Bernd Lauert
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The people mentioning Steam don't have a point. Uncle Phil's statements don't become false just because Steam exists.
5 games in one + all the multi + all the dlc + on game pass. Nah. I don’t feel charged twice.Ok and the Halo MCC is different because? Remasters are charging twice too and both companies allow that shit.
So they have no mechanism to do that but criticize Sony for not doing that?There is no mechanism to do that built into those stores..
You are being obtuse.. people don't like Windows Store.. but people across Xbox / PC do in fact use it for crossbuy.. or GPU. Begrudgingly, but it's there.
Said every xbox fanboy ever.All this crap on this thread that i am seeing. Once e3 xbox in 3 days comes, i am gonna have a field day on this site (jk mods)
That is much better than spending 70$ per game, plus 60$ a year for ps+ just to play first party games.
Ratchet, demon soul, + 60 ps+ is already 200$. While xbox players get gamepass ultimate for 180$ a year, with all 1st party day 1, other day 1 games. Other gamepass games. Can play on pc. And on their phone.
One party managed to get 2 games and year ps+, while the other party got huge library of games and Xbox live 1 year for 180$.
Which has better value for consumers, tell me?
Dark Alliance is really interesting to me. Looks fun as hell but you know its gonna be a bit janky. Deffo picking it up when I'm through with R&C.Those two games are gonna give me, my family, and friends alot of hours of co-op fun. We are all getting tired of Hunt Showdown and Vermintide 2.
Well I do considering I've had them all before plus it ran like shit when I bought it.5 games in one + all the multi + all the dlc + on game pass. Nah. I don’t feel charged twice.
Both Sony and MS ask money for their games on Steam.The people mentioning Steam don't have a point. Uncle Phil's statements don't become false just because Steam exists.
FireeeeeIf I released a console with no first party exclusives I'd shut the fuck up and do something about it. That's me though.
Exactly right. I vastly prefer Steam, but I don't HAVE to buy any of my Xbox games on it if I don't want to as I've not had problems using the Xbox app to download any games. Before the Xbox app it was def. hit and miss whether the store would work properly or not and I remember having issues downloading Forza and Sea of Thieves, but since then, no problems.There is no mechanism to do that built into those stores..
You are being obtuse.. people don't like Windows Store.. but people across Xbox / PC do in fact use it for crossbuy.. or GPU. Begrudgingly, but it's there.
And yet what Uncle Phil said remains true.Both Sony and MS ask money for their games on Steam.
So they have no mechanism to do that but criticize Sony for not doing that?
Well he's right. With Play Anywhere and Smart Delivery you do buy the game once and play it on whatever playform that has Windows on it. I skipped PS4/XB1 gen, but some of their games I bought on PC during that time are now available on my XSX, with all the progression and save games. Just like that. Sony did nothing for me as a PC gamer, and even tho they have recently started porting their games to PC, it's not as user friendly, to say the least. But I understand that Sony wants to have as much people as possible on PS5 first and foremost, and the EGS/Steam releases are rather targeted towards people who wouldn't get the console anyway, but thean again, with such strategy they'll never convice PC gamers into their console.
Nice with the old narrative games. Just say you don't give a shit about gamepas, instead of talking crap about it.So you’ve changed your narrative to Better value and not free now, ok.
When I look at the games on offer on game pass theyre mostly old games that can be bought a bargain bin prices or stuff most of us have played last gen already unless living on the moon last gen. Until they actually release those big games that they keep promising on it, then it’s a service
To play old games.
No major 3rd party games launch on it bar outriders which isn’t even triple A and they can’t even get a single game of their own to launch on it yet.
You are a game pass fanatic astrosurfer.
So both are the same.They created a mechanism for it, it's called Windows Store.. and GPU... and are stating that advantage to consumers over competitors (Well Sony.)
They can't create a mechanism for other stores... it's quite likely they've talked to Valve about it, as has been rumored though.
Sony could create their own mechanism if they wanted to... or also talk to other stores.. like the one from a company they part own, if they wanted to.
It's a current advantage to consumers.. that's it, that's the point.
They don't want to sell consoles. They want you in their ecosystem.And on the opposite end if the spectrum I owned their last 2 consoles and will never buy another Xbox console as long as they treat another platform I already game on (the PC) like their primary platform.
So I'm not sure why anyone would think they are doing a better job of convincing PC gamers to buy their consoles when they are literally telling you not to bother.
In what world are both the same?So both are the same.
Call me when Uncle Phil allow crossbuy between stores.
Nice with the old narrative games. Just say you don't give a shit about gamepas, instead of talking crap about it.
I am proud to be a gamepass cuck, since I get more value with my money. Insstead of having to spend 70$. And old games is better than spending too much money.
You do you man.
\Nobody is buying Windows for Playstation games
They've been saying it for a while now. Quite a while. They don't care what you play on, it's all the same ecosystem to them. It's the right move. You don't want their console? Cool, you're still in the ecosystem.And on the opposite end if the spectrum I owned their last 2 consoles and will never buy another Xbox console as long as they treat another platform I already game on (the PC) like their primary platform.
So I'm not sure why anyone would think they are doing a better job of convincing PC gamers to buy their consoles when they are literally telling you not to bother.
MS give a PC copy in their own OS with a Store.In what world are both the same?
Microsoft gives you a PC copy of a game, when you buy it for Xbox.
Sony does not give you a PC copy of a game, when you buy it on Playstation.
This "durrrr but what about Steam, Gog, Itch.io, Rockstar Launcher, Torrent Sites, My Mom's Myspace page... durrrrr" thing is really.... durrrrr lol
News news news. Bethesda fan guy is an old xbox fan. News news news.Said every xbox fanboy ever.
They don't want to sell consoles. They want you in their ecosystem.
How is he full of shit? He is factually correct.So why the ask money for the Steam/EGS/GOG release of their games?
He is just full of shit again.
Sony could easily release a digital storefront like how they have a PSNow app on PC, and like how many publishers have their own distribution platform on PC (Origin, UPlay, EGS, GOG) Nothing's stopping them. Doesn't mean it has to be popular like how the Windows Store isn't. The fact that it's there as an option for PC game downloads makes what Phil is saying correct...MS give a PC copy in their own OS with a Store.
Sony doesn’t have a OS with a Store to do that.
Both are equal and ask money in all their releases in 3rd-party stores.
Uncle Phil just full of shit again.
Uncle Phil is correct. Buy an Xbox game, play for free on PC day one. Thats the advantage for the consumer.MS give a PC copy in their own OS with a Store.
Sony doesn’t have a OS with a Store to do that.
Both are equal and ask money in all their releases in 3rd-party stores.
Uncle Phil just full of shit again.
No. They don’t and probably won’t.Sony could easily release a digital storefront like how they have a PSNow app on PC, and like how many publishers have their own distribution platform on PC (Origin, UPlay, EGS, GOG) Nothing's stopping them. Doesn't mean it has to be popular like how the Windows Store isn't. The fact that it's there as an option for PC game downloads makes what Phil is saying correct...
I mean Sony putting half of their exclusives on the the PS4 doesn't make their situation that much better. But I guess Guerrilla games needs that money to cover the cost of that water they spent a year and a half to fucking make.It's a sign of desperation when you start firing shots at your competitors.
Maybe he should focus his attention on releasing a single half decent exclusive for the XsX.
They don't want to sell consoles
MS give a PC copy in their own OS with a Store.
Sony doesn’t have a OS with a Store to do that.
Both are equal and ask money in all their releases in 3rd-party stores.
Uncle Phil just full of shit again.
5 games in one + all the multi + all the dlc + on game pass. Nah. I don’t feel charged twice.
Halo ce runs better on series X than on the original Xbox? Hum.. I wonder why.Well I do considering I've had them all before plus it ran like shit when I bought it.
Arent you guys doing exactly that after every Xbox showing and still end up with no worth while games to play?All this crap on this thread that i am seeing. Once e3 xbox in 3 days comes, i am gonna have a field day on this site (jk mods)
what sony lack is a pc store and SEN, PSN or whatever the name now there, not an os.MS give a PC copy in their own OS with a Store.
Sony doesn’t have a OS with a Store to do that.
Both are equal and ask money in all their releases in 3rd-party stores.
Uncle Phil just full of shit again.
It's still an advantage that the competitor doesn't have. It might be useless for you but worth something to others.And in that case it's all good from where I'm sitting.
So let's not pretend that suddenly PC gamers are buying Xbox consoles in droves because if you own games on the windows store you also "own" them on Xbox.
Last time I checked, most PC gamers don't use the windows store to purchase games, and they certainly aren't running out to buy a console to play exactly the same games with less control and worse settings.
You are a game pass cuck since 80% if your posts are game pass advertising, I’m glad we agree.
I hope the mods give you the tag game pass cuck..
Old games narrative? Am I wrong? No ok.
I bought it for convenience and Greggy you can say whatever the fuck you want but to me they charged me twice so fuck off.Halo ce runs better on series X than on the original Xbox? Hum.. I wonder why.
if you’ve had them all before only you can explain why you’d buy MCC. It came day one on game pass and all those games are individually optimised on newer hardware. Nobody charged you twice.
If I released a console with no first party exclusives I'd shut the fuck up and do something about it. That's me though.
How in the hell is that the same? In one you have the option, with the other you don't.What's so confusing about that?MS give a PC copy in their own OS with a Store.
Sony doesn’t have a OS with a Store to do that.
Both are equal and ask money in all their releases in 3rd-party stores.
Uncle Phil just full of shit again.
MS give a PC copy in their own OS with a Store.
Sony doesn’t have a OS with a Store to do that.
Both are equal and ask money in all their releases in 3rd-party stores.
Uncle Phil just full of shit again.