BlackTron
Member
I wonder why Bungie wanted to go in the first place...
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343i are introducing a digital currency to the Master Chief Collection
I wonder why Bungie wanted to go in the first place...
Complistic
Member
Imagine mismanaging your biggest IP like this. It's so weird that the games are as good as they are now but everything surrounding them seems like a troll.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
akaFullmetal
Member
Adding mtx at this point is dumb. I just don't get what Microsoft is doing at this point with halo.
nemiroff
Gold Member
These are the things you are able to do (and without receiving a knee-jerk backlash) if you are a great developer (I guess also the publisher have an impact here) who give people quality and value beyond all expectations. 343 is not a stellar developer, and they are consistently delivering below expectations. Someone in the system obviously lacks an antenna or two here.
(Disclaimer: I like MS and I like Xbox and MCC is quite good now, so I'm not an usual suspect hater)
(Disclaimer: I like MS and I like Xbox and MCC is quite good now, so I'm not an usual suspect hater)
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Swift_Star
Banned
Naked Lunch
Member
You have to play the game constantly to finish all the challenges every single week.
You also have to play specifically what the challenge says - not just play whatever you want.
Like I said - I have hundreds of hours on MCC and still have only a fraction of the stuff unlocked. Of the 12 hardcore Halo fans I have, no one is anywhere close to having everything.
Is it possible? Sure. Practical - nah.
Helghan
Member
The new content is.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
For the love of God. STOP.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Accurate depiction of you guys trying to construct a gotcha moment when there isn't one.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Fuz
Banned
This is a joke, right?
I don't understand anymore when you guys are serious or sarcastic.
Swift_Star
Banned
Oh, but there is. It's clear to everyone you have double standards when it comes to MS.
It's not unexpected though.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Can't be a double standard when the situations aren't comparable. You need to try harder if you want to point out some kind of hypocrisy.
Banjo64
cumsessed
So any new content in a game should be chargeable in your opinion?
Swift_Star
Banned
They are. None are necessary for playing/finishing/enjoying the games and both are grinding time sink situations.
You lost at your own game.
Belthazar
Member
This is spot-on, it's kinda shameless but also very enlightening to the state of the Infinite player base
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Cars are kinda necessary in a car game. And didn't they at one point make the grind more grindy to entice more sales? Now feel free to point out where Halo is doing the same.They are. None are necessary for playing/finishing/enjoying the games and both are grinding time sink situations.
You lost at your own game.
Klayzer
Member
Perfectly clear. Anyways, back on topic. What the fuck 343? I swear, they are actively trying to turn fans against them.
Swift_Star
Banned
You get cars without needing to grind. You can play and finish the game without spending any money.
The point here is that you are saying MTX are not bad when they're not required to play or finish the game which is true to both games but you were hasty to bitch about GT7 (on a console you don't have and a game you don't play) and now are making excuses for MS (which I don't have a problem with btw, just fun to see you spinning)...
So, take the L or spin more, your choice, either way, the truth is out.
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01011001
Banned
They are. None are necessary for playing/finishing/enjoying the games and both are grinding time sink situations.
You lost at your own game.
you can not compare GT7 to this. anyone who does is either fucking dense beyond belief of intellectually dishonest due to brand affiliation, there's no other option here.
one game was designed with MTX in mind and even increased the prices of the cars dramatically not only compared to its predecessor but also after the game launched.
and the other game had 8 completely free battle passes and didn't change its progression model since then and also won't chnage its progression model after this implementation, meaning we know for sure the way they designed the unlocks and progression was not done with extracting money in mind
don't ever make me defend 343i ever again! nothing hurts me more
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
We have some real winners on here showing their derpy arses.
Klayzer
Member
Stop giving him attention. Everyone knows he's a anti-Sony troll, including the mods. Just let him self own, like you know he's going to.
Deerock71
Member
This ^ shot in particular always looked so forced and artificial to me.
01011001
Banned
they already did tbh. from a game dominating the charts to a game that lost 90+ percent of its playerbase in less than half a year
People don't buy games as much these days, they join gamepass. Person who joins is very likely to check out Halo. A heavily marketed MS franchise.
MS: "how can we make money out of these people?". The answer: this.
It's not Halo being mismanaged, there is no big franchise that MS owns that doesn't have mtxs right now. This is just a game from a time before the business model shift setting itself up for todays model.
"Maybe reviewers should go back and re-review the game" /s
Klayzer
Member
Intresting point. Hard to disagree with your opinion, when there's mounting evidence of mtx shenanigans in their games. Still, I'm going to wait until some of their big upcoming single player games, become available before, I give a definitive opinion on their strategy. Fable, Starfield, etc.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bernd Lauert
Banned
The difference here is that the Halo MTX are not only "not required", they're not even part of the core game. You don't, for example, have to grind hours for a gun so that you can use it. You're not enticed to pay up to skip the grind if you want to use a certain gun or gadget or whatever. It's purely cosmetic. GT7 MTX isn't.
Better luck next time.
Swift_Star
Banned
II_JumPeR_I
Member
Uhm the currency is already there but they fucked up how you get points.
Instead of fixing that they are thinking about adding a buyable option which is disgusting and the issue here
Instead of fixing that they are thinking about adding a buyable option which is disgusting and the issue here
SteelCurtain 59
Member
I really don't understand why this is viewed as some terrible situation or something. There's tons of content in the game that would take super long to unlock if you started today, 100% of it cosmetic. The game has existed without microtransactions for 8 years now. Unless they start gating off things behind a paywall or increasing the grind to unlock those items I don't see how making it optional to buy those things is some terrible thing. Also it's laughable the people in here comparing it to GT and then calling them an Xbox fanboy. Whether or not they're a fanboy, it's just as much a fanboy statement to try and compare this to GT7. One game was designed with microtransactions in mind, the other is adding them 8 years after release, and by all accounts don't seem to be changing anything with regards to progression. I dislike 343 as much as the next guy but trying to use this as some "Halo is ruined" moment is just proof that you thought that was true prior to this announcement
I would usually be against this but to me this says that maybe they see an actual incentive to continue working on MCC? if microtransitions could give us mod support and several other features in return then I'm all for it. I still believe that MCC with the proper dev support could be a more succesful game than Infinite.
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Remember when MS said GP users were more than likely to purchase MTX on those games...
Oh please tell me about those great multiplayer games without MTX.
Krappadizzle
Member
MCC already has excellent mod support with literally hundreds, if not thousands of mods already available. To say this gives support maybe for consoles would just be them keeping it artificially locked behind a paywall.
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nominedomine
Banned
Wasn't it release like 8 years ago? What are they trying to make happen here?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Please Understand™
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
They were adding new content(not patches and updates, new content) right upto a few months before Infinite release. They did say that they may still update it in future.
So you act like this is a major disaster from the point of view of current gaming in general(I think it is when compared with what Halo was) but you can't provide examples about what you are comparing it with? Sure there must be great multiplayer games not in game pass that don't have MTX, right?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Stop projecting your emotionally damaged insecurities about your constant fellating of MS. All I did was give the reason as to why. If the revenue is up as they say on MTX for GP, then that is why they're adding it.
This is as much a NBD as it was for GT7, only different, is people showing their hyocuntical asses.
Go stand in the corner, ya dunce.
Swift_Star
Banned
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
I didn't even say GT7, why are you so insecure already? You are the one bringing GT7 into a Halo thread.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Nothing says Infinite isn't doing the numbers like going back and throwing digital currencies and microtransactions in the one people play.