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[Umbasaborne]

So after the 60 fps update, it seems that ac odyssey is officially series x enhanced, recieving the label on my games and apps as well. However now its forcing me to transfer the game over to my ssd which has precious little space. If all they did was unlock the frame rate, i dont understand why it needs to use my ssd to run properly. It was running fine at 60 fps on my external hard drive just a week ago.

 

[cormack12]

That's odd, although wasn't it only using fps boost previously?

Must just be using the label as a requirement for an ssd like a wmi filter summat.

Anyone else complaining about it? Figured it might affect a lot of people?

 

[ReBurn]

Maybe they did more than unlock the frame rate. Can't you move something else to the external drive to make room if you want to play it?

 

[Jaysen]

That's odd, although wasn't it only using fps boost previously?

Must just be using the label as a requirement for an ssd like a wmi filter summat.

Anyone else complaining about it? Figured it might affect a lot of people?

I don’t think it ever had boost support. I remember months ago considering buying it but didnt because it didn’t have a 60fps option. Glad I waited because now it’s gorgeous and runs great, and I only paid 15 bucks.

 

[Sleepwalker]

The label probably acts as some sort of filter. Most likely ubisoft unlocked the framerate and then went "voila, enhanced" so it got the sticker and basically banned it from your hdd

 

[elliot5]

The label probably acts as some sort of filter. Most likely ubisoft unlocked the framerate and then went "voila, enhanced" so it got the sticker and basically banned it from your hdd

Games with the sticker can still run off hdd. It depends on if it's labeled Gen9Aware or straight up Gen9. Aware games are enhanced but don't need the ssd

 

[mhirano]

Makes sense, one of the biggest bottlenecks of Odyssey is asset streaming. The IO is extremely stressed at 60 fps.
Set Icaros flying could burst your external HDD into flames

 

[Umbasaborne]

Games with the sticker can still run off hdd. It depends on if it's labeled Gen9Aware or straight up Gen9. Aware games are enhanced but don't need the ssd

Yeah, for example shadow of the tomb raider is enhanced but still runs off my external hdd

 

[Corgi1985]

Hopefully this saves people from accidentally playing a bad ubisoft game

 

[Forsythia]

It still runs off an external hdd.

 

[M1chl]

The label probably acts as some sort of filter. Most likely ubisoft unlocked the framerate and then went "voila, enhanced" so it got the sticker and basically banned it from your hdd

It's not label, game have to be compiled with GDK and flag set to Gen9 (only). Then you are required to have it on SSD, even if it does not use any of the new APIs.

 

[Umbasaborne]

It still runs off an external hdd.

It didnt force you to transfer it over?

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Nothing wrong with this, if you want the game to perform better whats the problem?

 

[ManaByte]

It didnt force you to transfer it over?

No, mine is running fine on my external.

 

[JimboJones]

Makes sense, one of the biggest bottlenecks of Odyssey is asset streaming. The IO is extremely stressed at 60 fps.
Set Icaros flying could burst your external HDD into flames

At worst you will probably get some asset streaming related framedrops.

Nothing wrong with this, if you want the game to perform better whats the problem?

Because it's probably totally playable from HDD and SSD space is limited

 

[Captain Toad]

I don't understand why you guys need to have a bunch of games installed at once.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Nothing wrong with this, if you want the game to perform better whats the problem?

Its just weird because it was running fine at 4k 60 fps on series x while running off an external hdd just a few days ago. I dont think they enhanced anything else other than unlocking the framerate so i dont get why the ssd is now required. Its frustrating because even with tge expansion card ssd space is very limited. But i have a 5 tb external hdd hooked up to the console that i run all my xbox one/360/og games on

 

[ManaByte]

Because it's probably totally playable from HDD and SSD space is limited

Good thing there's an option to expand your SSD space.

 

[Umbasaborne]

No, mine is running fine on my external.

Thats weird, maybe ill call ms support to find out what happened

 

[Forsythia]

It didnt force you to transfer it over?

Nope

 

[Umbasaborne]

Good thing there's an option to expand your SSD space.

Even then though, its only a terabyte which isnt a ton of space. It doesnt make as a huge a difference as you’d expect tbh

 

[ManaByte]

Even then though, its only a terabyte which isnt a ton of space. It doesnt make as a huge a difference as you’d expect tbh

I haven't had any space issues and I have the expansion card + and 8TB and 5TB connected.

 

[Artistic]

I don't understand why you guys need to have a bunch of games installed at once.

Convenience.

 

[22:22:22]

That's it; I'm going for a PS5

 

[Corgi1985]

I don't understand why you guys need to have a bunch of games installed at once.

Unlike the switch, other systems have more than 2 games worth playing

 

[Banjo64]

I don't understand why you guys need to have a bunch of games installed at once.

Mix of online games and single player? I always have MCC, Sea of Thieves and Rocket League installed on my external SSD and I’ll be adding Infinite and Battelfield 2042 to the internal SSD soon. Forza Horizon is also semi-live service these days so I’ll have that installed for a year or 2 also.

 

[FranXico]

So, they made a native port.

 

[Captain Toad]

Unlike the switch, other systems have more than 2 games worth playing

I'll ignore the console war bait.

But, really, games like AC Odyssey. After you play it and beat it, why do you care if it's installed? How often are you going back to play games like that.

I'll only keep a handful of games permanently installed, such as Rocket Leauge, Tetris Effect, etc. I'll erase single player games even before memory becomes a concern. Redownloading them months or years later if I want to replay them, is not a difficult process.

 

[ManaByte]

After you play it and beat it, why do you care if it's installed?

Well you see AC Odyssey (and Valhalla for that matter) aren't 10 hour cinematic over-the-shoulder games that you finish and never play again. They are, at minimum, 110-120 hour open world action-RPGs and the playtime can get upwards of 200 hours if you want to do every single thing in the game. So they stay installed for quite a while.

 

[RoadHazard]

Makes sense, one of the biggest bottlenecks of Odyssey is asset streaming. The IO is extremely stressed at 60 fps.
Set Icaros flying could burst your external HDD into flames

What does asset streaming have to do with framerate? It's not like you move faster through the world just because the framerate is higher.

 

[mhirano]

What does asset streaming have to do with framerate? It's not like you move faster through the world just because the framerate is higher.

Maybe you are right but in my experience slow IO equals to FPS stutter on PC on asset-streaming-heavy games (AC Odyssey, Cyberpunk 2077).
It shows on fast traversal occasions (driving, horseback riding, Icaros flying).

 

[cormack12]

What does asset streaming have to do with framerate? It's not like you move faster through the world just because the framerate is higher.

I thought it was 60 footsteps per second.

 

[RoadHazard]

Maybe you are right but in my experience slow IO equals to FPS stutter on PC on asset-streaming-heavy games (AC Odyssey, Cyberpunk 2077).
It shows on fast traversal occasions (driving, horseback riding, Icaros flying).

Yeah, maybe such stutters would be more frequent if the frames are shorter.

 

[JimboJones]

Good thing there's an option to expand your SSD space.

Didn't say there wasn't that option but
someone might not want to upgrade with an expensive SSD right now and use a perfectly working HDD.

 

[Spukc]

I am actually surprised why more people are not complaining about the insane tiny storage we get.. and that expanding it is no longer 70 bucks for 4TB .. but more like 600 dollars for 4tb

 

[Banjo64]

I am actually surprised why more people are not complaining about the insane tiny storage we get.. and that expanding it is no longer 70 bucks for 4TB .. but more like 600 dollars for 4tb

Still 50gb ish or less for single player, unbloated games. Even next gen games like Battlefield 2042 are only 60gb. Storage is plenty.

 

[Spukc]

Still 50gb ish or less for single player, unbloated games. Even next gen games like Battlefield 2042 are only 60gb. Storage is plenty.

270GB for next gen cod ..
You better not think 1TB or 680GB is enough this gen

 

[Banjo64]

270GB for next gen cod ..
You better not think 1TB or 680GB is enough this gen

Simple solution, don’t play that trash.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Didn't say there wasn't that option but
someone might not want to upgrade with an expensive SSD right now and use a perfectly working HDD.

Progress, you do have a choice to play the game on a Xbox one or one X.

They are also perfectly working.

 

[Spukc]

Simple solution, don’t play that trash.

Just wait until all AAA games are huge you want better Textures? Next gen shit? Better prep for it

 

[Tommi84]

play the game on a Xbox one or one X.

Mattrick, is that you

 

[Banjo64]

Just wait until all AAA games are huge you want better Textures? Next gen shit? Better prep for it

I don’t think they will all end up huge, absolute worst case scenario in my mind is that they all end up 100-150gb this gen with a few ridiculous outliers like CoD. That would still be 5 games on my PS5 SSD.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Mattrick, is that you

I didnt mention submarines

 

[Kilau]

I haven't had any space issues and I have the expansion card + and 8TB and 5TB connected.

You have 15TB of storage, I’m not surprised you don’t have space issues.

 

[JimboJones]

Progress, you do have a choice to play the game on a Xbox one or one X.

They are also perfectly working.

But there is no "progress" in this particular game, I get that some games will require it but this game works with a HDD, there is no reason to put a SSD requirement on it.
Imagine making Final Fantasy IX or Undertale require an SSD because it was a "native Series app" it would be silly.
These systems should be flexible enough to allow granularity in their requirements.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

But there is no "progress" in this particular game, I get that some games will require it but this game works with a HDD, there is no reason to put a SSD requirement on it.

Does it look and play better than on Xbox one? I'm not a fan of the series so I dont know if they upgraded the FPS or resolution.

 

[01011001]

this has to be a bug. first of all, you can't patch an Xbox One title to be a native Series X|S game, if there is a native version you will be prompted to "upgrade" which means the whole game gets reinstalled as the Gen9 version, and only native games need to be on the SSD. so it's impossible that this even happens... my bet is that Ubisoft somehow fucked up the update and added a flag that tells the console that it needs to be on the SSD even tho it doesn't.

contact ubisoft/make this issue more public, I bet they will patch it so it works again.

 

[RoboFu]

hmm even if there a new version it would never patch up to SERIES version if its installed on external HD.

edit: yeah the guy above explained it better. lol

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Nothing wrong with this, if you want the game to perform better whats the problem?

Why so defensive?

The insecurity of some of you makes you needlessly hostile when its totally not warranted.

The OP never said there's anything inherently wrong with it. He's just questioning why the limitation was imposed when the update seems superficial at best. It's a legit question.

 

[22:22:22]

You have 15TB of storage, I’m not surprised you don’t have space issues.

He's just letting you know.

Don't you have 15TB storage? Smh