People taking genuine pride in owning a GPU makes me wonder what little else they have going on for them
It's not an accomplishment, you just bought something
No, you need 4K 120 FPS or you can't enjoy gamesPeople taking genuine pride in owning a GPU makes me wonder what little else they have going on for them
It's not an accomplishment, you just bought something
Well ofc it runs good when theres nothing but vast empty spaces of vegetation and scattered zombies. Go into a horde fight and let us know how it runs there.
I usually don't use built in locks because they usually are less optimal than third party softwa
Medium settings is literally the base ps4 settings. And with gpu scaling from the amd adrenalin software the game doesn't look blurry. I get that some people don't understand tech beyond their console but some people should stop talking like they know everythingIt looks like something between a PS2 and PS3 game at these settings too.
Not to say looks are everything, but for games like these, they're kind of crucial part of the experience.
It runs smooth but the recording software of windows cause that. Lol damn this site is full of old school basement warriors, the toxic ones.Its runs like shit, 720p jerky 30fps, what was the point of this post, the advice u should be giving is dont game on igpus,
Well ofc it runs good when theres nothing but vast empty spaces of vegetation and scattered zombies. Go into a horde fight and let us know how it runs there.
I posted a video earlier on a horde and it ran fine. Those hordes are mostly smoke & mirrors anyway so its not like they cause any problematic drops in performance (video i showed dropped from 40-50 to 30-40 when directly looking at the horde)Go to the old saw mill and try the biggest horde in the game lol
I think I get it now, some playstation fans are mad because the game can run on a cheap quad core cpu and the "magic playstation performance" is a lie, that's gotta be it.
The thing is, this is not my main source of gaming and I never said it was. I made this thread to show how amazing apus are these days and some people went nuts for no apparent reason other than they don't understand the tech.I'm not sure about that. For 400$ you can play the game on the PS5 DE at 60FPs with a much higher resolution. I think playstation fans would be mad if a 400$ PC beats a PS5.
I think its great that a PS4 game runs on your PC but you can get a much better experience with the actual console. Now those that have gaming PC will definitely have much better visuals and peformance.
Seems to do ok. This is even an older model than op's.I've been thinking about building a micro PC for emulation. I'm guessing the one you got could probably handle emulation quite well.
Well, why are they mad then? Cause the number of people in this thread who seem to have completely missed the point is too damn highI'm not sure about that. For 400$ you can play the game on the PS5 DE at 60FPs with a much higher resolution. I think playstation fans would be mad if a 400$ PC beats a PS5.
I think its great that a PS4 game runs on your PC but you can get a much better experience with the actual console. Now those that have gaming PC will definitely have much better visuals and peformance.
yeah it's great for emulation, I recommend a better fan, nothing fancy or expensive but the default fan is not good.I've been thinking about building a micro PC for emulation. I'm guessing the one you got could probably handle emulation quite well.
The thing is, this is not my main source of gaming and I never said it was. I made this thread to show how amazing apus are these days and some people went nuts for no apparent reason other than they don't understand the tech.
Well, why are they mad then? Cause the number of people in this thread who seem to have completely missed the point is too damn high
The ps2 emulator works perfect and on the ps3 emulator I tried persona 5, demon souls and Ninja gaiden and everything works fine but I'm not sure about other games. Cemu emulator runs perfect and can even add extra details on games like breath of the wild.I know how amazing APUs can be. The PS5 APUs is pretty impressive with all extra I/O functionality and it's GPU.
Still I'm thinking an APU based PC would be great for emulation. I'm thinking maybe building one that can handle up to PS3 titles if not then PS2 games will be more than enough for me.
I thought the same but it doesn't look bad thanks to the advancements on technology, there's an option on the amd adrenalin software called "GPU Scaling" mixed with Amd sharpening.That a PS4 game can be played on an APU?
Don't see anything wrong with that and with the advancements made to APU that should be doable by now. I certainly wouldn't consider it a good enough experience for me. 720P would look pretty bad on my monitor for example. 1080P is the minimum but I would prefer 1440P.
Ps3 emulation isn't quite there yet so you might still have trouble with some of the 'heavier' titles. Should be fine for up to ps2 tho.I know how amazing APUs can be. The PS5 APUs is pretty impressive with all extra I/O functionality and it's GPU.
Still I'm thinking an APU based PC would be great for emulation. I'm thinking maybe building one that can handle up to PS3 titles if not then PS2 games will be more than enough for me.
ps3 some games work, persona 5, ninja gaiden and demon souls at least. uncharted and the last of us would not run well, hell even gtx graphics have problems running those games.Ps3 emulation isn't quite there yet so you might still have trouble with some of the 'heavier' titles. Should be fine for up to ps2 tho.
The ps2 emulator works perfect and on the ps3 emulator I tried persona 5, demon souls and Ninja gaiden and everything works fine but I'm not sure about other games. Cemu emulator runs perfect and can even add extra details on games like breath of the wild.
Yeah, its hard to pinpoint which titles exactly without testing myself since rpcs3 made a lot of progress pretty recently.ps3 some games work, persona 5, ninja gaiden and demon souls at least. uncharted and the last of us would not run well, hell even gtx graphics have problems running those games.
yes, I have something like this case: https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/11-133-380-V24.jpgDo you have the APU in a micro case?
And if you do how does it handle the heat?
That's one of my concerns with building a small PC with one of these APUs. I'm not planning to do any overclocking with it.
yes, I have something like this case: https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/11-133-380-V24.jpg
This is all you need for the cpu to stay below 70C at full speed
Another Fan other than the default one.
Go to bios and put iGPU clock speed at 1700 MHz and 1.300v
CPU at 4025MHz and 1.360v
Also I recommend 16gb 3200mhz of ram
that's it. That's the best settings for maximum performance and stability.
Yeah it will work just fine, the most important thing is the fan, this cpu doesn't use too much wattage and is just 4 threads so as long as you have a better fan than the default one. Also keep in mind that I'm using a 4k monitor and the idle temp is 38C-45C I'm honestly impressed by the price/performance. Just tried Sunset overdrive and the game runs at 1080p/30fps max settings.I was thinking of something smaller than that. I already have a Thermal Take Cube case PC.
Yeah it will work just fine, the most important thing is the fan, this cpu doesn't use too much wattage and is just 4 threads so as long as you have a better fan than the default one. Also keep in mind that I'm using a 4k monitor and the idle temp is 38C-45C I'm honestly impressed by the price/performance. Just tried Sunset overdrive and the game runs at 1080p/30fps max settings.
no, the 3200g is the quad core with vega 8, the normal price is $100-$120 but thanks to the shortage is now around $160.Is that APU the highest model?
Thanks for answering my questions BTW.
no, the 3200g is the quad core with vega 8, the normal price is $100-$120 but thanks to the shortage is now around $160.
the 3400g is the quad core with 8 threads and vega 11 so it's a bit better for multi tasking and the igpu will give you 5-6 fps more, the normal price is $170 but not is around $260
Sorry but we clearly have differing interpretations of the word "prefect".
This is one of the rare cases where I'd say someone would be better off just getting a console to play these games.
Once you calculate the cost of a 3200g build, even without the graphics card, you could probably get a last gen upgraded console (pro or one X) and still have some spare change.
Can you buy just the CPU and plug it in to your TV/monitor and play the games mentioned in the OP? Once you calculate what else you need it's 100% not worth it.
Go big or go home.
yeah not worth it, it's just a few demanding games that would utilize the extra threads. For example, Days Gone utilize all the igpu but the cpu is at %40-%50. The handhelds are cool and all but the wattage limit and the price are the biggest problem. I'm honestly having fun playing with the settings to see how games run on this little piece of hardware. so far the most demanding game is cyberpunk and I was able to make it look and run better than the base ps4/xbox one version.Doesn't seem worth it for just a few more FPS. The one you have seems adequate for my needs. Then there's the option of going with a Ryzen handheld but they are pretty expensive on my opinion.
exactly, if you have a kid and he wants to play roblox, minecraft and fortnite this thing can do it at max setting and also utilize the PC for school stuff.If you look at it as a separate gaming related purchase, sure, the console is a better value. However, if the discussion is the gaming performance on the everyday PC/laptop that you already purchased for basic home usage, that's something different. Whether it is just the very casual gamer or the kid that only has the laptop his parents got him for school, it's nice to see the iGPUs improving. There are always a lot of iGPUs in the steam hardware surveys.
exactly, if you have a kid and he wants to play roblox, minecraft and fortnite this thing can do it at max setting and also utilize the PC for school stuff.
I remember seeing the vid below of the 5500u and being impressed with the performance of the little 15w APU.
Things have come a long way.
I was talking about the actual video captures shown - and that's not even resembling a PS4 game, unless you're talking about Black Tiger or something.Medium settings is literally the base ps4 settings.
People taking genuine pride in owning a GPU makes me wonder what little else they have going on for them
It's not an accomplishment, you just bought something
Well, its a little more than that, no?the 3400g is the quad core with 8 threads and vega 11 so it's a bit better for multi tasking and the igpu will give you 5-6 fps more
Depends on the game but not that much because honestly apus depend on your ram, a 3200g with 16gb of ddr4 3200mhz would perform better than a 3400g with 8 gbram ddr4 2666mhz , the right configuration would give you at least 10 fps more on some games. Every benchmark I see is like that but I guess it would be a bit better on games using the extra threads.Well, its a little more than that, no?
Judging others how they play video games when it has no effect on you whatsoever:
I understand what you're saying but "PC gaming" is marketed as this "high end" entertainment when in fact the scalability of pc gaming is insane. with this apu you can play a game like gta v at 1440p upscaled to 4k, other games that are not too demanding and every emulator. I have gaming pc with a good gpu/cpu and I made a mini pc with this apu.As I see it it defeats the main purpose of pcgaming which is high resolution and high framerates, just a personal view.
As I see it it defeats the main purpose of pcgaming which is high resolution and high framerates, just a personal view.
There's a fantastic, easy workaround to remove the usual choppiness of PC's 30fps to make it look and feel like it does on consoles. See below, if you're interested:obviously i prefer 60fps but 30fps on consoles is not as bad as on pc, 30fps on pc actually hurt my eyes and can't stand it
This is correct.They are the same, only problem is people don't know how to properly setup for 30 FPS. They will either use wonky ingame limiters which tend to work bad or they will try to play games with mouse at 30 FPS, which would be not fluid on a console as well
-Install Rivatuner, lock to 30 - most important point for stable and smooth framepacing. Most in-game limiters are bad, case closed
-Hook a xbox or ps gamepad - second most important point, 30 fps will always be jarring with a mouse. this is why majority of pc users will rant about how 30 fps looks worse on their pcs compared to consoles because they're trying to do rapid moves with a mouse
-Enable half vsync from either AMD or Nvidia control panels
-Enable motion blur
Boom, you have the same 30 FPS console experience.
It is really easy one you get the hang of it
And finally, a game with a 30 FPS lock will never expose an alternative. From the start to finish, you're attuning yourself to 30 frames. And by no means that I'm saying its bad.
On PC, you literally have toggles to switch in between. You can immediately see how good 60 FPS looks, and you cant go back to 30 FPS, because seconds ago, you experienced the better alternative. If there were no alternative to begin with, you would play long enough to attune for 30 FPS and it would come off as somewhat fluid at some point.
This whole "console 30 FPS looks fluid and 60 FPS like!1" argument quickly died down with the new gen consoles. Now almost every game has a performance mode that actually works perfectly at 60 FPS)and people can switch between in mere seconds. And voila, now most of them will say how horrible 30 FPS looks compared to 60 FPS. All of a sudden fluidity argument is gone. If it was really that fluid, why sacrifice resolution or fidelity to hit 60, huh? Since they can quickly switch in between, most of them can't even go back to 30 FPS, and this is the proof that the "console 30 fps so fluid" argument is not that revelant.
On PC however, with bad conditions and uninformed settings, you can create a jarring 30 FPS experience by yourself, hence the claims of "pc 30 fps look bad"
Alternatively, if manually setting "30" didn't work or didn't play well in rivatuner - then there's another workaround for that 'console-like' 30fps in the same app.
rdr 2 rivatuner vs ingame fps limit
in game limit - wonky frame limit jumping between 32.3 and 33.8 ms constantly, jarring 30 fps with hideously low %1 and %0.1 lows
rivatuner limit - perfectly smooth frame pacing with rock solid 33.3 ms, fluid 30 fps with high %1 lows (only 29, even the %0.1 lows is high as 28)
solution is simple, use it I will be trying infamous valhalla as well.
edit:
same story. this time though, rivatuner did not play well instead I used driver fps limiter which did wonders:
valhalla in game limiter is so horrible that it does not even lock to 30. instead it wents up and down between 29 and 31. weird behaviour tbh
People taking genuine pride in owning a GPU makes me wonder what little else they have going on for them
It's not an accomplishment, you just bought something
PC gaming can be expensive, but could be cheap too. I tried Days Gone with a $120 cpu with integrated graphics (Ryzen 3 3200g) and the results were surprising. At 720p and medium settings the game runs perfectly at 30 fps. So props to AMD for making such a great cheap option (Can play Resident Evil 8 too) and props to Sony for the great PC port.
I wish my xeon had integrated graphics tbh
I have a laptop with HD4400 on it and it was sorta fun treating it like a little console for my less demanding steam games. Has hdmi out and everything. Plug a couple controllers in and you're gravy