Wrong iD Software programmer. I’m referring to Billy Khan.
Easy mistake, since more than one of them expressed their dissatisfaction with the Series S.
It's the same guy, sadly he has deleted all of his tweets about the series s it seems
Wrong iD Software programmer. I’m referring to Billy Khan.
Easy mistake, since more than one of them expressed their dissatisfaction with the Series S.
Nope you’re thinking of Axel Gneiting. Different dev.It's the same guy, sadly he has deleted all of his tweets about the series s it seems
It was Billy Khan I was thinking of but could be wrong. Pretty sure I haven't seen Axel's twitter page before.Nope you’re thinking of Axel Gneiting. Different dev.
They of course deleted their tweets after Microsoft purchased Zenimax.
We knew that (from dev insiders) since like 3 years ago. memory constraints was always the biggest problem that could never being solved. They are so willingly daft and blinded.Interesting.
They say multiple devs have told them that the Series S is a bit of a pain.
Memory constraints.
Axel was the one hoping for much higher amounts of RAM. Not Billy Khan.It was Billy Khan I was thinking of but could be wrong. Pretty sure I haven't seen Axel's twitter page before.
Fundamentally software devs always want more power.
Found the screenshot of Axel's tweet, you are correct on axel wanting more ram. Fundamentally attribution of the quote doesn't really change much in my opinion.Axel was the one hoping for much higher amounts of RAM. Not Billy Khan.
Billy Khan simply expressed concerns about the RAM capacity and split bandwidth.
Hey man you probably know more than they do anyways.Found the screenshot of Axel's tweet, you are correct on axel wanting more ram. Fundamentally attribution of the quote doesn't really change much in my opinion.
Found the screenshot of Axel's tweet, you are correct on axel wanting more ram. Fundamentally attribution of the quote doesn't really change much in my opinion.
Again you missed the point, I didn't say that I know more than them (where did I say that?).Hey man you probably know more than they do anyways.
There is a major difference between a PS5 game being tied to the PS4 and XSX game and the XSS version.Well there's something to celebrate for a console that will be around another decade.
Yup. They 'believed in generations' and made fun of platforms that claimed to be cross gen from the start. Still waiting to get that listing of titles the XSS version has negatively impacted other platforms.PS4 to PS5 is a generational and architectural level difference.
Series S to Series X is the same generation and infrastructure with just a difference in specs.
You're comparing apples to chimpanzees here.
Also, PlayStation fans are equally, maybe more, opposed to cross gen games on GAF. I shouldn't have to point out individual user names.
Yup, the PS4 version still runs at 1080p.There is a major difference between a PS5 game being tied to the PS4 and XSX game and the XSS version.
And has a significantly worse CPU and GPU.Yup, the PS4 version still runs at 1080p.
That's even more incredible.And has a significantly worse CPU and GPU.
And has a significantly worse CPU and GPU.
He is making a joke. But he also has a point tho.He doesn't mention that Series S has multiple games above 1080p at twice the framerate all the way up to 4k.
It sums up the concern trolling, yeah. Series S absolutely crushes the last gen base consoles.The fact that we are comparing a last gen console to a current gen console at all pretty much sums it up.
The VCR Xbox One, sure, but One X has outperformed more than a few times.It sums up the concern trolling, yeah. Series S absolutely crushes the last gen base consoles.
The fact that we are comparing a last gen console to a current gen console at all pretty much sums it up.
DF and the game developers are the ones concerned. I didn't start this thread. They're just confirming what most of us have been saying since the Series S and its specs were revealed.*Makes first post in topic bringing in last gen console comparison*
"The fact that 'we' are comparing a last gen console... "
Peak concern ™ on display here .
My friend, please.
*Makes first post in topic bringing in last gen console comparison*
"The fact that 'we' are comparing a last gen console... "
Peak concern ™ on display here .
My friend, please.
DF and the game developers are the ones concerned. I didn't start this thread. They're just confirming what most of us have been saying since it the Series S and its specs were revealed.
Yeah and people compare the Switch to the 360. Because that's where it lands hardware wise, regardless of when it released or what numbered generation it calls itself.Series S's specs are relative to the current generation. DF/Alex didn't make any comparison with last gen in the video.
That's purely something cooked up in the extent of this topic, for the discussion at hand.
Yeah and people compare the Switch to the 360. Because that's where it lands hardware wise, regardless of when it released or what numbered generation it calls itself.
Damn read that as Tiny4k
Could you list the games that were held back by Series S memory constraints during development? You must have several examples in mind
People compared the Switch to the XSS too. Bottom line is there is no evidence the XSS is holding back the XSX or any other platforms. Comparing the PS4 and PS5 to the XSX and XSS is an apples to chimps comparison.Yeah and people compare the Switch to the 360. Because that's where it lands hardware wise, regardless of when it released or what numbered generation it calls itself.
The best part with the XSS concern squad is how their battle is already lost. There is clearly a market for a cheaper, less powerful model when you see the XSS going 50/50 with the XSX even in markets like Germany or France and completely dominating in other countries like the UK (judging from Amazon). Remember when the argument was that no one would ever want it?It sums up the concern trolling, yeah. Series S absolutely crushes the last gen base consoles.
I care because I firmly believe a high tide lifts all boats. The S muddies the entire generation. That’s all there is to it.Why do you all even care? How does this affect you? It's clear that the S was a super smart business move and has not negatively impacted anyone who does not want to own one.
I care because I firmly believe a high tide lifts all boats. The S muddies the entire generation. That’s all there is to it.
I think folks are forgetting that the Steam Deck is the weakest denominator that's supposed to have the widest support for modern developed games.
If devs can optimize for that, Series S will be a cinch, and it's not like we haven't seen games cut RT from the Series S version if needed.
Are you seriously suggesting the steam dock is the target platform for this gen? It’s a pc with users dialing in their settings like any other pc. Your mental gymnastics are like watching cirque du soleilYour boat is firmly pointed in the wrong direction if you think Series S is what will muddy the waters.
By your own logic, isn't the Series S just a PC with dialed in settings too? I mean, all consoles are just PCs now.Are you seriously suggesting the steam dock is the target platform for this gen? It’s a pc with users dialing in their settings like any other pc. Your mental gymnastics are like watching cirque du soleil
No series S is a fixed generation defining platform. Aka a console. It’s like we’ve never seen a console before.By your own logic, isn't the Series S just a PC with dialed in settings too? I mean, all consoles are just PCs now.
Are you seriously suggesting the steam dock is the target platform for this gen? It’s a pc with users dialing in their settings like any other pc. Your mental gymnastics are like watching cirque du soleil
No PC developer has to take the Steam Deck into account at any point during the development of their game. There is no mandate that states if you develop a game for the PC platform then you have to make sure the steam deck can run said game.
But then, you already knew that. Stop being disingenuous.
Yeah. By coming out and saying the series s will play every game that comes out on x that’s what they did. They now have to spend the entire gen tied to that or discontinue and face backlash. They are already not able to deliver features they said would be present from the x version but I doubt they’d flat out stop supporting the system.No PC developer has to take the Steam Deck into account at any point during the development of their game. There is no mandate that states if you develop a game for the PC platform then you have to make sure the steam deck can run said game.
But then, you already knew that. Stop being disingenuous.
All games on XSS hit the PC day one. It's a dialed in PC with dev kit that has settings for PC, XSS and XSX. Again there is no evidence the XSS has negatively affected other platforms.No series S is a fixed generation defining platform. Aka a console. It’s like we’ve never seen a console before.
There is no logic in your suggestion.
Plenty of logic. Just like PCs, consoles are now highly scalable. I don't see the difference.No series S is a fixed generation defining platform. Aka a console. It’s like we’ve never seen a console before.
There is no logic in your suggestion.
All games on XSS hit the PC day one. It's a dialed in PC with dev kit that has settings for PC, XSS and XSX. Again there is no evidence the XSS has negatively affected other platforms.
Plenty of logic. Just like PCs, consoles are now highly scalable. I don't see the difference.
Plenty of logic. Just like PCs, consoles are now highly scalable. I don't see the difference.
All games on XSS hit the PC day one. It's a dialed in PC with dev kit that has settings for PC, XSS and XSX. Again there is no evidence the XSS has negatively affected other platforms.
So the Switch muddied The Witcher 3 and Doom 2016, especially the pc version, right?I care because I firmly believe a high tide lifts all boats. The S muddies the entire generation. That’s all there is to it.
If Sony were to do it, I’d be even more critical. Luckily they looked beyond cashing in and did it right with the single baseline.
Developers do see the difference.Plenty of logic. Just like PCs, consoles are now highly scalable. I don't see the difference.
Jason Ronald, of all people, actually said Series S was designed to deliver the exact same experience just at a lower resolution.There's no mandate that Series S must meet a threshold or match every visual feature from SX
Guess it's easier to blame the developers rather than the hardware.
No, the switch isn’t a target for next gen large format display gamesSo the Switch muddied The Witcher 3 and Doom 2016, especially the pc version, right?
Neither is the XSS if devs just choose to make "Switch versions" for it.No, the switch isn’t a target for next gen large format display games