb of ddr4 3200mhz would perform better than a 3400g with 8 gbram ddr4 2666mhz , the right configuration would give you at least 10 fps more on some games. Every benchmark I see is like that but I guess it would be a bit better on games using the extra threads.
Diddy X
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Judging others how they play video games when it has no effect on you whatsoever:
As I see it it defeats the main purpose of pcgaming which is high resolution and high framerates, just a personal view.
Ezquimacore
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I understand what you're saying but "PC gaming" is marketed as this "high end" entertainment when in fact the scalability of pc gaming is insane. with this apu you can play a game like gta v at 1440p upscaled to 4k, other games that are not too demanding and every emulator. I have gaming pc with a good gpu/cpu and I made a mini pc with this apu.
with this apu you can make something like this without a gpu:
AutumnLeaves
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Defeat the main purpose? The main purpose of PC gaming is playing however the hell you want to. Low, medium, high settings. It's completely up to the user to flex the settings depending on their components and play the game. That is the beauty of PC gaming.
Md Ray
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There's a fantastic, easy workaround to remove the usual choppiness of PC's 30fps to make it look and feel like it does on consoles. See below, if you're interested:
This is correct.
Alternatively, if manually setting "30" didn't work or didn't play well in rivatuner - then there's another workaround for that 'console-like' 30fps in the same app.
rdr 2 rivatuner vs ingame fps limit
in game limit - wonky frame limit jumping between 32.3 and 33.8 ms constantly, jarring 30 fps with hideously low %1 and %0.1 lows
rivatuner limit - perfectly smooth frame pacing with rock solid 33.3 ms, fluid 30 fps with high %1 lows (only 29, even the %0.1 lows is high as 28)
solution is simple, use it
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same story. this time though, rivatuner did not play well
valhalla in game limiter is so horrible that it does not even lock to 30. instead it wents up and down between 29 and 31. weird behaviour tbh
Right below "Framerate limit" there's a "Scanline sync" option. Click twice on it to bring up "x/2", then enter "1". Go to your game and just enable Vsync to get rid of tearing. That's it.
It will lock your frame rate to half of your display's max refresh rate w/ perfectly even frame pacing just like you see on consoles. 30fps on 60Hz display, if it's a 144Hz display then it'll be 72fps for e.g.
Days Gone especially doesn't play well with manually entering "30" in the Rivatuner so this scanline method works wonders. If anyone's got a system that's inadequate to run this game at 60+fps then this is what you gotta do for locked 30fps! Perfect for APUs and whatnot.
This vid shows how to do that and more...
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And with this game, the myth of magical pixie dust based console optimization is laid to the ground. The same 750ti that ran AC Black Flag at ps4 settings in early 2014 runs days gone at 1080p 30 FPS close to ps4 settings (VRAM the main culprit here)
I thought that thanks to pixie dust based optimization PC gamers would need at least a 780ti or OG GTX TItan to match a PS4 close to the end of the generation. This all shows that devs and publishers just need to put in manhours for a PC game to be properly optimized. Do it and it will be rewarded by the users/customers (Forza Horizon 4 - Death Stranding - Days Gone - RE Engine games for he most part)
I thought that thanks to pixie dust based optimization PC gamers would need at least a 780ti or OG GTX TItan to match a PS4 close to the end of the generation. This all shows that devs and publishers just need to put in manhours for a PC game to be properly optimized. Do it and it will be rewarded by the users/customers (Forza Horizon 4 - Death Stranding - Days Gone - RE Engine games for he most part)
bender
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I love PC gaming still do even if my last gaming pc was like 10 years ago. PC gamers from today have to understand not everyone live in the USA. In my country I have to pay taxes for products that cost $200 or more. Like 30-38% of taxes. Buy the component or the part online and wait like 2 weeks to get here. If you have a 1k pc then add like $350 to the price. On top of that ram, gpu and cpu or pc components are more expensive today and out of stock. That's is why I've been playing on console.
This is a originally $100 apu. Pretty good for what it's.
This is a originally $100 apu. Pretty good for what it's.
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PC gaming can be expensive, but could be cheap too. I tried Days Gone with a $120 cpu with integrated graphics (Ryzen 3 3200g) and the results were surprising. At 720p and medium settings the game runs perfectly at 30 fps. So props to AMD for making such a great cheap option (Can play Resident Evil 8 too) and props to Sony for the great PC port.
That's pretty damn impressive, to be honest. Obviously a big downgrade from the full experience, but totally playable. Crazy how far integrated GPUs have come.
