Kenneth Haight
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Condescending much?First-party published, mate, not too hard to understand. Even so, those are vastly different than third-party paid exclusives.
Condescending much?First-party published, mate, not too hard to understand. Even so, those are vastly different than third-party paid exclusives.
Elden Ring Sales Off to Incredible Start
Elden Ring, the popular FromSoftware title, is witnessing an explosive start and is breaking multiple records in a short span of time.gamerant.com
Looking at those stats (assuming they could make it console exclusive but still let them release on PC), Surely Kadokawa would still want a chunk (they own 70% of Fromsoftware so I assume they have the final say) of money to make up for those lost Xbox sales.
That split was for the uk i think.
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The FromSoftware game sold best on PC, representing 44% of total sales. Then it's PS5 with 27%, then Xbox (16%) and finally PS4 (13%).
It was comfortably Europe's biggest game of February, and was No.1 in
Xbox split in Europe is only 16%, while PS is 40% and PC 44%. (this splits are the total for Europe including the UK).
And in Japan and Asia, the Xbox splits are negligible.
Like I said, From Software will do just fine skipping the Xbox platform. Now, PC is different story.
Hmm that’s an interesting thought. I wonder how this thread would sound if it asked:If it was Xbox exclusive because Microsoft provided marketing or technical support or paid for the exclusivity, that's fine.
Its weird that some say Fromsoftware would be dooming themesleves leaving money on the table with ps and pc but is that not the same situation for elder scrolls a game that is considerably a way bigger multiplatform franchise?
Versus a totally new IP from Miyazaki ?
It's clear from From's recent history that they like to alternate money-makers and more experimental passion projects. That fits well with Sony funding exclusives, since niche halo products are ideal as third party exclusives.
Elden Ring 2 will be multiplatform, the next Bloodborne or Sekiro "Souls gaiden" style game may well not be.
Bethesda is absolutely leaving money on the table by not releasing games for PlayStation, but that's a sacrifice Microsoft is willing to make. Sony doesn't own Fromsoft outright, so they can't compel them to do things that don't make business sense. What they can do is offer to fund projects that other publishers wouldn't be willing to fund under favorable terms.
As long as they’re on PC I don’t care what the consoles do to each other.
I wouldn't like it, i dont like exclusivity in games anyway so why would this being an exclusive excite me? if anything the current situation with Bloodborne is a clear proof that this is not a good thing to begin with.
Also from business standpoint it makes no sense, they made a lot of profit and clearly they have big fanbase all over Xbox/PC so why not capitalize on it? its not like their quality will suffer, Sekiro and Elden Ring were top notch.
Well if there is, its gonna be either a new ip or possibly even bloodborne II. So I'm fine with it. Elden Ring II and bloodborne II. Sounds good doesnt it! That way fromsoft can keep their old formula along with fully open world.
A Bluepoint or The Coalition collaboration for graphics tech only would be nice, but without that I don’t see any upside. I hope they got a big enough taste of the multiplat money to realize it’s better for everyone to release games on all platforms going forward.I'd love that, just as much as hearing they're making an XsX exclusive. After ER they should have enough dosh to grow a full-time 2 team.
One is likely almost done with ER DLC right now, while the other is finishing multiplatform Armored Core.
A Bluepoint or The Coalition collaboration for graphics tech only would be nice, but without that I don’t see any upside. I hope they got a big enough taste of the multiplat money to realize it’s better for everyone to release games on all platforms going forward.
Plus, Sony have Bluepoint now anyway, I’d like to see them show what they can do fully unleashed, let them create and direct their own Bloodborne 2 and Demon’s Souls 2, both are Sony’s IPs.
I'll never understand people hoping for less people to have access to a game. I want From's next game to be released on Xbox/Playstation/PC because they're good games and the more people who play good games the better
Sure but like I said then I don’t see any upside to it, just means I’ll be stuck playing their badly optimized console version for no reason, and they’ll sell less games so I’m not sure what’s in it for FROM either. A better strategy is to collaborate with Bluepoint for graphics tech, then it could be great.Bluepoint can do their own game and Fromsoft can still make a playstation game, its not really one or the other.
I'd just love to see them doing anything different.I wouldn't make any sense as they are third party. Look at Elden Ring sales, try reaching such success with only one machine. Good luck.
I would really like to see them coming back at something like Sekiro, with no inventory / no stats. It was their best game, in my opinion.
How can you really change the mechanics though? It's really hard to reinvent the wheel for combat systems.I'd just love to see them doing anything different.
Even if it's more medieval dark fantasy. Just change the mechanics enough so I feel like I'm playing something new.
Either make it even more action focused like Dragon's Dogma, with it's special attacks and soft lock-on which is great for fighting groups of enemies...How can you really change the mechanics though? It's really hard to reinvent the wheel for combat systems.
I'll never understand people hoping for less people to have access to a game. I want From's next game to be released on Xbox/Playstation/PC because they're good games and the more people who play good games the better
Fair enough. I never played Dragon's Dogma so I can't speak for that. With the sequel announced though, I'll prolly do a play through and see what it's all about.Either make it even more action focused like Dragon's Dogma, with it's special attacks and soft lock-on which is great for fighting groups of enemies...
Or make it something more involved, like For Honor or Mount & Blade, which systems are great for 1vs1 combat.
Also, no more rolling like a maniac, which will make positioning yourself and being able to defend/parry attacks something more important.
There's really no need to reinvent the wheel. Their games are great in many aspects, it's just that I'd like something maybe not new, but a bit fresh for it's combat. If Elden Ring 2's combat is basically the same then I'd probably be just a bit disappointed, even if I'm 100% sure I'd still enjoy that game.
It may not be for everyone... for me, it's the best 7/10 I'll ever play. Hope you like it! There's a ton of things to love in that game if it manages to click with you.Fair enough. I never played Dragon's Dogma so I can't speak for that. With the sequel announced though, I'll prolly do a play through and see what it's all about.
Yeah agree. I think slight changes on the formula like those Bloodborne introduced would be enough for me.As for no rolling, that would be very weird for a souls game. I find it very hard to imagine a souls game without rolling. It's a signature at this point. It's like playing God of War without pulling enemies in with the Blades of Chaos in my opinion.
I think Bloodborne had a good combat system with its own twist that was fun and engaging and fitting to the lore. Same for Sekiro. Elden Ring is really just Dark Souls IV in disguise. Even Miyazaki confirmed that the combat system in Elden Ring is an evolution of Dark Souls 3 combat.
Elden Ring 2 is technically going to be Dark Souls V. Both franchises are medieval and very similar to each other. One is open world the other is not. As for combat in that game... well I would just assume it's going to be an evolution of the Elder Rings combat.
Biggest difference for me between Elden Ring and Dark Souls combat was the ability to do jump heavy attacks and how the staggering worked. Really made a lot of bosses trivial.
That split was for the uk i think.
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The FromSoftware game sold best on PC, representing 44% of total sales. Then it's PS5 with 27%, then Xbox (16%) and finally PS4 (13%).
It was comfortably Europe's biggest game of February, and was No.1 in
Xbox split in Europe is only 16%, while PS is 40% and PC 44%. (this splits are the total for Europe including the UK).
And in Japan and Asia, the Xbox splits are negligible.
Like I said, From Software will do just fine skipping the Xbox platform. Now, PC is different story.
Console warriorz <-- they NEED exclusives, it's like ammo in their holster. The less people that have access the better. A 3rd party game as an exclusive is like a WMD for that crowd.I'll never understand people hoping for less people to have access to a game. I want From's next game to be released on Xbox/Playstation/PC because they're good games and the more people who play good games the better
It's also a validation thing. They are so insecure in their decision making that they need to be validated by fake video game pixels that their purchase was worth it and that they are smarter than anyone else on the planet for choosing the product they chose to buy.Console warriorz <-- they NEED exclusives, it's like ammo in their holster. The less people that have access the better. A 3rd part game as an exclusive is like a WMD for that crowd.
You think a company can just wipe out 16% of their sales like it's no big deal?
I want their games to come out on Xbox too going forward, so I'd be annoyed. That said, From games are system sellers for me so I'd get a PS5 just for that. Bloodborne was the reason I bought a PS4.