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[Riky]

You haven't attached the quote or link.

Series S is for people with 1080p TVs and gamers on a budget (I keep hearing) and now they need a VRR compatible TV to make the framerate reasonable? Despite the resolution tanking to obscenely low levels.

The main gaming mode is already a stripped back, compromised version, missing graphical effects.

When or where does the next gen experience appear?

It's difficult to wonder why MS made the decision they did choosing this over a XSX Digital SKU.

If they did, it would almost certainly be sold out in the UK right now. It would be difficult to compete against. I'm sure you'll agree.

It has just left a gap in the market, leaving just the PS5DE as the entry point for consoles which can run next gen versions of games without caveats. Fully future-proofed, runs 120hz better. And 4k gaming. And a lot more harddrive space to boot.

It's a shame Sony don't/can't make more of them ATM.

The quote is there, screenshot for your convenience. The framerate is no worse than the other versions, just VRR support for Xbox helps a lot.
The resolution is lowest at 648p minimum at the start of a race when you're in the pack, once that clears you are going to get up to a nice 1080p image, if it really bothered anyone there are two other modes including a nice image quality mode.
Your concern is just trolling as even the figures you quoted were wrong.
Let's see what SFS and Mesh Shaders bring to the table.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

You haven't attached the quote or link.

Series S is for people with 1080p TVs and gamers on a budget (I keep hearing) and now they need a VRR compatible TV to make the framerate reasonable? Despite the resolution tanking to obscenely low levels.

The main gaming mode is already a stripped back, compromised version, missing graphical effects.

When or where does the next gen experience appear?

It's difficult to wonder why MS made the decision they did choosing this over a XSX Digital SKU.

If they did, it would almost certainly be sold out in the UK right now. It would be difficult to compete against. I'm sure you'll agree.

It has just left a gap in the market, leaving just the PS5DE as the entry point for consoles which can run next gen versions of games without caveats. Fully future-proofed, runs 120hz better. And 4k gaming. And a lot more harddrive space to boot.

It's a shame Sony don't/can't make more of them ATM.

MS wanted to make a Gamepass machine that is as cheap as possible. That's the entire point of the XSS. I personally think it's a bit too expensive, but once it reaches $250 and lower, it's gonna be a no-brainer for many people. The PS5DE is great value for money, but the games are fucking expensive (up to 100 dollars in some countries).

 

[dcmk7]

People here love posting that tweet over and over again. Just a reminder that id software wanted 64 GB of RAM in the new consoles. Their engine eats up all the available RAM, no matter how much it actually needs. Yet, Doom Eternal runs perfectly fine on a graphics card with 4 GB of VRAM.

It's just hyperbole from a dev who doesn't like any memory constraints at all. Series S is a beast

The fanatics on here sometimes, good grief, even actual experts aren't truthworthy sources for some! Back to blaming the developers

 

[Bernd Lauert]

The fanatics on here sometimes, good grief, even actual experts aren't truthworthy sources for some! Back to blaming the developers

Appeal to authority is not an argument I even gave you an example with Doom Eternal.

 

[MasterCornholio]

MS wanted to make a Gamepass machine that is as cheap as possible. That's the entire point of the XSS. I personally think it's a bit too expensive, but once it reaches $250 and lower, it's gonna be a no-brainer for many people. The PS5DE is great value for money, but the games are fucking expensive (up to 100 dollars in some countries).

It should become the most popular SKU due to its much lower price and Gamepass. If that doesn't happen it would be interesting to study the situation.

 

[dcmk7]

It was quoted by the Dev, when talking about the introduction of VRS, SFS was later.
Also like I said your figures are wrong, it's 648p to 1080p and the 120hz mode ran as well as PS5, difference being Series S supports VRR so would be smoother.

There's the quote , nothing twisted at all.

You said Dirt 5 roadmap.

The quote is for 'War Thunder'. Gaijin Games aren't Codemasters, the last I heard.

I knew your quote was going to be dodgy.

There's the quote , nothing twisted at all.

Except it's for the wrong game

 

[dcmk7]

Appeal to authority is not an argument I even gave you an example with Doom Eternal.

Your arguments usually get you banned.

So forgive me for not really taking you very seriously. Especially after you've just said an expert was hyperboling.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Your arguments usually get you banned.

So forgive me for not really taking you very seriously. Especially after you've just said an expert was hyperboling.

You shouldn't be too cocky just because so far you've been able to dodge a ban most console warriors have it coming sooner or later.

You're still not making any arguments, you're just engaging in basic fallacies. Disappointing!

 

[Dodkrake]

On the topic of cross-gen games vs gen-aware games, again:

• Cross-gen: Games optimized/designed to run in different generations of consoles.
• Gen-aware: Games that are released for last gen consoles and run on current-gen hardware with certain options unlocked (not always). Usually they will run at PS4 Pro / XOX settings with an hybrid setting sometimes unlocked (instead of choosing res or fps, you can pick both).

I'm really hoping DarkMage619 , Riky , amongst others, understand the difference. There's a clear winner in the Back Compat game, which is the Xbox with it's easier to port SDK's and their last gen preparation for backwards compatible titles, and then there's no clear winner in Cross-gen games they both trade blows pretty much everywhere.

• Some games have an edge in both res and FPS in either console
• Some games have an edge in either res or fps in either console

This is very likely engine related, and the trend will continue across the whole gen.

Quick Edit - On the subject of "features" becoming available on the Xbox SDK's, I find it funny that people ignore that ALL Sdk's have iterations and new features added all the time. It's not just the XDK that will evolve, PS5's SDK will also evolve over time and allow for more features and more fine tuned / granular access.

 

[dcmk7]

You shouldn't be too cocky just because so far you've been able to dodge a ban most console warriors have it coming sooner or later.

You're still not making any arguments, you're just engaging in basic fallacies. Disappointing!

Since when is quoting a developer and using resolution figures (to dispel some delusions) from a oft-quoted source warring..

I would ask what you're talking about, but it really doesn't matter.

 

[M1chl]

On the topic of cross-gen games vs gen-aware games, again:

• Cross-gen: Games optimized/designed to run in different generations of consoles.
• Gen-aware: Games that are released for last gen consoles and run on current-gen hardware with certain options unlocked (not always). Usually they will run at PS4 Pro / XOX settings with an hybrid setting sometimes unlocked (instead of choosing res or fps, you can pick both).

I'm really hoping DarkMage619 , Riky , amongst others, understand the difference. There's a clear winner in the Back Compat game, which is the Xbox with it's easier to port SDK's and their last gen preparation for backwards compatible titles, and then there's no clear winner in Cross-gen games they both trade blows pretty much everywhere.

• Some games have an edge in both res and FPS in either console
• Some games have an edge in either res or fps in either console

This is very likely engine related, and the trend will continue across the whole gen.

I think the major difference is that Gen-aware is compiled in XDK and Cross-gen in GDK, which expose the full potential of the HW (granted you have to use APIs for that).

For example ME: Legendary Edit is just gen-aware, but for some reason it still have the X|S badge, which is misleading. Probably some EA fuckery.

 

[Dodkrake]

I think the major difference is that Gen-aware is compiled in XDK and Cross-gen in GDK, which expose the full potential of the HW (granted you have to use APIs for that).

For example ME: Legendary Edit is just gen-aware, but for some reason it still have the X|S badge, which is misleading. Probably some EA fuckery.

It's called False Advertising.

 

[jroc74]

On the topic of cross-gen games vs gen-aware games, again:

• Cross-gen: Games optimized/designed to run in different generations of consoles.
• Gen-aware: Games that are released for last gen consoles and run on current-gen hardware with certain options unlocked (not always). Usually they will run at PS4 Pro / XOX settings with an hybrid setting sometimes unlocked (instead of choosing res or fps, you can pick both).

I'm really hoping DarkMage619 , Riky , amongst others, understand the difference. There's a clear winner in the Back Compat game, which is the Xbox with it's easier to port SDK's and their last gen preparation for backwards compatible titles, and then there's no clear winner in Cross-gen games they both trade blows pretty much everywhere.

• Some games have an edge in both res and FPS in either console
• Some games have an edge in either res or fps in either console

This is very likely engine related, and the trend will continue across the whole gen.

Quick Edit - On the subject of "features" becoming available on the Xbox SDK's, I find it funny that people ignore that ALL Sdk's have iterations and new features added all the time. It's not just the XDK that will evolve, PS5's SDK will also evolve over time and allow for more features and more fine tuned / granular access.

I'm just trying to figure out what happened recently to bring the 120 fps thing back. I'm positive this was compared weeks, months ago. Probably bought up before the FPS Boost from MS.

What certain folks (team gre...) are feeling some type of way about, I have no idea...but I promise its gonna be alright.

About the SDK's....exactly. We see this first hand with the Rift Apart UE5 flying comparison. SDK's, engines will evolve for everyone.

 

[Riky]

On the topic of cross-gen games vs gen-aware games, again:

• Cross-gen: Games optimized/designed to run in different generations of consoles.
• Gen-aware: Games that are released for last gen consoles and run on current-gen hardware with certain options unlocked (not always). Usually they will run at PS4 Pro / XOX settings with an hybrid setting sometimes unlocked (instead of choosing res or fps, you can pick both).

I'm really hoping DarkMage619 , Riky , amongst others, understand the difference. There's a clear winner in the Back Compat game, which is the Xbox with it's easier to port SDK's and their last gen preparation for backwards compatible titles, and then there's no clear winner in Cross-gen games they both trade blows pretty much everywhere.

• Some games have an edge in both res and FPS in either console
• Some games have an edge in either res or fps in either console

This is very likely engine related, and the trend will continue across the whole gen.

Quick Edit - On the subject of "features" becoming available on the Xbox SDK's, I find it funny that people ignore that ALL Sdk's have iterations and new features added all the time. It's not just the XDK that will evolve, PS5's SDK will also evolve over time and allow for more features and more fine tuned / granular access.

Why are you tagging me in this? I fully understand how it works.
You're missing the point that the average consumer doesn't and they don't care why either.
They are presented with a product and one runs it better than the other, that's all in the end that matters.

 

[Riky]

I think the major difference is that Gen-aware is compiled in XDK and Cross-gen in GDK, which expose the full potential of the HW (granted you have to use APIs for that).

For example ME: Legendary Edit is just gen-aware, but for some reason it still have the X|S badge, which is misleading. Probably some EA fuckery.

It's not just EA, check the file type and you'll see it's "Durango" XDK, Ubisoft and Microsoft also badge these games as X and S enabled, they all run off an external HDD also.

 

[Dodkrake]

Why are you tagging me in this? I fully understand how it works.
You're missing the point that the average consumer doesn't and they don't care why either.
They are presented with a product and one runs it better than the other, that's all in the end that matters.

If you know how this works, why do you keep selling last gen advantages as some sort of proof of MS' next gen superiority? Are you finally admitting that your sole purpose here is to argue for a brand and not for reality?

This forum is not for the average consumer. We're a niche, and contrary to what you think, some can smell right through your BS. So yeah, that's why I tagged you

 

[Riky]

If you know how this works, why do you keep selling last gen advantages as some sort of proof of MS' next gen superiority? Are you finally admitting that your sole purpose here is to argue for a brand and not for reality?

This forum is not for the average consumer. We're a niche, and contrary to what you think, some can smell right through your BS. So yeah, that's why I tagged you

Where did I do that?
The last few big third party games are not BC, Resident Evil 8, Outriders and Hitman 3.
They all run better on Series X.

 

[MasterCornholio]

If you know how this works, why do you keep selling last gen advantages as some sort of proof of MS' next gen superiority? Are you finally admitting that your sole purpose here is to argue for a brand and not for reality?

This forum is not for the average consumer. We're a niche, and contrary to what you think, some can smell right through your BS. So yeah, that's why I tagged you

Wait I'm a minority now?

What the heck I thought everyone looked at comparisons before buying a console.

Now you're telling me that's not the case?

I want my money back.

 

[MrLove]

PS5 is the best place to play third-party multiplats​

 

[yewles1]

in what deluded reality is the series s a beast? If the ps5 is just a nice console with serious issues than why are all the best showcases for next gen on ps5 & not the series consoles? Why is the medium, the only next gen game on the series consoles, running at 900p 30fps? Whilst rachets wrecks anything Xbox has ever even shown for the series consoles? Will Xbox even have anything that competes with rachet this e3? Cause rachet is just an early gen example of ps5 tech, it ain’t maxing out the ps5 & Sony will top rachet at their next presentation. What will be the narrative then?

... compared to the Switch, it is. *sees self out*

 

[Shmunter]

PS5 is the best place to play third-party multiplats​

Pffft, Hitman 3 on PS5 all the way with locked 60. No you cannot convince me otherwise. What a shambles!

 

[Dodkrake]

Where did I do that?
The last few big third party games are not BC, Resident Evil 8, Outriders and Hitman 3.
They all run better on Series X.

Strawman much?

Also, "run better" is a blanket statement that doesn't apply to any of those games. Please define run better.

Also, are your sole purposes in this forum to A) Lie and B) drop either the LOL emoji or the triggered one? Are you 12 and not able to argue like a big boy?

Wait I'm a minority now?

What the heck I thought everyone looked at comparisons before buying a console.

Now you're telling me that's not the case?

I want my money back.

Yeah. Total refund.

 

[Riky]

Strawman much?

Also, "run better" is a blanket statement that doesn't apply to any of those games. Please define run better.

Also, are your sole purposes in this forum to A) Lie and B) drop either the LOL emoji or the triggered one? Are you 12 and not able to argue like a big boy?



Yeah. Total refund.

Ok I'll break it down.

Hitman 3 runs with a 44% resolution advantage and higher quality shadows on Series X
RE8 has a 2-10% advantage in framerate during the ray traced mode.
Outriders runs at a higher resolution on Series X.

You can think of me as 12 if that what turns you on.

 

[ethomaz]

PS5 is the best place to play third-party multiplats​

If you take it not performance that pic can be accurate but...

See the Resident Evil 8 case... 3D Audio and Haptic feedback makes it the best version on PS5.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Ok I'll break it down.

Hitman 3 runs with a 44% resolution advantage and higher quality shadows on Series X
RE8 has a 2-10% advantage in framerate during the ray traced mode.
Outriders runs at a higher resolution on Series X.

You can think of me as 12 if that what turns you on.

Oh Riky you make me so angry

 

[dcmk7]

Strawman much?

Also, "run better" is a blanket statement that doesn't apply to any of those games. Please define run better.

Also, are your sole purposes in this forum to A) Lie and B) drop either the LOL emoji or the triggered one? Are you 12 and not able to argue like a big boy?



Yeah. Total refund.

Did you not see earlier that he tried to make a point about a particular game having an upcoming feature coming.. and said there was a quote to confirm it all.

So to prove this he decided to paste a small image snippet, no actual link. But a quick Google reveals that the quotes were actually for a completely different game and even the wrong studio.

Not sure whether he was trying to be deliberately deceiving or not. Althought he has done similar stuff before.

Post in question:

It was quoted by the Dev, when talking about the introduction of VRS, SFS was later.
Also like I said your figures are wrong, it's 648p to 1080p and the 120hz mode ran as well as PS5, difference being Series S supports VRR so would be smoother.

There's the quote , nothing twisted at all.

Actual interview:

https://wccftech.com/gaijin-games-t...-x-s-with-rt-directml-support-being-explored/

 

[Larvana]

Did you not see earlier that he tried to make a point about a particular game having an upcoming feature coming.. and said there was a quote to confirm it all.

So to prove this he decided to paste a small image snippet, no actual link. But a quick Google reveals that the quotes were actually for a completely different game and even the wrong studio.

Not sure whether he was trying to be deliberately deceiving or not. Althought he has done similar stuff before.

Post in question:


Actual interview:

https://wccftech.com/gaijin-games-t...-x-s-with-rt-directml-support-being-explored/

How you haven't been banned yet is beyond questioning; don't be an hypocrite when you sit most your time here arguing.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

How you haven't been banned yet is beyond questioning; don't be an hypocrite when you sit most your time here arguing.

Same reason you haven't been banned yet

 

[dcmk7]

How you haven't been banned yet is beyond questioning; don't be an hypocrite when you sit most your time here arguing.

Because I proved someone was lying.. and sympathised with a poster who suspected the same?

Ok.

 

[Dodkrake]

Ok I'll break it down.

Hitman 3 runs with a 44% resolution advantage and higher quality shadows on Series X
RE8 has a 2-10% advantage in framerate during the ray traced mode.
Outriders runs at a higher resolution on Series X.

You can think of me as 12 if that what turns you on.

Hitman 3

• 1800p vs 4k is = 36.0656% difference
• Better framerate on the PS5

RE8

• That's 1 section. Stop being selective. Mean frame rate across the board is... a whopping 1fps difference. Amazing
• 500% faster load times on the PS5
• Source

Outriders

• They both run at upscaled 4k
• Internal resolution yields is = 27.5902% difference
• Better texture filtering on the PS5
• Source

Funny how you then ignore THPS 1+2, Crash Bandicoot 4, post-update Mortal Shell. But as said, engines perform differently based on the platform engine, and you already derailed again my point about cross-gen vs gen aware. Congratulations.

And no, it doesn't "turn me on", you little creep.

Edit - Corrected an error, I meant engine and not platform.

 

[Riky]

Did you not see earlier that he tried to make a point about a particular game having an upcoming feature coming.. and said there was a quote to confirm it all.

So to prove this he decided to paste a small image snippet, no actual link. But a quick Google reveals that the quotes were actually for a completely different game and even the wrong studio.

Not sure whether he was trying to be deliberately deceiving or not. Althought he has done similar stuff before.

Post in question:


Actual interview:

https://wccftech.com/gaijin-games-t...-x-s-with-rt-directml-support-being-explored/

That quote actually came from a debate about VRS I was having with P Panajev2001a but I didn't check the source so yes I was wrong.
That was a side issue anyway, you were claiming the game runs at 540p, it doesn't it runs at a dynamic 1080p to 648p, so admit you were wrong.

 

[SlimySnake]

The RE8 load times are insane on the PS5. I was watching some Mercenaries guides on youtube and for some reason they were playing on PS4, loading screens everywhere. This game is so instant I had no idea there was any kind of loading in this game. It's kinda mind blowing when you compare it to last gen.

Another weird thing happened where I accidently ejected the disc but the game put me back to the menu I was in when I put the disc back in. I am guessing the game remains suspended even if you eject discs since its technically running off of the ssd.

 

[dcmk7]

That quote actually came from a debate about VRS I was having with P Panajev2001a but I didn't check the source so yes I was wrong.
That was a side issue anyway, you were claiming the game runs at 540p, it doesn't it runs at a dynamic 1080p to 648p, so admit you were wrong.

I have seen 570p from various sources (after hearing about it from a poster here). So why would I admit I'm wrong?

If I had seen 648p, I would be using that figure instead. It doesn't change anything at all.


Both figures are nowhere near good enough for 2021.

Why are you making out that it changes anything or are you saying lows of 648p are next gen?

 

[Garani]

You can think of me as 12 if that what turns you on.

Even if you were right, and you are not, your comment is really disgusting.

 

[dcmk7]

Even if you were right, and you are not, your comment is really disgusting.

Yeh, that comment is not cool at all.

Is he suggesting that a poster might like 12 year olds and is therefore a pedophile?

That's Elon Musk-esque.

 

[Loope]

Ok I'll break it down.

Hitman 3 runs with a 44% resolution advantage and higher quality shadows on Series X
RE8 has a 2-10% advantage in framerate during the ray traced mode.
Outriders runs at a higher resolution on Series X.

You can think of me as 12 if that what turns you on.

Duuude.Wtf? Call him names or whatever, but shit like that is a big no no.

 

[Sinthor]

You shouldn't be too cocky just because so far you've been able to dodge a ban most console warriors have it coming sooner or later.

You're still not making any arguments, you're just engaging in basic fallacies. Disappointing!

Sorry...couldn't resist....

 

[OneTruth]

Hitman 3

• Better framerate on the PS5

RE8

• That's 1 section. Stop being selective. Mean frame rate across the board is... a whopping 1fps difference. Amazing

Hitman 3 its only one section when PS5 have better famerate, but you too blind and dont see it....Hitman 3 is KO on PS5. Sorry. Try more hard...

 

[Sinthor]

Hitman 3 its only one section when PS5 have better famerate, but you too blind and dont see it....Hitman 3 is KO on PS5. Sorry. Try more hard...

We DO all realize, that when we're talking one system or another has an advantage in 'this game or that game' with both systems outperforming the other at times, or talking about sections of games like above with Hitman 3....that this just REINFORCES that these two systems are just pretty much dead even overall?

Kind of like most of us suspected from developer comments and such early on. Honestly, to me the biggest difference between the two SEEMS to be the loading time, etc., from the SSD's. That's the only thing that seems to be truly and consistently slanted one way or the other. Even there, there seem to be some inconsistencies early on in the generation. Very cool times to be a gamer!

 

[SlimySnake]

Riky's comment is super fucking weird but thats what happens when you all gang up on one dude and push a man too far. At this point, we know what Riky prefers so lets just move on instead of trying to have heated debates with him every single day. It's Riky who lost it today, it will be someone else tomorrow. Clearly he was a bit frazzled by the constant dogpiling. I think it's time for you all to start using the ignore feature a bit more. Trust me it helps.

 

[jroc74]

Riky's comment is super fucking weird but thats what happens when you all gang up on one dude and push a man too far. At this point, we know what Riky prefers so lets just move on instead of trying to have heated debates with him every single day. It's Riky who lost it today, it will be someone else tomorrow. Clearly he was a bit frazzled by the constant dogpiling. I think it's time for you all to start using the ignore feature a bit more. Trust me it helps.

Yeah, every once in awhile I'll slip up and see what someone on my ignore said to cause some of the responses. Its funny because if I respond and they respond to me...I won't know...unless I hit show ignored content...

I'm a glutton for punishment.

 

[Sinthor]

Riky's comment is super fucking weird but thats what happens when you all gang up on one dude and push a man too far. At this point, we know what Riky prefers so lets just move on instead of trying to have heated debates with him every single day. It's Riky who lost it today, it will be someone else tomorrow. Clearly he was a bit frazzled by the constant dogpiling. I think it's time for you all to start using the ignore feature a bit more. Trust me it helps.

Very true. We can all stand to benefit from the lesson. If you get to the point where you just have to throw something harsh out there and you've had enough.....just step away from the keyboard and come back another time or day. Not worth it and really not worth getting a penalty on a forum like this, just to get that last zinger out there!

 

[FranXico]

Riky's comment is super fucking weird but thats what happens when you all gang up on one dude and push a man too far. At this point, we know what Riky prefers so lets just move on instead of trying to have heated debates with him every single day. It's Riky who lost it today, it will be someone else tomorrow. Clearly he was a bit frazzled by the constant dogpiling. I think it's time for you all to start using the ignore feature a bit more. Trust me it helps.

I'm sorry, but there is no justification for that behavior.

 

[Neo Blaster]

MS wanted to make a Gamepass machine that is as cheap as possible. That's the entire point of the XSS. I personally think it's a bit too expensive, but once it reaches $250 and lower, it's gonna be a no-brainer for many people. The PS5DE is great value for money, but the games are fucking expensive (up to 100 dollars in some countries).

Once again trying to make a point for Gamepass...which fails considering not every game releases on the service day one. And if we are talking about old ones, PS users can subscribe to PS Now.

 

[MasterCornholio]

You can think of me as 12 if that what turns you on

Please don't make any paedophile jokes. What you said is just disgusting. There's no need to bring that kind of content just because you want to satisfy your console warring cravings.

 

[Garani]

Riky's comment is super fucking weird but thats what happens when you all gang up on one dude and push a man too far. At this point, we know what Riky prefers so lets just move on instead of trying to have heated debates with him every single day. It's Riky who lost it today, it will be someone else tomorrow. Clearly he was a bit frazzled by the constant dogpiling. I think it's time for you all to start using the ignore feature a bit more. Trust me it helps.

Just to quote Queen:

Mamaaa,
Just killed a man,
Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger,
Now he's dead
Mamaaa, life had just begun,
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
Mama, oooh,
Didn't mean to make you cry,
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow,
Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters

What he said does not warrant capital punishment, but there are lines that are meant not to be crossed. If he feels triggered by this forum, he could choose not to engage or just ignore certain people. Implying that someone commits a hidenous crime isn't a smart move.

 

[SlimySnake]

Saw this gif posted in the best looking console game thread and the lack of detail struck out to me immediately.

I remember being blown away by it three years ago but now all I notice is the lack of detail and how empty it feels.


And this is a launch window game. Do we know if they are using primitive shaders? There is a mesh shader demo that just came out today. Very similar to the UE5 PS5 demo. Something crazy like 8 billion polygons. I wonder if Insomniac is using the same tech here.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

Saw this gif posted in the best looking console game thread and the lack of detail struck out to me immediately.

I remember being blown away by it three years ago but now all I notice is the lack of detail and how empty it feels.


And this is a launch window game. Do we know if they are using primitive shaders? There is a mesh shader demo that just came out today. Very similar to the UE5 PS5 demo. Something crazy like 8 billion polygons. I wonder if Insomniac is using the same tech here.

I know Mesh/Primitive Shader’s are excellent for pushing intense amounts of geometry whilst also having huge performance gains.

There’s hardly any games right now which are leveraging Mesh Shaders and likewise the same with Primtive Shaders, there’s a big learning curve for developers when implementing such methods. We’ll have to wait for Insomniac’s GDC talk

 

[jroc74]

Saw this gif posted in the best looking console game thread and the lack of detail struck out to me immediately.

I remember being blown away by it three years ago but now all I notice is the lack of detail and how empty it feels.


And this is a launch window game. Do we know if they are using primitive shaders? There is a mesh shader demo that just came out today. Very similar to the UE5 PS5 demo. Something crazy like 8 billion polygons. I wonder if Insomniac is using the same tech here.

Thats whats so mind blowing about Rift Apart...its a launch window game. Even comparing it to the PS4 game, which already looked amazing and for it to look like a gen ahead is amazing.

I wouldn't be shocked if Insomniac are doing that with shaders, they didnt wait for UE5 to tap into data streaming so ...lol.

 

[MMachine99]

Saw this gif posted in the best looking console game thread and the lack of detail struck out to me immediately.

I remember being blown away by it three years ago but now all I notice is the lack of detail and how empty it feels.

God of War 2 with tessellated ground/rock, million polygon statues/Kratos, and ray traced particles +Dualsense = GOTG