CapnAmaricrunch
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turned 62 yesterday, why? How old is the average person on these forums?
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Serious question, do you think Apple copied Nintendo?
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demigod
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Apple has had a touchscreen computer since at least 1995 when i was in junior high. Our science class had it and the teacher would let the kids touch it for lectures.
PhaseJump
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PDAs like the Apple Newton, Palm devices, and PocketPCs existed. Wacom tablets and the pen stylus existed.
CapnAmaricrunch
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You young punks realize I know we had touch screens a long time ago, its Nintendo that poppularized on a home device. Nintendo DS -154 Million Units Sold
Tschumi
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Please doYou young punks realize I know we had touch screens a long time ago, its Nintendo that poppularized on a home device. Nintendo DS -154 Million Units Sold
Let the thread die duder, let it die
the origin came from Jobs hating a guy at Microsoft
Apple newton is from 1993. I yet remember some Nintendo fanboys complaining that AirPlay on iPad was copied from Wii U functionality with the gamepad. When Wii U was announced 1 day later apple releasing a beta firmware with Airplay.
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CapnAmaricrunch
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Just admit apple blatantly imitated Nintendo. All art is imitation to an extent, even imitation is innovation at times.
TLZ
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Why are you specifically picking Apple like nothing existed before it or Nintendo? Neither them no Nintendo were the first. In fact, Nintendo is never the first in anything. They use old tech and sell them cheap for a reason.
I remember having a PDA way before that. Like mid to late 90s I think. I'm not sure from which company. It was so cool back then.
TLZ
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So why don't you say Nintendo imitated PDAs from the 90s? Since all art is imitation and innovation?
PhaseJump
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WitchHunter
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CapnAmaricrunch
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niche devices that barely sold are somewhat irrelevant
ds came out 3 years b4 i phone
ds sold an astronomical amount - (160 million)
lets connect the dots, it doesnt take high level thinking
ds came out 3 years b4 i phone
ds sold an astronomical amount - (160 million)
lets connect the dots, it doesnt take high level thinking
CapnAmaricrunch
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Just like the dpad
Just like the rumble pack
Just like joysticks
they all existed but it took nintendos application to make it standard and mainstream
Just like the rumble pack
Just like joysticks
they all existed but it took nintendos application to make it standard and mainstream
John Wick
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So here's a question did Nintendo invent touch screen?
No. End of.
Other devices existed well before Nintendo did it.
This has to be one of the silliest questions ever.
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Actually OP everything cool in gaming was invented by Nintendo. You happy?
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CapnAmaricrunch
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Sony invented OLED, samsung and lg are better known for OLED, it happens all the time where one company innovates the other takes all the glory.
TLZ
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That's not how it works. Your question was who copied who. Clearly Nintendo copied an existing tech that became old and cheap enough for them to do something with.
What they actually did with the tech is cool.
01011001
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uhm... there were touch based smart devices literally decades before the iPhone came out
and also no, Sony did not invent OLED... that was invented by a few british students and the first OLED device made was made by Kodak in the 80s I think
edit: the first bigger screens were apparently made by Pioneer, but I was right, Kodak was the first to make smaller OLED tech.
edit: nope Kodak also made the first bigger screens...
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akaFullmetal
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Wth is this?
Takes 5 seconds to Google to know this isn't true if you didn't know already.
Trimesh
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My guess is that Apple had been thinking about this for some time, but concluded they didn't want to use a resistive touch panel (easy to damage, hard to operate with just your fingers, incapable of handling more than dual touch) - so the thing that triggered the development of what became the iPhone was Cypress's announcement of a single-chip low power projected capacitance touch controller (incidentally, that's also probably the real reason that the iPhone had a 3.2" screen - that was the maximum size you could address using a single chip).
BouncyFrag
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Not just Apple...
Rean no Kiseki
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Elbow Identity Shallow
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So it's not that they copied them by using a touch screen on a device, it's that they copied them by selling millions of these devices?
Bryank75
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Jobs went to Japan and got a Walkman, which we all know was made by Nintendo..... he loved the clean design language and really studied it.
He always tried to apply that philosophy of simplicity, few buttons and clean looking design language and touch screen fitted that...... but the wheel interface on ipod came before the touch-screen was ready and that was quite intuitive.
But yeah....Nintendo is great, they make great TV's and they even have a bank now....they should call it Mario Bank. (People might be mean and call it Mario wank though!)
He always tried to apply that philosophy of simplicity, few buttons and clean looking design language and touch screen fitted that...... but the wheel interface on ipod came before the touch-screen was ready and that was quite intuitive.
But yeah....Nintendo is great, they make great TV's and they even have a bank now....they should call it Mario Bank. (People might be mean and call it Mario wank though!)
underwater
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The PDA market was pretty big from the mid 90s up to the early 00s. Palm PDAs sold millions of units, anything but niche.
TheDreadLord
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Yeah, I think Apple copied Nintendo. Both produce over priced pierces of tech and have a cult around it.
John Wick
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Your spot on with your last comment. It aptly applies to you and this troll thread
Eddie-Griffin
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You lost me when you said the iphone was the first smartphone.
The DS had a stylus on a capacitive screen, and it was worse than some of the stylus phones.
Eddie-Griffin
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No, but they set up a ball for the successors to spike it. Iphone wasn't as popular as people revise initially.
Elbow Identity Shallow
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It's probably just as accurate to claim that Nintendo copied me as I could see in 3D long before they copied me and released the 3DS.
Eddie-Griffin
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Lol all three of those were already things, you might have an argument for standardization for only the first one though. But rumble and joysticks are a joke, joysticks were everywhere.
Literally millions of stylus devices sold before DS. Hundreds of millions.You young punks realize I know we had touch screens a long time ago, its Nintendo that poppularized on a home device. Nintendo DS -154 Million Units Sold
It's just a game system man.
DigitalScrap
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So wait a minute. Apple came out with the Newton before Nintendo. Yes, the Newton was a flop (and barely worked at times - I wanted to throw the one I had access to at the wall often). But because Nintendo went on to sell 154 million units of their touchscreen device, then when Apple improved upon their own original concept that means they copied Nintendo? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense...You young punks realize I know we had touch screens a long time ago, its Nintendo that poppularized on a home device. Nintendo DS -154 Million Units Sold
Oh, and thanks for calling me a young punk. At 49, I don't hear that anymore. Makes me feel good.
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Oddvintagechap
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The only company Steve Jobs admired was Sony.
“Buoyed by resentment and an almost pathological hatred of styluses, Jobs and his team got to work on creating the prototype of a working multitouch display. Said display, eventually, would go on to serve as a touchpoint for future iPhone designs.”
No he didnt copy the DS. Maybe he played with one, and hated it so much he pushed for a multitouch display.
“Buoyed by resentment and an almost pathological hatred of styluses, Jobs and his team got to work on creating the prototype of a working multitouch display. Said display, eventually, would go on to serve as a touchpoint for future iPhone designs.”
No he didnt copy the DS. Maybe he played with one, and hated it so much he pushed for a multitouch display.
RCU005
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Apple couldn’t have copied Nintendo, because the innovation of the iPhone wasn’t the touch screen, but the capacitive touchscreen and multi-touch that wasn’t used before, even replacing the keyboard altogether.
There might have been multi-touch before the iPhone, but I believe the iPhone’s was the first one that was very precise and responding.
Nintendo did innovate with the DS having a touch screen that was used to play games like never before and allowed for casual people to jump into gaming. Which led to the idea of the Wii most likely.
There might have been multi-touch before the iPhone, but I believe the iPhone’s was the first one that was very precise and responding.
Nintendo did innovate with the DS having a touch screen that was used to play games like never before and allowed for casual people to jump into gaming. Which led to the idea of the Wii most likely.
NewYork214
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My mom was faster with qwerty back in 2002, when I was 11. She tried typing the gameshark codes in by touching my TV screen like a dope. Maybe she invented it 
AlteredForms
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OP wants an excuse to gouge himself on Nintendo's ballsack that much more. Let's all agree that Apple stole the concept to make him happy.
