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Not exactly a contra revenue blowout pricepoint where they out-AMD AMD, but it seems to bring that 3060TI performance to the 3060 price point, though on the eve of new cards. Jen-Hsun seemed to indicate prices would be going up for their next gen though which may be its breathing room.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

"Let´s have some CoMpEtiTiOn"

 

[winjer]

329$ for 3060Ti performance....
Intel is betting on AMD and NVidia not lowering price/performance for the next generation of GPUs.
This is really bad news for gamers. As the 3 companies might be trying to scalp consumers as much as they can.
But then again, why buy an Intel GPU, if we can get the same, but with better drivers and support from NVidia and even AMD.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Great price. I’m rooting for Intel here.

 

[Warnen]

Anything to compete with nvidia at this point. Xx60ti ish power is more then enough for most people.

 

[mrBarrelNut]

Anything to compete with nvidia at this point. Xx60ti ish power is more then enough for most people.

Yes indeed. As long as game developers start supporting that XeSS AI upscaling like they support DLSS.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Nice looking card, hopefully they can compete with at least the 4070. If so, I'll hop on the intel train.

 

[SantaC]

Still DOA

 

[LordOfChaos]

329$ for 3060Ti performance....
Intel is betting on AMD and NVidia not lowering price/performance for the next generation of GPUs.
This is really bad news for gamers. As the 3 companies might be trying to scalp consumers as much as they can.
But then again, why buy an Intel GPU, if we can get the same, but with better drivers and support from NVidia and even AMD.

Well, it does sound like Nvidia is going the other way with Jen's comments on GPU pricing lowering over time being a thing of the past

But then they might be competing with a dumping of 3060TI's and 3070s if it's only in that generation of features with nothing special over them

 

[jaysius]

Yes indeed. As long as game developers start supporting that XeSS AI upscaling like they support DLSS.

How much input delay is XeSS vs DLSS?

 

[kadab]

 

[kiphalfton]

So much for "competition" resulting in cheaper graphics cards. Intel and AMD are getting as close to Nvidia pricing, without getting too close to hurt their sales. Guess it makes sense, but still sucks.

 

[GymWolf]

Ok, now put out something comparable to a 4080\4090 please.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Do we know any specs?

 

[Magic Carpet]

My GTX 1080 is 4% better than a GTX 3060
The Arc A770 is 14% better than a GTX 3060

GPU has really languished this past decade.

 

[jaysius]

I'm in the market for a mediocre card, been eyeing the xt6600 and xt 6650, but the prices in Canada are still stupid high for what those cards are, hopefully this Intel card will be cheap.

 

[Walter Matthau]

Do we know any specs?

Intel Arc A770 Specs

Intel DG2-512, 2400 MHz, 4096 Cores, 256 TMUs, 128 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR6, 2000 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Griffon]

 

[ReBurn]

This will be the worst Intel GPU ever. I'm rooting for the B series, though.

 

[I Master l]

The Arc A770 is 14% better than a GTX 3060

GPU has really languished this past decade.

This is with ray tracing

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Ok, now put out something comparable to a 4080\4090 please.

No

 

[M1chl]

Still more advanced than Radeon. AMD should probably aim below this price.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Terrible font, terrible shoes on presenter, terrible temperature the ac was set to during presentation (I can tell by the video).

 

[SmokedMeat]

Ok, now put out something comparable to a 4080\4090 please.

Screw that. Enough with these $1500 GPUs that the majority of the gaming population doesn’t buy.

The mid tier matters more.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Screw that. Enough with these $1500 GPUs that the majority of the gaming population doesn’t buy.

The mid tier matters more.

I'd love for someone to just knock the 1650 off the rooster as the best we can do in SFF bus powered....It's been years. There's one Nvidia pro tier card but with pro tier pricing.

 

[mrMUR_96]

The market really needs some competition, so I hope this turns out good. Gonna be stuck with ridiculous prices otherwise.

 

[Crayon]

Okay they are actually coming out. Shit, I really hope they can afford to ride this out until the next generation.

 

[PaintTinJr]

329$ for 3060Ti performance....
Intel is betting on AMD and NVidia not lowering price/performance for the next generation of GPUs.
This is really bad news for gamers. As the 3 companies might be trying to scalp consumers as much as they can.
But then again, why buy an Intel GPU, if we can get the same, but with better drivers and support from NVidia and even AMD.

I'm guessing they are matching AMD for power use - running costs are a big issue IMO, now, Nvidia for features and driver support (long term support will be top tier given it is Intel and they are part of the WinTel lock so will probably get given lower level access than AMD or Nvidia, and probably already part of Windows 12's approved hardware with shipped drivers with the OS ), and lastly, this might end up as a collector's item, if they bow out quickly, which I highly doubt.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

My GTX 1080 is 4% better than a GTX 3060
The Arc A770 is 14% better than a GTX 3060

GPU has really languished this past decade.

Wasn't it 14% better in ray tracing benches? Thought in raster it beat a 3060 Ti.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Wasn't it 14% better in ray tracing benches? Thought in raster it beat a 3060 Ti.

Honestly don't know. I only saw the tiny 14 percent jump in performance from a GTX 1080 A card that I bought in 2016, over 6 years ago. 6 years and I have zero incentive other than 'raytracing' to get a new card.

 

[kiphalfton]

My GTX 1080 is 4% better than a GTX 3060
The Arc A770 is 14% better than a GTX 3060

GPU has really languished this past decade.

You don't know WTF you're talking about. No way a GTX 1080 is better than a RTX 3060.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Watch Intel quickly surpass AMD.

 

[Black_Stride]

329 for ~3060Ti levels of performance.


Thats a very decent price.
Especially with Nvidia currently saying fuck everything under 1000 dollars and keeping Ampere up, Intel might might might might might have a chance.
I doubt they make a massive dent, but atleast they can be proud and start focusing on the B series GPUs.

Wishful thinking (for Intel) bring out the B series GPUs with RTX3080ti levels of performance before Nvidia brings out the RTX4060 and youve got yourself a deal(not from me but im sure someone would want that kinda performance for the price).

 

[Magic Carpet]

You don't know WTF you're talking about. No way a GTX 1080 is better than a RTX 3060.

Did I get it backwards and it's the 3060 thats 4% better than the 1080?
Ive got a 1080 at home and a 3060 at work. And they bench almost the same around 4% from each other.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Who is the brave enough here to buy one and keeps on expecting crashes ?

 

[Walter Matthau]

I'm guessing they are matching AMD for power use - running costs are a big issue IMO, now, Nvidia for features and driver support (long term support will be top tier given it is Intel and they are part of the WinTel lock so will probably get given lower level access than AMD or Nvidia, and probably already part of Windows 12's approved hardware with shipped drivers with the OS ), and lastly, this might end up as a collector's item, if they bow out quickly, which I highly doubt.

I don't get why everyone overlooks power consumption and efficiency.

 

[lmimmfn]

So 700euro then? Hmm, nah, not interested

 

[SantaC]

Still more advanced than Radeon. AMD should probably aim below this price.

You are kidding right. The 6950 holds its own against 3090

 

[Buggy Loop]

Watch Intel quickly surpass AMD.

I would say by 3rd iteration they’ll be dangerous

 

[alucard0712_rus]

Wow. That's a very good price actually!

 

[THE DUCK]

Does this card have any advantages in terms of video editing or ai work vs nvidia or amd?

 

[ShadowLag]

Intel Arc A770 Specs

Intel DG2-512, 2400 MHz, 4096 Cores, 256 TMUs, 128 ROPs, 16384 MB GDDR6, 2000 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

According to that link, the Arc A770 stacks up to my Sapphire Nitro+ RX 5700 XT (which is still a beast in non-RT stuff) in the following ways:

Consumes 55% less power;
Has 2x the memory;
Is 8% faster;
Supports HW ray tracing (the 5700 XT doesn't);
Costs 27% less than what I paid for my 5700 XT in 2019 (before the crypto madness, before the chip shortage)

Considering my 5700 XT still easily gets 100+ fps at 1440p with high/ultra settings on a lot of modern games, I'd say that's a pretty good deal.

 

[hinch7]

These class cards and performance should be closer to $250 in 2022, but we're still feeling the effect of Crypto, plus inflation.

Not bad though and Intel can't be making a lot off these cards. Personally I'd still avoid due to driver woes.

 

[OZ9000]

Is this Intel's top end card?

Very disappointing to match a mid-range card which was released more than a year ago.

This thing is DOA. Although I must say XeSS looks promising. Impressive uplift in Tomb Raider.

 

[octiny]

My GTX 1080 is 4% better than a GTX 3060
The Arc A770 is 14% better than a GTX 3060

GPU has really languished this past decade.

A GTX 1080 is not faster than a 3060, it loses by a considerable margin. On average it's around 20% slower, sometimes higher.

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Unless you mean the 1080 Ti, which is around 5% faster than a 3060.

 

[GloveSlap]

I hope they get their stuff together, but the drivers featured on Gamers Nexus were beyond bad.

 

[64bitmodels]

finally, they're coming out
too bad it costs as much for the A770 as it does for a 3060ti, i figured theyd undercut nvidia on that one

 

[Magic Carpet]

A GTX 1080 is not faster than a 3060, it loses by a considerable margin. On average it's around 20% slower, sometimes higher.

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Unless you mean the 1080 Ti, which is around 5% faster than a 3060.

I just texted my son who corrected me that it is indeed a 1080ti.
Thanks for correcting me. I thought maybe something was off. Its my memory.

 

[PaintTinJr]

I don't get why everyone overlooks power consumption and efficiency.

And where Intel is concerned, they have real influence over Microsoft, so even if they messed up, they could probably still have Microsoft alter Windows' APIs to ensure they covered any mistakes or shortfall in the the hardware Intel produced.

I'm not happy that it is this way but buying Intel's best hardware offerings is typically a safe bet IMO, and you might get below best level performance, or paid too much, but reliable performance over the duration, and at a good power envelop - that is acceptable - are usually par for the course IMO, so much so that buying high-end Intel hardware blind isn't that risky, knowing their reputation commits them to make things work.

It is a shame the card isn't going to be under $250/£200 to be great value, but it looks like a pretty solid approach IMO, and will hopefully reframe things giving AMD an incentive to price lower and be part of the Intel conversation, and then encourage Nvidia to think differently on power consumption and product tiers/pricing.

 

[Sophist]

what about the extra stuff? rtx, video encoding, scaling, monitor synchronizing...