Cert.in.Death
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I’m aware of the variability. I simply intended to demonstrate how long it’s going to take to recoup the initial investment even if the subscription service performs incredibly.
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Gamepass hits 25m subs
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Skifi28
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All 20 of them? I don't think they can afford it.
You are forgetting one thing - stock.
If they show healthy and huge increases to Gamepass subscriptions the stock will rise like hell.
There is the real potential.
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Haggard
Banned
the sheer amount of trash is, too.
Chukhopops
Member
It’s even more than that now, 185 80+ games as of December (147 on PC).Eh. More quality than trash.
ZehDon
Gold Member
25 million is a good number - up 7 million in a year, with Halo and Forza pretty much being the only exclusives to launch on it. Can't wait to see what happens when Starfield drops.
With Activision Blizzard games obviously coming to Gamepass - they make sure they mention Gamepass in the purchase press release - I don't foresee a time where I don't have an active subscription.
With Activision Blizzard games obviously coming to Gamepass - they make sure they mention Gamepass in the purchase press release - I don't foresee a time where I don't have an active subscription.
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Stuart360
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Yeah i have talked about this before on here. Haters try to suggest that Gamepass is full of trash but Microsoft are actually quite demanding on the quality of games they bring to Gamepass.Eh. More quality than trash.
Its either well reviewed games in the 75+ range, or lower rated games but games that have large fanbases and communities (like Conan Exiles, DayZ, etc).
You can label trash at Steam with their 'any game goes' attitude (especially with Indies), but not with Gamepass.
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Why are the calculations only including gamepass subs to recoup these investments? Makes no sense. Microsoft games like Sea of Thieves, Forza Horizon, and Halo still sell millions on steam and and their own platforms. We are also excluding microtransactions? Warzone generates 1.8 billion dollars a year and that's a f2p game.
Cert.in.Death
Member
It was purely a mathematical exercise to demonstrate the scope of investment. It was not meant to be comprehensive.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Game Pass in the first 2 years of Series X has been a whole different beast than at any time before. We are in a different phase right now.
Hey thats one benefit of disney+ their physical movies get discounted all the time now. Prior to disney+ their movies used sell for like $30. Now you can get them for like $10 during sales.Around the time Disney stops selling their movies on Blu-Ray and makes them exclusive to Disney+
jigglet
Banned
How can a deal like this close so quickly, surely it's subject to all the regular anti-trust approvals?
That’sa year and a half from now
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
A lot longer than Bethesda. That deal was finalized after only half a year.
jigglet
Banned
But the Tweet I quoted said the deal is closed? Or have I misread what that means?
Fredrik
Member
Yeah I bought zero games on Xbox last year and played about 30. I’m turning 46 soon, been gaming since the early 80s, for me Gamepass is the best thing that has happened in gaming during my lifetime. People are weirdly hung up on owning games but I really don’t understand why. Do people still buy TV show boxes?
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ManaByte
Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Ya it's a weird thing.
Gaming has weird aura that ownership is everything for many people. But then again it cant be that important as the trend is digital and digital copies can get yanked.
But then for everything else like movies, tv, and music, subs plans are a-ok even though everything can still be bought. Even 99 cent songs and $9.99 BR movies are too much. Better to sign up for Spotify or Netflix.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
We?We also announced today that Game Pass now has more than 25 million subscribers.
Welcoming the Incredible Teams and Legendary Franchises of Activision Blizzard to Microsoft Gaming - Xbox Wire
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Back to the other thread now.
Up from 18m in Jan 21 so 7m in a year.
Fredrik
Member
Exactly and with music and movies there is a quality decrease too and it’s still what most people use. The equivalent to Gamepass in the music and movie industry would be downloadable FLAC files and Blu-ray rips.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
May as well have. Not like they share sales numbers anyway, right?
Torrent of Pork
Banned
I've also noticed that nobody seems to be talking about King, I have no doubt they have a higher profit margin than COD. It's the dumb-ass Michael Bay summer blockbuster to finance the niche passion projects that Hollywood used to be creative enough to make.
twilo99
Member
I dunno, people enjoy physical things as well.. which is why vinyl is still a thing
But yes, when it comes to video games I really don't care about owning it and that goes for all forms of entertainment.
BusierDonkey
Member
You either misread or the tweet you read did not convey the scale of this.
This acquisition will take over a year. Right now it's just Microsoft put forward intent to acquire and Activision agreed to terms.
This will require dealing with government officials and legal systems in multiple countries to approve before it's even really a thing and like with Zenimax nobody is really at liberty to discuss the details of anything which you'll hear Phil Spencer repeat a lot in the next year and a half. Activision is a juggernaut of a publisher that has ties to many different economies around the globe and the money that is exchanging hands here is 10 times what anything in the industry has ever been acquired for. This is so much bigger than the Zenimax acquisition it's mind-boggling.
To me the value in ownership only exists when the product has actual value, be it nostalgic or financial. There's still something about grabbing a box off a shelf, taking out a cartridge and slapping it in the old NES. My body produces a happy chemical and I feel all warm and fuzzy. It's like a drug, only I bought this one when I was eight.
My brother still has every Nintendo game he ever bought and has them stored properly. I add any games I own that he doesn't own to his collection any time a new system releases. His collection is worth so much more than what he put into it that it will be a feasible way to offset inflation with no real cost associated. When he gets to a certain point (barring world-scale civil war) he'll be able to sell the collection and make his later years easier (assuming everything isn't on fire). Meanwhile my entire Xbox and Xbox 360 libraries are almost completely worthless, so Gamepass and Steam works out just fine for me going forward.
There's enough information out from sales charts and Steam releases to infer how well their games are doing at retail.
Your response makes no sense in that context. Basically saying retail sales outside Gamepass are irrelevant and unimportant because they haven't shared official sales numbers.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Gamepass is where they are putting their eggs is it not? It's obvious that's where the money and effort is going. You'd be a fool to buy halo retail and not to just have gamepass to be fair.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Rolex Daytonas that are selling for crazy money now we’re sitting in unsold bins in the 1980s because nobody wanted them. Just saying, collecting is always linked to luck.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hopefully they start peppering in some Acti-Blizzard games onto Game Pass soon, instead of waiting for the deal to close for the mother-load.
I would absolutely not mind Diablo 2 next month or so.
I would absolutely not mind Diablo 2 next month or so.
Copy and pasted the line from the article.
Disclaimer, I am a msft stock holder though. Cloud service providers are generally a good bet minus cloudflare this last 3 months.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
25 million subscribers and yet Halo Infinite Campaign was #1 on PC and #1 on Xbox, putting to rest all claims that Game Pass hurts big releases. Game Pass is just another avenue.
Sea of thieves sold 5 million copies on Steam. Forza Horizon 5 has most certainly crossed the million mark on Steam. Halo Infinite’s the second best selling game in December NPD.
There’s a very large portion of the user base that buys retail. And their money and effort is going towards both Gamepass and retail.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Eh. More quality than trash.
If one cannot find games to play for at least one year continuously with Gamepass I question if that person actually likes to play games. There is so much diversity, turnover and A-grade, B-grade and C-grade content to dive into. Absolutely hands down the best value proposition going in gaming today, second to none.
Halo is Back
Member
The green rat hoard grows in strength
Lol, if you liked COD why didn't you actually just play it before? You use to shitmouth COD Nostradamus about how it will flop.Same here, will finally play a COD game since Modern Warfare
On Halo release you were saying how Vanguard is in trouble. This aged like the already out of date milk it was. Battlefield will be alright
ZywyPL
Banned
That's why I believe streaming will easily take over the market, most people simply doesn't care about the quality as much as for the content itself. Many people still watch DVD, SD TV and so on on their 4K TVs, and they couldn't care less as. So a decreased resolution and slight input-lag for couple of bucks per month, most average Joes not only won't mind, they'll love it.
octiny
Banned
Negotiator101
Member
That's what you're looking forward to?
Negotiator101
Member
He's forgetting microtransactions which are the bigger money maker than the subscription itself, I honestly have trouble reading posts that are supposed to be clever and are completely wrong.You are forgetting one thing - stock.
If they show healthy and huge increases to Gamepass subscriptions the stock will rise like hell.
There is the real potential.
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Negotiator101
Member
It takes time, I'd imagine the uptake will be far faster as this generation continues, expecting 35 to 40m by the end of the year.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Hold up.
Since Gamepass has been around, they've currently got 25 million subscribers. What makes you think they'll add another 10-15 million subscribers by December?
Negotiator101
Member
Bethesda releases Starfield, this acquisition I imagine will attract more customers (even though it will take time for the games to appear). Bigger third party games will appear day of release this year as well, the market has far more confidence in Gamepass with this huge move. Everyone now knows Gamepass is here to stay and more and better games make it more desirable than its ever been.
octiny
Banned
Adding 7 million subs in one year is low? They only released 2 major exclusives last year. Imagine once CoD, Starfield & all the other countless games from all their studios start piling in.
I believe they will be closer to 40 million by end of year provided Redfall, Forza, Starfield etc are out by then. Not counting any other surprises they may have in store. It's the domino effect of momentum.
Games.
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