treemk
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It has to do with how Microsoft handles games long term.
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Forza Motorsport 7 is Reaching End of Life: Sepember 15 2021 you will no longer be able to buy this game or its DLC
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It has to do with how Microsoft handles games long term.
01011001
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tell me a Sony MP only game that is still online and playable today.
tell me a PS3 game that is still playable online today
you can't
and again, no, this has nothing to do with anything of the sort. this is simply cat licenses running out
treemk
Banned
lol @ bringing up Sony, I'm not a console war fanboy. I don't like how Microsoft handles software.
Microsoft is not competing with Sony, they are competing with the entire game publishing model. It's like Netflix vs. old school TV and moves.
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Gabbar Singh
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If you can find a physical copy of Ultimate edition for sale then you can get the DLC's for FH3 as they are all on there.
ReBurn
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01011001
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I used sony to show that this has nothing to do with gamepass and this is nothing new. every game that heavily uses licenses will face this fate and it has zero to do with Microsoft handles games. you cna still play most of their games today even online
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Outrunner
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Don't you just love when people complain over nothing, Microsoft is doing good, they didn't have to do this pretty cool incentive but they have (even though I've never purchased dlc, as far as I am aware)
Edit: retail copies are not going to magically vanish either...they will still work too.
No? Microsoft promised that all first party titles would remain permanently on Game Pass. This was a first party title, people bought DLC for it because they believed the game would be permanently available through Game Pass. What kind of backlash do you think they would get now if they just ran away with the money people wasted on DLC and how much trust do you think that would inspire on people thinking about buying DLC for Game Pass games?
Esppiral
Member
Ok it's time to buy the cheapest dlc available lolI just got a message from Xbox about it:
Free - nice
Nozz-A-La
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Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
So will the DLC go on sale too? Should I hurriedly go purchase the stuff I don't have?
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
talking about Motorsport not horizon
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onesvenus
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Can you? A search for gran Turismo on the PlayStation store only shows gran turismo sport
I think so, see my comment to the other poster in this same post. They can't be found on the PlayStation store
TheGrat1
Member
Warhawk and Demon's Souls are running on fan servers, you can play them today. Battlefield 3 is still going. Those are just 3 of the games I have.
I found this too:
makaveli60
Member
But I guess only a sealed copy would work as they are codes, not on disc.
I did the opposite. I’ve bought all the Forza games since then, so I am able to enjoy them whenever I like.
anthony2690
Banned
You obviously just want a reason to bitch and moan, so I'm not even going to waste my time.
Here I was thinking era was the website for pretend outrage over nothing lol.
On Xbox you can still play Forza motorsport 2 online too... Surprisingly
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EDMIX
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News - Forza
Discover the latest Forza news from the teams behind the Forza Horizon and Forza Motorsport series of games.forzamotorsport.net
Don't you just love it when games are delisted a mere 4 years after it launched....
Ok...so when we heard MS was doing some DRM, online only console, let me remind folks that THIS was what they fucking had a plan for. So its clear that with a digital only concept, MS, EA, Activision would be going HAM on this shit lol Every time a AC, Call Of Duty, Madden, new Forza etc would come out, they'd just stop people from buying the older ones lol
A ACESHIGH Sure, but they can just release it without those tracts, but then again I don't really know all the details to that, like maybe its locked in based on some weird contract lol
I don't know.
Sucks regardless.
Let me just get it out of my system, um "but MS waNts to pResErve dA gAmEZ" lol
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Kagey K
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You’ll still be able to do everything you can do now in the game, even after this date.
The only difference will be that new people can’t buy it.
JLB
Banned
? Has nothing to do with digital or not.As always: DIGITAL FUTURE baby.
In fact, im fully capable to redownload all forzas.
MrFunSocks
Banned
It's not their fault, it's the car manufacturers faults. Nothing MS can do about it other than continue to pay for licenses that likely cost more than any sales they'll make on a 4 year old game.
Licensing sucks.
It only really applies to digital, since they stop making physical copies long before 4 years after release. Gran Turismo has only had like 3 actual digitally available games (5, 6, Sport), whereas forza has had like 10 by this point.
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MrFunSocks
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double post
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Can you buy gran turismos 1 to 6 on Sony platforms from their stores? This happens to almost every single game with licenses. If they are not renewed its either remove the licensed content or delist the game. And in a game like Forza or GT you can't just modify 750+ cars to keep the game in a storefront.
Stuart360
Member
Yeah unfortunately its the same with Codemasters racers too, except i belive its 6 years before they take their games off of sale.
I hate it but its an unfortuante part of the industry, and its probably going to get worse with the music industry tightening their grip even more these days.
Its purely a business decision though, a shit one, but an understandable one. With the amount of cars and music track there are in Forza games, the probable millions it would take to renew the licenses is simply not being met by the sales for these years old games.
EDMIX
Member
I see, I had a feeling it wasn't just a "keep the music off and the game good" lol
Sounds too simple and those legal issues can be crazy. This shit makes me never want licensed shit in those games lol
Stuart360
Member
Especially with all the DMCA shit recently. I dont know why studios dont just make their own music from now on, or pay a band to make the music.
I certainly couldnt care less about licensed music in these games, especially when music today is pretty shit, 90% of it anyway.
Hawke502
Member
Man, this thread takes the crown of the thread with the most shit takes on this forum. Like:
How this has anything to do with Gamepass when its also leaving Gamepass? And since you mentioned Sony, good luck playing Drive Club, at least FM7 servers will still be online.
eyesabitdull
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No seriously, what the hell are you doing in this thread if you can't be bothered to read the OP, get an understanding of what the thread is about and comprehend what the key information is?
Are you daft? Maybe a little special? You should tell us because i'm sure most of us don't recognize you, and maybe you are slow and we need to break it down for you a little betterr.
We definitely don't want someone with your cognitive issues to live their lives walking around like they understand everything while knowing nothing, so do inform us and we'll accommodate :/
flashfire926
Member
Wait, what does this have to do with gamepass again?
Forza has always been on the 4 year delist cycle from quite early on. This isnt anything new.
Forza has always been on the 4 year delist cycle from quite early on. This isnt anything new.
Hawke502
Member
People are too dumb or trolling. By this logic MS would be delisting every first party game on gamepass, which makes no sense.
Motorsport 4 has an final edition disc release that had all the cars on it. Unlike an online license you can rebuy if you it for sale.
downside of disc-based Forza is I don’t think they’re backwards compatible.
it’s not much better on the Sony side as the disc based racers from PS4 (while BC) are online focused and never got complete edition discs.
a shitty state of affairs if you’re a racing game fan.
Hawke502
Member
The dics are backwards compatible on Xbox, is this something specific for Forza?
Forza 1 Xbox can play on 360. Forza Motorsport 4 360 can’t play on xbone.
dunno about the rest.
Gabbar Singh
Member
No because the DLC came on the disc and not as codes.
EDMIX
Member
Well I don't know about all that.
I don't see any evidence this is a MS thing as suppose to a licensing thing. We've seen this licensing issue from Sony, Rockstar, EA, Activision and MS and many more, I mean I felt it was as easy as just don't have that music and you good to go, but that is trivializing this situation and making it sound like its some easy fix lol
I don't think Sony, MS, Rockstar, EA and many more just don't want to make money, but that an issue comes up that is very fucking hard to go around causes them to remove a game.
I don't see enough to say this is some MS policy that they alone do or something.
In order to first understand how unique something is, one first must see how often it happens to others.
Stuart360
Agreed. I wish they'd just have a back up where the contract states after it lapses they'll use different music or something, I don' t really get why those contracts lock it in as if it then can't be sold without that music or something. Keep in mind, I have nothing against music artist appearing on video games as I feel culturally it fits and helps everyone. The world gets more real feel and vibe, the artist gets recognized, its not all the time I learn of a band from a video game, but I became a MASSIVE Mastodon fan from hearing a track from Tony Hawk and have been a fan of ever album for almost 20 years, so its a great outlet for new artist to get discovered, but that shit is some train wreck when it comes to licensing and it seems no one really has a policy that makes sense from it. I don't want people to miss out on great music, but shit I also want people to be able to still download great games in the future too.
Looks like the answer really might be some custom tracks or even deals for exclusive rights to something. I'm sure MS or EA would pay to have Drake do a track for some game lol
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xrnzaaas
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I know it doesn't change things for existing users, but not being able to buy a new digital Forza Motorsport for probably about a year (I'm assuming FM8 is coming in Q3/Q4 of next year) looks bad and it won't help in introducing new players to the series. Plus not being able to buy DLC's will hurt if you're playing and enjoying the game and want more content.
I'm hoping that GTS stays active at least until GT7 comes out since GT6 was delisted a little over four years after it came out.
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Silent Viper
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Tbh if you or anyone of you who are upset by this news cared about Forza Motorsport or was intersted in playing it then you all would have bought it by now. So stop it. Ok?
If you have not bought the game in 4 years that means you don't care and you just doing concerned trolling.
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Negotiator101
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Years later? You like Forza Horizon but you don't buy it for years after release? So when 5 comes out you'll be playing Horizon 3?
Memorabilia
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This isn't a thing specific to Microsoft/Xbox. It's a digital licensing thing. You'd be better off bitching at the license holders for various car brands and music...
Memorabilia
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I mean, to be fair, this is pretty common especially with people who have massive backlogs and/or like to save money by purchasing older games with a large discount.Years later? You like Forza Horizon but you don't buy it for years after release? So when 5 comes out you'll be playing Horizon 3?
Memorabilia
Member
Uh oh, watch out and stand back everyone a verified Sony Warrior (TM) has entered the fray...Thgought they were commited to game preservation.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Why not renew them? Does ms not have the money?
Negotiator101
Member
That's usually months not years.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
The thing is, who hasn’t bought it 4 year/s after release that doesn’t want to play it? I get it sucks when it happens but its an Xbox one game we are in the next gen. Discs will still be circulatiing to buy. But yeah a 4 year old game that probably isn’t selling still so its no biggy at all
