and Sony has made such games
People's problems aren't with Sony making niche titles like Demon's Souls, Returnal, and Destruction All-Stars (LOL) exclusive to the PS5. Their anger comes from the big SYSTEM SELLERS being cross-platform. Ratchet has never been a system seller, even back in its origin on the PS2.
But major games like God of War and Gran Turismo? Those are the games that people would camp out to get a PS5 for. And they don't have to do that if they have a PS4.
Nice try rewriting history. Ratchet and Clank is the second best selling Playstation franchise of all time.
Since I'm 90% sure I know whose troll account you are, I also know that you know what I'm talking about, and that it has nothing to do with teraflops. Try harder
Mass Effect legendary Edition performance mode is a recent example...
They would write 10 page essays.
The only platformer franchise that is a system seller in the 21st Century is Mario.
Keep telling yourself that. Is Mario Kart the only racer that is a system seller too?
Ratchet and Clank also has like 16 entries in the franchise, so that would make sense.Nice try rewriting history. Ratchet and Clank is the second best selling Playstation franchise of all time.
Thank god he ain’t here for this thread, be huge posts about how it is good for ps5 sharing games with PS4They would write 10 page essays.
Thank god he ain’t here for this thread, be huge posts about how it is good for ps5 sharing games with PS4
Isn't there like 20 of them? Might have something to do with it lolNice try rewriting history. Ratchet and Clank is the second best selling Playstation franchise of all time.
Isn't there like 20 of them? Might have something to do with it lol
Because as been posted numerous times, Cerny himself said that games designed for the SSD wouldn’t be able to run on old hardware. Game design would change but because they are cross gen it’s holding back the extra feature he talked aboutWhy isn't it? More people get to play the games. Isn't that what people love to say about PC ports?
Thank god he ain’t here for this thread, be huge posts about how it is good for ps5 sharing games with PS4
Some posts were interesting to read but there was just to much waffle for a simple point and everything was anti XboxYes indeed. It’s a good job he’s not here.
Much loved and storied franchise. They kept making them because people kept buying them. That's what they call a "system seller."
Great games but I agree.Ratchet & Clank games are nice and everything, but nobody thinks of that franchise when they think about the triple AAA PlayStation first party system sellers.
God Of War is obviously a different story.
only because there are like 15 million different ratchet games on playstation. ;pNice try rewriting history. Ratchet and Clank is the second best selling Playstation franchise of all time.
Literally why?What a letdown lmao.
Word.Sony Japan need to wake the hell up and remove this guy.
Yeah sure but perf mode is 1440/60 on XSS and PS5, 120 on XSX.Even a BC non-native game like that the PS5 outperforms the series S. PS5 runs at 60fps in quality mode. Series S runs at 30fps.
There's still a possibility of GT8 being fully PS5 only. But that assumes Sony will launch another GT game during the PS5 era. If they do, GT8 would probably be around 2026 or 2027.Bruhhhh. Next-gen only GT7 was like my most anticipated game...
PD was talking about pushing 240 FPS not too long ago, now we're presented with this news...
There's still a possibility of GT8 being fully PS5 only. But that assumes Sony will launch another GT game during the PS5 era. If they do, GT8 would probably be around 2026 or 2027.
its native 4k 60 fps with ray tracing right now. which means they can hit 120 fps at 1440p with ray tracing and 240 fps at 1080p without ray tracing.Bruhhhh. Next-gen only GT7 was like my most anticipated game...
PD was talking about pushing 240 FPS not too long ago, now we're presented with this news...
People's problems aren't with Sony making niche titles like Demon's Souls, Returnal, and Destruction All-Stars (LOL) exclusive to the PS5. Their anger comes from the big SYSTEM SELLERS being cross-platform. Ratchet has never been a system seller, even back in its origin on the PS2.
But major games like God of War and Gran Turismo? Those are the games that people would camp out to get a PS5 for. And they don't have to do that if they have a PS4.
The only one that surprises me is GT7 because we were led to believe that it would be PS5 exclusive. I think Sony are fearful that they can’t manufacture enough PS5s to warrant releasing their biggest franchises on PS5 only. It’s a sensible move business wise, but they do need to set expectations correctly, even if gamers do tend to take it too far.
again, these games have been in development for years, well before final PS5 dev kits existed. Scope is much larger than ratchet. And these games simply sell a lot more. You can risk ratchet, DS, or returnal having less sales. Not something like horizon with 10+M in sales
and it’s not like god of war or horizon aren’t significantly upgraded by next gen. horizon is better arguably the best looking next gen game revealed
Unfortunately, there is more to it than that. I’m quite certain Sony had set their expected sales targets prior to covid19 turning everything to shit. The fact is, even if you wanted to buy a PS5 to play the latest games, you can’t and the shortage does not seem to be ending anytime soon.its not like once they made the game it will only be sold for a limited time is it? I can't see not being enough ps5's sold yet as an excuse for cross gen
The issue isn’t really that the games are cross gen (though they will suffer for having to run on very old hardware) it’s more that Sony weren’t up front and transparent about it, because they were trying to shift Ps5s. Shady shit.
Confused why you think this news will effect their ability to create a 240FPS mode.Bruhhhh. Next-gen only GT7 was like my most anticipated game...
PD was talking about pushing 240 FPS not too long ago, now we're presented with this news...
Confused why you think this news will effect their ability to create a 240FPS mode.
Unfortunately, there is more to it than that. I’m quite certain Sony had set their expected sales targets prior to covid19 turning everything to shit. The fact is, even if you wanted to buy a PS5 to play the latest games, you can’t and the shortage does not seem to be ending anytime soon.
The issue isn’t really that the games are cross gen (though they will suffer for having to run on very old hardware) it’s more that Sony weren’t up front and transparent about it, because they were trying to shift Ps5s. Shady shit.
You can run a game at 240 FPS even on a 60FPS device and get a benefit in control responsiveness.I don't think the PS5 even supports that though.
Back on topic folks. But valiant attempts at trying to derail the thread with Xbox Series S talk.
If GOW and GT7 are cross gen games in 2022, will Sony even more sequels that are full PS5 only games in 2027? The generation would be ending.
They might not even make another GOW or GT after those 2022 games.
You might have to wait until PS6 only games. And that assumes that don't make it cross gen with PS5.
There are lots of PS4 racing games that do all that.its native 4k 60 fps with ray tracing right now. which means they can hit 120 fps at 1440p with ray tracing and 240 fps at 1080p without ray tracing.
If anything, this game being last gen pretty much confirms you are going to get basically GT Sports at really high framerates or ray tracing.
No one is doing advanced next gen physics, destruction, ray tracing and weather simulations at 120 fps on a 10 tflops console next gen, let alone at 240 fps.
I honestly think there will be 2 GT games on ps5 if am honest. Once they have the first out they will fine tune there tech and get about her out befor the end of ps5s lifespanTrue, not only all Sony's studios are known to take their time, but PD and SSM are the ones who have the longest development times of them all. While I'm rather confident in SSM, they already went throught the process of reinvent ing the franchise, so all later installments should take less time than GoW4, but it's really hard for me to imagine PD delivering another GT on PS5 after GT7. And with PS4 being the base once again, I''m afraid it'll be just another outdated GT with pretty Graphics on top...
What PS4 racing game does raytracing?There are lots of PS4 racing games that do all that.
I was referring to destruction and weather. Ray tracing can obviously be added for the PS5 version like many other cross gen games have done.What PS4 racing game does raytracing?
Games not able to take full advantage of the hardware you say? Isn't that what this whole thread is about?