Kagey K
Banned
What games we talking about in here?This guy is so off topic when it comes to games.
What games we talking about in here?This guy is so off topic when it comes to games.
lol gotta love how these fanboys arent even hiding how they can make up conspiracy theories to fuel there agenda.lol gotta love how they arent even hiding how they want a windows like monopoly in the console space.
no thanks.
They literally want a Sony monopoly, and now realize it's never going to happen.lol gotta love how these fanboys arent even hiding how they can make up conspiracy theories to fuel there agenda.
no thanks.
I never implied he was explicitly lying. But he's deceitfully downplaying their position and their acquisition tactics.What part is he lying about?
What is he downplaying?I never implied he was explicitly lying. But he's deceitfully downplaying their position and their acquisition tactics.
Luck for you you can log I where you like, and they will all reward youThat sound kinda ominous...
Not sure if i want a new internet from the guys who can't even fix their damn store on pc...
I'm sorry what?Luck for you you can log I where you like, and they will all reward you
ExactlyI'm sorry what?
Exactly
Damn, love how he just exposed himself with all that metaverse talk of conference rooms with Captain Price avatars nfts and ready player one talk.
Amazing, he’s just another idiot after all.
Well, you're assuming anyone and everyone on gaf has a team in this.What is he downplaying?
Is he wrong they are in 3rd?
I see people say stuff like Sony decimates MS almost daily here.
I'm very confused because somebody has to be lying.
Either Sony isn't decimating MS or MS isn't in 3rd.
It kinda depends. If he's counting Tencent, then yes they might be 3rd. But then you'd also have to count Google and Apple, so who knows what the rank is.Is he wrong they are in 3rd?
It kinda depends. If he's counting Tencent, then yes they might be 3rd. But then you'd also have to count Google and Apple, so who knows what the rank is.
If you only count dedicated gaming, Xbox is 2nd not 3rd.
He told the FT: “To me, just being great at game building gives us the permission to build this next platform, which is essentially the next internet: the embodied presence. Today, I play a game, but I’m not in the game.
An apt representation of Sony and their fans after the last quarter.
Cope however you need to my brother.I honestly don’t think the Activision acquisition will be as devastating for the competition as people may think, at least not until maybe 3 to 5 years generously speaking especially considering what Microsoft spent. Sure, it will give Microsoft a boost, but I don’t think we will see the true perks of this buyout until quite some time, especially if COD remains multiplatform for awhile which is the reason to buy Activision in the first place.
Remember those developers Microsoft purchased back in 2017? I don’t think we have seen one game released from them yet and we’re in 2022, so I’m wondering will this be a similar situation except a few games or COD will possibly be multiplatform? Guess we’ll see.
do they even need to close the gap. They are not part of hardware space anymore. Day1 PC, xcloud.they are going to need this deal to close quickly so they can get more before they close the gap too much.
No, because they didn't purchase any developers in 2017.Remember those developers Microsoft purchased back in 2017?
If we assume that you mean those developers acquired in 2018, Playground has delivered Forza Horizon 4 and 5, Compulsion has delivered We Happy Few, Obsidian has released The Outer Worlds and Grounded, and Inxile has released Wasteland 3.I don’t think we have seen one game released from them yet
This is why its utter useless to compare those. MS generated 1/3rd of Activison purchase a profit this quarter. They can get those cash back again this year.Yep -though market cap is not one of the relevant criteria here, rather the annual profits and cash flow; MS generates almost 8 times as much profit per year as Sony-, which is good for MS and bad for Sony, since the former can sustain losing money for years to establish total domination...
Oh? I see. Don’t know why I assumed the acquisitions were in late 2017, but my mistake if it was 2018. That’s why I said, I don’t think I seen any games released yet because I wasn’t 100% sure. I thought the games you listed were well in development already and I was mostly talking about the newer games like Hellblade 2, Avowed, Elder Scrolls 6, Starfield, that Rare game, etc, but you proved me wrong lol.No, because they didn't purchase any developers in 2017.
If we assume that you mean those developers acquired in 2018, Playground has delivered Forza Horizon 4 and 5, Compulsion has delivered We Happy Few, Obsidian has released The Outer Worlds and Grounded, and Inxile has released Wasteland 3.
At least do your homework before trolling
"Conspiracy theories " They will pushed the market to the subscription Gamepass model, even Sony is obliged to adapt them to such strategy rushly. No way they will have spent 3 billions for a company as Bungie some year ago. MS practically has their hands on the AAA western market thanks to their money, Sony and Nintendo can't do anything to stop them than follow their lead. If it's not monopoly I don't know how call it. You people are blinded to the fanboysm if you don't see such danger, not the others who are worried about such perspective.lol gotta love how these fanboys arent even hiding how they can make up conspiracy theories to fuel there agenda.
no thanks.
"The company I don't like is trying to create a monopoly, I use a laugh emoji for anyone who disagrees"."Conspiracy theories "
humhum...
Listen dude even if it was Nintendo or Sony I wouldn't been happy about it. But you are as many others. You think the problem it's my perspective there?"The company I don't like is trying to create a monopoly, I use a laugh emoji for anyone who disagrees".
He sounds like an evil dr, who is planning to dissect you slowly."Don't worry about it."
You do? All I ever see is the likes of you and co going on about how Sony can't compete with MS and how it's doomed. In fact I hear from the grapevine including papa Phil that smallfry Sony isn't even a competitor because the real imaginary competitors are Google and Amazon.I see people say stuff like Sony decimates MS almost daily here.
He is corporate. He has teams of BR to come up with words like these.I never implied he was explicitly lying. But he's deceitfully downplaying their position and their acquisition tactics.
Me too, but more big western companies/publisher could be tempted to join to the MS party asking billions because seeing the trend they feel more safe under their umbrella than stand-alone and risking more. That's what could be devastating for the AAA market.I honestly don’t think the Activision acquisition will be as devastating for the competition as people may think, at least not until maybe 3 to 5 years generously speaking especially considering what Microsoft spent. Sure, it will give Microsoft a boost, but I don’t think we will see the true perks of this buyout until quite some time, especially if COD remains multiplatform for awhile which is the reason to buy Activision in the first place.
Remember those developers Microsoft purchased back in 2017? I don’t think we have seen one game released from them yet and we’re in 2022, so I’m wondering will this be a similar situation except a few games or COD will possibly be multiplatform? Guess we’ll see.
Papa Phil is right though. Google and Amazon have the means (endless money and their own infrastructure) to build a Gamepass competitor. With Sony it's different. They could build something similar to Gamepass but the monetary feasibility is questionable.You do? All I ever see is the likes of you and co going on about how Sony can't compete with MS and how it's doomed. In fact I hear from the grapevine including papa Phil that smallfry Sony isn't even a competitor because the real imaginary competitors are Google and Amazon.
That is how they look at big puchases. The impact it has on the industry, and the broader industry.My understanding is that the big change in the judgement of anti-trust decisions is that they are now looking more broadly at the cross-business effects, as opposed to just the segment directly impacted by the merger/acquisition. So for instance although Alphabet's core business is Google search and the ad-revenue it generates, they will look at how any major acquisition synergizes with that business in terms of their overall market position and the ability for others to compete against it.
The theory being that by controlling business that feeds into their core enterprise they are creating massive and impregnable walled gardens within the online space.
Watch their profits skyrocket once they start charging real money for gamepass.interesting. MS made more revenue in 2021 then Nintendo. I doubt they made as much profit, but who knows as a quarter of that is likely subscriptions
Is it? Can you name all the Google and Amazon acquisition which put in danger the market? Because I could swear it's all in the MS court until now. You people believe too much to the nice face of Phil, with all respect.Papa Phil is right though. Google and Amazon have the means (endless money and their own infrastructure) to build a Gamepass competitor. With Sony it's different. They could build something similar to Gamepass but the monetary feasibility is questionable.
So why is Nadella trying to suggest they are third now? Is Sony a competitor or not to MS?Papa Phil is right though. Google and Amazon have the means (endless money and their own infrastructure) to build a Gamepass competitor. With Sony it's different. They could build something similar to Gamepass but the monetary feasibility is questionable.
What market is in danger? Are you delusional? "I can't play Diablo IV and Call of Duty 2024 on my PlayStation" does not mean "market is in danger"Is it? Can you name all the Google and Amazon acquisition which put in danger the market?
It's what Good Phil say lol. They make acquisition to save the market to the evil of Google and Amazon adding Nintendo and Sony won't be a menace. Have you paid attention to his word? Or it's you the delusional?What market is in danger? Are you delusional? "I can't play Diablo IV and Call of Duty 2024 on my PlayStation" does not mean "market is in danger"
Gaming market is so fragmented, that there is literally no argument that holds when you try "Microsoft is creating monopoly." Not in console space, and not in gaming space overall.
Because Papa Satya is a different person (and basically a politician).So why is Nadella trying to suggest they are third now? Is Sony a competitor or not to MS?
Yep, that's politics.One day when Phil and co are trying to downplay the competition they aren't a competitor, another day when they are trying to get an acquisition to go through they are.
They tried and failed (Google failed entirely, Amazon is still kinda sorta trying). The fact that they have endless money and their own infrastructure makes them dangerous.If gamepass is some kind of separate competitive market Amazon and Google are not even in the running and MS has a monopoly already then.
It's what Good Phil say lol. They make acquisition to save the market to the evil of Google and Amazon adding Nintendo and Sony won't be a menace. Have you paid attention to his word? Or it's you the delusional?
Microsoft to FTC: If we won't buy Activision Blizzard, Tencent will
FTC: Okay...approved. Better you than those Chinese schmucks
BR buzz words. He is sly corporate. It gives him advantages to buy another big publisher.So why is Nadella trying to suggest they are third now? Is Sony a competitor or not to MS?
There was never a competition at all. You saw them spend $68.7b on cash. How is that a competition?One day when Phil and co are trying to downplay the competition they aren't a competitor, another day when they are trying to get an acquisition to go through they are.
That service is like early netflix, and psnow exist.If gamepass is some kind of separate competitive market Amazon and Google are not even in the running and MS has a monopoly already then.
You've missed the guys point. He's saying Amazon and Google are not a danger to the industry at all or even a competitor.What market is in danger? Are you delusional? "I can't play Diablo IV and Call of Duty 2024 on my PlayStation" does not mean "market is in danger"
Gaming market is so fragmented, that there is literally no argument that holds when you try "Microsoft is creating monopoly." Not in console space, and not in gaming space overall. And that stuff is not based on your platform preference but in numbers. Microsoft is second in console space after Sony. And after acquisition it will be third in gaming space overall.
I have a different opinion. It's Phil who is whispering sweet nothings into your ear like a politician not Satya. Amazon and Google are not a threat, they are struggling to compete in the market. Sony is MS' competitor in the gaming space and Phil and his fans usually speak nonsense about this topic.Because Papa Satya is a different person (and basically a politician).
Yep, that's politics.
They tried and failed (Google failed entirely, Amazon is still kinda sorta trying). The fact that they have endless money and their own infrastructure makes them dangerous.
What? You can watch revenue numbers of PlayStation, Nintendo, Xbox and Activision Blizzard to see what the reality of market is.It's what Good Phil say lol. They make acquisition to save the market to the evil of Google and Amazon adding Nintendo and Sony won't be a menace. Have you paid attention to his word? Or it's you the delusional?