Utherellus
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GT7 footage was captured on PS5. It's has pretty high end, modern GPU.
Motorsport 7 system requirements were GTX 1080 for Ultra 4K. PS5 eats that card for breakfast.
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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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GT7 footage was captured on PS5. It's has pretty high end, modern GPU.
Motorsport 7 system requirements were GTX 1080 for Ultra 4K. PS5 eats that card for breakfast.
SLB1904
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You feel the physics not watching on videos.
Turn 10 Turned the cars in to bricks to solve the raming online. That tells you about collision in that game
Is not even close and tbf forza 7 is old game. Of course gt7 will better features
rodrigolfp
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Then the bricks of GT are heavier based on the video...
You feel the physics not watching on videos.
Turn 10 Turned the cars in to bricks to solve the raming online. That tells you about collision in that game
Is not even close and tbf forza 7 is old game. Of course gt7 will better features
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SLB1904
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Based on the video... lol
You don't get it do you?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Utherellus
Member
Are you sure about that?
People constantly forget that Motorsport took pretty hardcore route by being available and exclusively developed for next-gen consoles, which will allow a generational leap in physics, aerodynamics and environmental factor complexity.
What's GT7 physics refresh rate? Quantity of tire grip refresh points? How far has Polyphony actually pushed physics in GT7 while being crushed by PS4's jaguar cpu bottleneck?
Bernd Lauert
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rodrigolfp
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Ever saw a car doing a frontal collision?
SLB1904
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Do you even know what any of that means?Are you sure about that?
People constantly forget that Motorsport took pretty hardcore route by being available and exclusively developed for next-gen consoles, which will allow a generational leap in physics, aerodynamics and environmental factor complexity.
What's GT7 physics refresh rate? Quantity of tire grip refresh points? How far has Polyphony actually pushed physics in GT7 while being crushed by PS4's jaguar cpu bottleneck?
SLB1904
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Dude. You talking about irrelevant stuff.
Physics is about the the tyre grip, weight shift and race collision not bang in to a wall.
Utherellus
Member
Do you tho?
Take your time and do quick research, than come back and reveal Gran Turismo 7 technical details regarding physics.
SLB1904
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Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
The problem with FM7 was its lighting, trees and some of its shaders, on most of the tracks they where pretty average. The Dubai track had incredible lighting and details and there you can see FM7 shining at its fullest. It still has one of the best car models in game and the track side details are still one of the best. If the reveal trailer was really real time and game assets than im expecting the next FM to destroy any racing sim in track details.
Utherellus
Member
I asked first tho
I want you to tell me the exact specifications of physics engine in GT7, the heart of sim experience. Still waiting.
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rodrigolfp
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Tire physics in GT games always were some of the worst of all "sims".
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SLB1904
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Oh boy.I asked first tho
I want you to tell me the exact specifications of physics engine in GT7, the heart of sim experience. Still waiting.
Where do I start:
Tyre wear/multiple tyres choices (affects performance)
Fuel saving
Wind affecting performance (drag)
Weight shifting
Split stream
Aquaplaning
Can't be bother, let's move on and post nice pics
SLB1904
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And do you know that how?
rodrigolfp
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Inside Sim Racing, GTPlanet and some pro drivers reviews.
rodrigolfp
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Do you think tire physics is just that? What about things like:
- Elastic behavior changes with speed, temperature, and pressure
- Rolling resistance changes with speed, temperature and pressure
- Sidewall buckling at low pressure
- Bias Ply, Radial, or Hybrid construction
- Gyroscopic Effects
- Dynamic response such as vibration, telescoping, and twisting
PHYSICS - Introducing the 5 point tyre model for ACC!
In modern computing, collision detection is still one of the most resource consuming operations a physics engine has to do. It needs to be very fast,...
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Utherellus
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1.
I asked about actual facts about physics refresh rate and tire collision point quantity, in correlation with cross-gen/next-gen discussion of how exactly the scope of GT7 was stagnated due to outdated hardware.
Not keywords you heard in interviews.
2. And who said FM7 is not featuring most of them and FM8 is not featuring all of them?
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SLB1904
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Because a I know. Who knows what fm8 will be? It's a reboot of the franchise1.
I asked about actual facts about physics refresh rate and tire collision point quantity, in correlation with cross-gen/next-gen discussion of how exactly the scope of GT7 was stagnated due to outdated hardware.
Not keywords you heard in interviews.
2. And who said FM7 is not featuring most of them and FM8 is not featuring all of them?
bushwookie
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It's funny because you state it as fact.
Most racing games easily pull off the smoke and mirrors trick that convinces me I'm navigating a car around a track or road. GT is the only one that fails to do this, and still feels and handles like the car is a static object at the center of the screen with the track moving underneath it.
Only the long time GT faithful hold onto the long lost idea that GT still innovates and leads the pack when it comes to racing games. Forza surpassed it long ago, and several others have done so as well.
Just enjoy the games you prefer. Nobody wears the crown forever.
SLB1904
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How did we went from forza 7 a game designed to be played on a controller to the best gt3 som race. Literally the best sim out there?Do you think tire physics is just that? What about things like:
- Elastic behavior changes with speed, temperature, and pressure
- Rolling resistance changes with speed, temperature and pressure
- Sidewall buckling at low pressure
- Bias Ply, Radial, or Hybrid construction
- Gyroscopic Effects
- Dynamic response such as vibration, telescoping, and twisting
PHYSICS - Introducing the 5 point tyre model for ACC!
In modern computing, collision detection is still one of the most resource consuming operations a physics engine has to do. It needs to be very fast,...
Are you serious lol
I play this shit everyday
rodrigolfp
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Then you should know how much GT physics suck.
LostDonkey
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I've been saying this for ages. Forza (Motorsport) is definitely more Visceral, where as GT sport felt a little lifeless.
GT7 has definitely changed handling for the better imo.
SLB1904
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That's the neat part, it doesn't
SLB1904
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That's where gt shines, the lighting in different conditions.Guys back to topic please.
Some more GT7 gameplay shots
ethomaz
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rodrigolfp
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This model doesn't look bad, except the Mercedes simbol.Guys back to topic please.
Some more GT7 gameplay shots
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ethomaz
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I think because it is direct reflecting sun light.
rodrigolfp
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Maybe. but I was thinking it's the LoD striking again...
ethomaz
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That is how LOD words? For the logo only? I believe it changes the whole car LOD.
rodrigolfp
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LoD changes are not for logo only, but the logo there is the more visible low poly part I see.
ethomaz
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LOD levels is for the car model as a whole I believe.
It is the same quality for that Logo and the rest of the car.
What I see in the log is the effect (maybe wrong) of the reflection of the sun light and a blur probably due the AA.
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nemiroff
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That looks like a knee jerk reaction from someone who didn't watch the video. Surprisingly enough it sure looks like they both trade blows at each other.
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SLB1904
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Bruh
bushwookie
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Are really going to make excuses, clarify, and defend any and every post critical of GT7?
SLB1904
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That's the only thing that user does.
He hasn't contribute in nothing in this thread but using spyglass in every gt7 shot.
Obviously over the symbol was overlooked because the amg and c 63 doesn't suffer the some problem or the corvette above it.
LostDonkey
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I've been coming to this thread for years and I've never once seen him saying anything positive about any other game.
It's GT or bust.
ethomaz
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Look at the pic dude.
Or will you create the LOD only in the logo excuse?
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rodrigolfp
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ethomaz
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Yeap PD created a LOD just for the Logo.I think is the LoD.
C’mon guys.
ethomaz
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You are welcome.
I really come here to call out the bullshit about GT games.
The amount of create issues for GT games and comparisons with bullshot from PC is unbelievable.
And some guys believes the guys posting pictures are being honest lol
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rodrigolfp
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The only difference you see is only the logo there? Rly? Look the interiors, the "C63S"..
rodrigolfp
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Tag checks out.
SLB1904
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just go in ignore as well. and lets move on
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
FM7 is one of few games I have pinned to taskbar. Yes, presentation (menus, UX/UI) is miserable. But once you in the race it's such an amazing racing experience.