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Rumor: Mid-Gen Upgrades for PS5 and Xbox Series X devkits have been received by most AAA studios, according to GTA Forum insider
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DaGwaphics
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This is the crux of the issue. These walled gardens are super profitable and something that all these console makers obviously care deeply about. If PC starts to consistently out perform the base consoles (which of course it should), even a modest number of users moving in that direction (15-20%) stings. If the mid-gen systems aren't very popular overall, they fulfill the purpose of trying to keep users within the walled garden.
MarkMe2525
Member
Easy, Xbox Series XXTrying to think what they will name the mid-gen Xbox Series X
Edit: I see i was beaten to it.
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BlackTron
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Trying to think what they will name the mid-gen Xbox Series X
Xbox Series Sex
Stuart360
Member
Xbox Series EX.
Bartski
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MarkMe2525
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Xbox Series DX
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Josemayuste
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Yes please give me these games in higher settings and higher locked frames and just take my money on a mid gen refreshExcuse me, sir:
There are many more examples and on other platforms aswell.
Wont happen, NDA
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Stuart360
Member
Phil confirmed like a year ago that they have 'more consoles in development'.
Mid gen machines will happen.
rofif
Banned
if you need higher res or framerate to enjoy returnal or demons souls, you should quit gaming probably
GHG
Gold Member
Some of them will still be 30fps on the pro consoles.
mortal
Gold Member
That is such a vague statement, he could've been alluding to a slim version for all we know.
So I will wait for this rumor to be corroborated or confirmed.
01011001
Banned
why would Microsoft need a mid gen refresh for VR? makes absolutely no sense
Topher
Gold Member
This is just absurd though. Gen just started, games are not pushing the hardware, we still have cross gen.........ah hell, who am I kidding?
mortal
Gold Member
Of course no one would actually openly confirm this due to NDA. Nothing has stopped game developers leaking things before.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You’re still playing cross Gen games after two years. No way are “Pro” systems being given to developers already.
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Fbh
Member
I'll believe it when I see it.
Don't really see the point right now to be honest when most stuff is still cross gen, the current consoles are still hard to get in many places and the world is going through an economic crisis where a lot of people will have to deal with tighter budgets. Working on some sort of slim console that's easier to make and maybe a bit cheaper makes more sense to me than some $800 pro model. But who knows.
Either way, after like 20 "we are totally getting the Switch pro" rumors which ended up being nothing (or just a minor upgrade) I find it hard to trust this sort of report.
Don't really see the point right now to be honest when most stuff is still cross gen, the current consoles are still hard to get in many places and the world is going through an economic crisis where a lot of people will have to deal with tighter budgets. Working on some sort of slim console that's easier to make and maybe a bit cheaper makes more sense to me than some $800 pro model. But who knows.
Either way, after like 20 "we are totally getting the Switch pro" rumors which ended up being nothing (or just a minor upgrade) I find it hard to trust this sort of report.
Topher
Gold Member
But that's what this supposedly is.
DaGwaphics
Member
mortal
Gold Member
Maybe I've read it wrong, but I don't see anything indicating this person is a developer at R*.
This is still just a rumor, so I would wait for corroboration.
Frank Horrigan
Banned
Aww wads up? Still salty that I wasn't hacked for refusing 2fa but OW2 servers were?
if youre so sure ill be gone, match my bet.
good man
Because the series S is a wank console for VR and the series X, while powerful and capable of VR, doesn't have the brute force to match High end PC offerings.
Topher
.Trust me
Topher
Gold Member
01011001
Banned
they could just, like... not support the Series S if it was really too weak (which it most likely absolutely isn't btw.)
Ezekiel_
Banned
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Same hereThis is just absurd though. Gen just started, games are not pushing the hardware, we still have cross gen.........ah hell, who am I kidding?
People saying we don't need one must have missed Gothem Knights being locked at 30fps which I am afraid will be the norm when devs start trying to push these consoles for next gen games only
Frank Horrigan
Banned
Topher
Before I joined gaf I posted on other gaming websites. I was 1 year ahead of the news of an amazon like firestick (still coming, it isn't cancelled) and 6 months ahead of the purchase of Acti.
If you want the far out scoop, Disney are going to enter the gaming industry with a digital storefront like steam. They will offer games through Disney+, in the same way Netflix are exploring offering games (potentially partnering with Sony). Potentially, Disney+ is a trojan horse to get Sony exclusive games on Xbox, but that's a wildly unverified rumour and possible fanfic
Ultra Donny
Member
So I brought a series x on release day, have not seen a game I could not play on my one x yet, I mean, the load times is nice and all but the games, though good is underwhelming.
sncvsrtoip
Member
Good news and 0 surprise here
Frank Horrigan
Banned
It is too weak. Ps4 wasn't powerful enough for vr, even with the breakout box and the pro version. While the series S is more powerful than a ps4pro, obviously, it doesn't have the grunt to match high end PC headsets.
Xbox series VR or whatever it will be called, will be the best place to play VR games. And I for one would love to see Halo VR.
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Instead of doing a mid gen refresh they should just abandon the abysmal and pointless Series S. What a stupid idea.
rofif
Banned
Stupid idea. You don't just swap the cpu.They really should just make the APU upgradable so we can avoid buying a whole new console. Make the APU user friendly to change out like the old Pentium II processors where it was like a cartridge.
Itt's not a pc thank god
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
1. CG gif and it is literally running ps3 code under the hoodExcuse me, sir:
There are many more examples and on other platforms aswell.
2. Literally running on steam deck
3. Only true next Gen game out there
4. PS4 game
So 1 game. You got him!!!
DaGwaphics
Member
Seems like the XSS should be able to support VR, at least to the level of the self-contained headsets. If MS goes into VR, you'd think they would support all of the consoles and maybe just allow games to be added to the "VR" store that don't support the S. A decent little library of titles could probably be released on XSS for VR, especially if it can still hold up against the Quest 3 gpu wise.
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Of course it is too weak. They can support the PS4 too. You just get middling results, as we've seen all fucking gen.
Series S is going to hold Xbox games back. All gen long.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
as if it isn't already? look at cyberpunk's time from announcement to releaseConsoles can't iterate as fast as smartphones as AAA game production would take longer than the span of an entire generation
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Jesus what are they going to call the Xbox Series X refresh? Series XX?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Meh. They are both limiting themselves to ps4 hardware so not buying any series s trash talk from these hacks, sorry.Developers from Rocksteady and Naughty Dog would like to remind you about the Sbox
A potato that will hamstring the entire gen lol
Zuzu
Member
Excellent, can't wait. By 2024 I think a lot of console games will start having frame rates tumble back down to 30fps so we'll need these. I don't understand why people would be against this (unless it has a negative effect on the availability of stock of the standard consoles). If you don't want one don't buy one. But for those of us who want better performance then we get the option.
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Frank Horrigan
Banned
They'd have to make different versions of headsets to match the S. The S is going to be a hybrid streaming console. the Xbox One will eventually be a streaming only (current gen) console, once the kinks are figured out.
Microsoft can make their own hardware or partner with someone else. I know people will dismiss this next comment as fanboyism or wrong but the series x is not set up to be optimal for VR, unlike the PS5 which had VR in mind. If Microsoft partner with a 3rd party (meta for example) they'll need to rejigger the internals so it can better compete with PSVR2 and PC headsets. Remember, Microsoft have gamepass on PC and are trying to attract both crowds.
If we consider the difference between the xbox one and the xbox one x, it shouldn't come as a surprise that Microsoft will redesign their console internals to better compete (for those unaware, the x1x is a 'next gen' console under the hood and completely different from the og x1 architecture.)
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Ps5 next year. Ms the year after. Just like with pro and x1x.
It will let these greedy execs finally make profit on hardware. I expect $599 minimum. As well as improving the stock shortage. Even if they only produce 20% of these pro consoles on the new smaller nodes, that’s 20% extra on the shelves. They used market will also be flooded by people trading in their original ps5s.
jhjfss
Member
I wonder how the naughty dog employee squares his tweet with this?Developers from Rocksteady and Naughty Dog would like to remind you about the Sbox
A potato that will hamstring the entire gen lol
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ManaByte
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