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Serious question, do you think Apple copied Nintendo?

I am talking about the use of a touch screen on a modern home device. I believe nintendo made the ds before the first ever smartphone, known as the iphone. I understand before that touch screens existed, but they were never really used in such a way, think slot machines etc. I never hear anyone really bring that up, discuss.
 

Punished Miku

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I am talking about the use of a touch screen on a modern home device. I believe nintendo made the ds before the first ever smartphone, known as the iphone. I understand before that touch screens existed, but they were never really used in such a way, think slot machines etc. I never hear anyone really bring that up, discuss.
There were blackberries as well and stylus devices. Nintendo DS was a massively popular device so maybe it slightly helped, but probably not directly in any major way. The vision apple had was pretty different in multiple ways.
 

Javthusiast

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I think Apple was always gunning for a touchscreen type computer, given their track records. As soon as the tech caught up, big surprise, it was a major success.
 

Duchess

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Apple were working on the iPhone for a long time.

Steve Jobs used to use a Blackberry, with that little keyboard. He hated it and wanted something easier.

Apple took a "top down" approach the making the iPhone, where they designed the UX and then built the hardware around that. There's little things, such as only have icons to press; the home button taking you back to the launcher, so you never get lost; the single hardware switch to mute it, etc. Apple copied a lot of things, but they didn't copy the DS for the iPhone.

(Google were actually making a Blackberry rip off before they bought the company that was making Android)
 

Rossco EZ

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I am talking about the use of a touch screen on a modern home device. I believe nintendo made the ds before the first ever smartphone, known as the iphone. I understand before that touch screens existed, but they were never really used in such a way, think slot machines etc. I never hear anyone really bring that up, discuss.
 

kuncol02

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I am talking about the use of a touch screen on a modern home device. I believe nintendo made the ds before the first ever smartphone, known as the iphone. I understand before that touch screens existed, but they were never really used in such a way, think slot machines etc. I never hear anyone really bring that up, discuss.
WHAT
THE
FUCK?
 

yurinka

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I am talking about the use of a touch screen on a modern home device. I believe nintendo made the ds before the first ever smartphone, known as the iphone. I understand before that touch screens existed, but they were never really used in such a way, think slot machines etc. I never hear anyone really bring that up, discuss.
As usual, Nintendo also copied it, they didn't create it.

I worked on mobile gaming for a while and our studio made casual games for mobile phones with touchscreen before the iPhone and Nintendo DS existed. The games market for mobile phones started around 2000 (maybe a year or two later depending on the carrier and country) and maybe a year later there already were (or at least I saw for the first time, maybe there were previous ones) phones with touch screen using stylus, like the PDAs were using before them.

Nintendo and Apple copied these early devices because they saw there a new, growing market with a lot of potential there.

Apple Smartphone display is multitouch screen not stylus/pen screen
Yes, first the phones started using stylus, then they started to make a new type of screen where you were able to use your fingers instead of a stylus. And after that they started to support multi touch first with 2 points and later they kept adding more. All of them before Nintendo or Apple used them.

Not sure if the first iPod Touch/iPhone were multitouch, but I'd bet it wasn't the case.
 
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Are apple products overpriced with shitty build quality as well?
Yes.

The failure to fix the joycon reminds me a lot of the butterfly keyboard Apple did. And the time they took to fix it as well.

And similarly, it wasn't always like that.


They're very similar companies when it comes to some philosophies of not listening to costumers, deliberately keeping features out and so on.

As for Nintendo influencing Apple directly, I can't think of a time that they did; but again, given their philosophies, they always overlapped a bit, the closest I can think of is Gameboy Special Edition (1995) and Gameboy pocket (1996) having clear colors that preceded the iMac/iBook range for a few years.

Then again, Sega Saturn also had clear versions, so I don't think it was a direct inspiration by any means.

As for the DS and the touch screen, I don't think it has any relation with the iPhone (specially seing we're talking capacitive vs multi-touch), BUT, both the iPhone and the Wii were on the same page in regards to what they wanted to do with their interface at first. Both wanted apps to behave like channels (and this was before app stores launched), same wavelenght. Their home screen ethos was the same and the Wii actually released first.

Different results though, the Wii was sluggish and never quite delivered their vision. But then again they don't release new hardware every year, iPhone 1 didn't deliver much either, but it was a better proof of concept still.
 
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RoadHazard

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Uh no. There were touchscreen phones long before the DS, they just weren't very good (just as the DS wasn't actually a good touch device).
 

jigglet

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Shitty resistive touch screens have been around for ages.

Apple was the first one to do a mass market capacitive one.
 

baphomet

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What a stupid fucking thread.

iPhone the first smart phone? DS the first touch screen in a consumer device?

Were you even alive before these released?
 
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