packy34
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They tried before Proton existed.They already tried and failed
They tried before Proton existed.They already tried and failed
I swear I heard this before...If steam deck is successful, we are bound to see a new type steam console class of hardware.
The idea behind the deck is to get other hardware manufacturers to make the deck once the software platform is established. And if valve can get the software/hardware working we will see a console in the same vein within a year or two.
This will make the entry level pc-console much much more accessible, cheaper to the big masses.
Just think when you can buy a steam deck, steam console from cheap brands like asus, lg, msi, lenovo, tcl,
Its going to be the new gaming standard like dvd.
Closed walled garden. But you seem like the kind of person who never played on an open system before. So obviously you have no idea why the difference is there. PS5 is priced assuming you will only pay Sony money to run games. Deck is open so you could not be relied on to ever buy a single Steam game for it. Consoles are basically given away.I'm comparing it to what a $399 Digital PS5 has to offer which is the same price as the lowest Deck model. Anyway, let's wait and see.
The idea behind the deck is to get other hardware manufacturers to make the deck once the software platform is established. And if valve can get the software/hardware working we will see a console in the same vein within a year or two.
This will make the entry level pc-console much much more accessible, cheaper to the big masses.
Just think when you can buy a steam deck, steam console from cheap brands like asus, lg, msi, lenovo, tcl,
Its going to be the new gaming standard like dvd.
it was half assed.
The deck is the forerunner for an new platform standard.
doubt.jpegit was half assed.
The deck is the forerunner for an new platform standard.
it was half assed.
The deck is the forerunner for an new platform standard.
Yes, let's have them ship prebuilt PCs with SteamOS preinstalled again. Worked out wonderfully last time.They should have done the console first, because deck is not going to be successful
I think the lot of you are delusional and are not seeing the big picture.
Steam set top box is the future standard of gaming.
Isn’t that Steam Machines? They already tried that. I just think they want to carve out a new product category for PC gaming. Portable PC gaming.
I wouldn't touch steam hardware with a 10ft pole. They never support their products. Deja Vue with a valve Steam Machine.
Uh...A Steam console has no sense.
Consoles are mostly about OS, support, libraries, drivers, development tools, not hardware. Valve has almost nothing of this.
People need to get past this..Isn’t that Steam Machines? They already tried that. I just think they want to carve out a new product category for PC gaming. Portable PC gaming.
Well put.People need to get past this..
Valve tried steam machines, they had to run Linux hoping devs would show support for Linux.... that did not happen thus it was destined to fail
Valve has spent the years since on Proton, making compatibility on Linux for these games about as flawless as it can be without direct developer support...that solves the problem
paving the way for their second attempt to be a success.. Nobody was going to buy a steam machine that only played a fraction of the games library..
but if costs are in line with other consoles(and seeing how AMD has made them an APU for Deck I'd imagine that's going to be the case) AND compatibilty is no longer an issue.. the time is right.
good post.Trip Hawkin's 3DO vision would finally be realized.
TBH I think we're at a point technology-wise where that idea COULD become a reality, as these consoles are pretty much capable of photorealism and it's actually game budget & time that dictate how good visuals can get now, not so much the technology (specifically with Microsoft & Sony's systems).
Of course the big issue with 3DO was, since the manufacturers made no money on software, they had to do it through hardware, and it made the system prohibitively expensive no matter which one you picked. Valve kind of ran into a similar problem with Steam Machines years back; they simply can't repeat that mistake again. So, there has to be some incentive for manufacturers of such a system to keep prices around console-level and not skimp out on specs.
I guess this would mean Valve changing some of the terms of their own royalty cut from Steam sales; the overall cut could still stay at 30% but Valve themselves would have to get a smaller portion and allow Lenovo, Asus, Acer, MSI etc. to get some of that cut. Valve would still have to pay for R&D, but they can then sell the design to those other guys on licenses, kind of like how ARM does. If Epic can get by with 10% of the cut from software sales, surely Valve can, while they split the remaining 20% among 3-4 other manufacturers (my picks would be Lenovo, Asus, and MSI primarily).
Either that or, gamers become comfortable with $600 consoles in the near future because that's around the price Microsoft and Sony would be selling the Series X and PS5 if they wanted to make profit on them from Day 1. If gamers come to accept that pricing then I can see Valve keeping their regular business model, maybe reducing their cut a bit anyway, and having more partners just build their own variants selling them at a slight profit, but they'd still need an additional financial incentive and that's where Valve would have to get really creative.
There are options but, like I said, they'd have to really think outside the box for them.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me… what is it when you happily get fooled 6 times
No, no. It'd be a console you can carry around as well. Probably with a handle. It'd definitely be the GabeCube.Gabecast 64
No, no. It'd be a console you can carry around as well. Probably with a handle. It'd definitely be the GabeCube.
That's a brilliant idea. Creating walled gardens for PC too. Everyone should rejoice. Plus certain incompetent hardware manufacturers who casually forget to release driver updates . What could go wrong.If steam deck is successful, we are bound to see a new type steam console class of hardware.
The idea behind the deck is to get other hardware manufacturers to make the deck once the software platform is established. And if valve can get the software/hardware working we will see a console in the same vein within a year or two.
This will make the entry level pc-console much much more accessible, cheaper to the big masses.
Just think when you can buy a steam deck, steam console from cheap brands like asus, lg, msi, lenovo, tcl,
Its going to be the new gaming standard like dvd.
Doesn't support Tb3 as far as I know, very few amd builds do and don't think tb4 (which should be more open) is finalised.Could they use the steam deck in conjunction with an eGPU style set-up? Not sure the tech is there yet, or if they could add more grunt to the external set up beyond a GPU.