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HBO Original | The Last of Us | Part 1 OT | Endure & Survive

But Netflix has some fantastic shows.

Stranger Things
Ozark
Narcos
Monster: The Jeffery Dahmer Story
All of Us Are Dead
Mindhunters
Dark
House of Cards
The Crown
Kingdom
Cobra Kai
Castlevania
Edgerunners
the list goes on and on...

Like... Netflix is fucking good.

Not to mention how you can’t even deeply get invested in netflix shows without worrying about cancellation or them taking 2 years to do another season. there’s so many shows on netflix right now that aren’t even cancelled but don’t have confirmed upcoming seasons.

Only thing you know aint getting cancelled on netflix is Stranger Things and Cobra Kai
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Not to mention how you can’t even deeply get invested in netflix shows without worrying about cancellation or them taking 2 years to do another season. there’s so many shows on netflix right now that aren’t even cancelled but don’t have confirmed upcoming seasons.

Only thing you know aint getting cancelled on netflix is Stranger Things and Cobra Kai
Exactly this. There were a lot of shows that sunk their hooks into me, only to never see any resolution due to cancelations. Most of them being SciFi.
 

Bartski

Gold Member


It got me wanting to buy the Part 1 remake.
 
well if u believe that. Then u have to believe this game would've been forgotten or at best just something on a "hidden gem" list, if this game had been an Xbox exclusive. I don't think its as good as ppl like to claim it is. State of Decay came out the same week. And it held my attention way more. I always felt like it got the triple threat bump of PS exclusive CHECK/Naughty Dog game CHECK/Really pretty graphics CHECK. You make this an Xbox game with okay graphics from rando dev team.....and it wouldn't have gotten any 10's. But nobody wants to have that conversation

So what you're saying is, if it was a worse game people wouldn't think it was as good.

Well, duh.
 

FUBARx89

Member
Watched first ep, really not into Bella Ramsey as Ellie, there's something really off about her. Hopefully she will grow on me.

Didn't expect Pedro to be as good as he was though.
 

Marchizmo

Member
well if u believe that. Then u have to believe this game would've been forgotten or at best just something on a "hidden gem" list, if this game had been an Xbox exclusive. I don't think its as good as ppl like to claim it is. State of Decay came out the same week. And it held my attention way more. I always felt like it got the triple threat bump of PS exclusive CHECK/Naughty Dog game CHECK/Really pretty graphics CHECK. You make this an Xbox game with okay graphics from rando dev team.....and it wouldn't have gotten any 10's. But nobody wants to have that conversation
this dudes comparing the last of us to state of decay lmao
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I really like the guy who plays Tommy. That scene where Joel and Tommy are pick up Sarah then shit hits the fan was fucking tense.
He played Ghost Rider in Agents of Shield & he was the Terminator in Dark Fate
 

ShadowNate

Member
Ghost Rider season of AoS was pretty alright and the actor did a very good job in it. Actually most of the Agents of Shield stories since the... twist of season one were fun. I don't think I've watched the last season or two though.

Terminator movie was crap. Nothing could salvage it and Gabriel Luna was not exactly memorable in it either.
 
Isn't sarah supposed to be 11? Did they change her age? cause the actress clearly looks much older/almost adult; I get it it, child actors suck, but it is a bit weird.
 
He was really good as Robbie Reyez. Hope if they do more Ghost Rider in MCU he can make another appearance, he might be aged out the role by then though


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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
From 1 to 10 how woke is this so far for the people who watched the first episode?
Black Sarah
Mexican Tommy
Hispanic Joel
Ugly Ellie*
Disfigured Tess

But they are all mostly decent in the roles. Ellie's actress doesnt look ugly tbh. She looks fine. A bit plain but Ellie is supposed to be plain. I am more pissed about disfiguring Tess. The actress gives the best performance in the episode but she supports a giant bruise on her face that is very distracting. Classic case of Neil going out of his way to make female leads ugly. It's funny that her new model in the remake was criticized for looking trailer trash but she looks far better compared to the tv show version.

Other than that, there is really no woke stuff. The actors despite being miscast all give a decent performance especially Sarah who I thought was better than Ellie. Tommy doesnt have much to do but Pedro Pascal is fine. Not my Joel, but good mainstream Joel the audience can immediately connect with. They are trying to humanize him here which is odd but not exactly woke.

if you can get over the casting decisions, there is really nothing woke here. Just a warning. Bill from Boston now has a boyfriend who is still alive unlike the game so thats probably episode 3. But just having a gay character doesnt make something woke imo.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
The pilot was quite boring, I really don't like long episodes unless they're absolutely filled with content that justifies the length. The entire sequence involving the escape with Sarah felt much weaker than in the game and I don't think that knowing what would happen was the only reason. The pilot should've also included 'alive' infected from the present to make it a better incentive to keep watching beyond the first episode.

I will not change my mind about Bella being an awful choice to play Ellie. I also don't like how they uglified Tess, just like in the recent remake. Anna Torv is only 43 and still attractive irl, here they made her a bruised 50+ year old woman. The only good pick from the main cast is Pedro.
 
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I am more pissed about disfiguring Tess. The actress gives the best performance in the episode but she supports a giant bruise on her face that is very distracting. Classic case of Neil going out of his way to make female leads ugly.

Anna Torv is only 43 and still attractive irl, here they made her a bruised 50+ year old woman

Lmao what universe do some of you live in? Honestly…
 
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Represent.

Represent(ative) of bad opinions
The pilot was quite boring, I really don't like long episodes unless they're absolutely filled with content that justifies the length. The entire sequence involving the escape with Sarah felt much weaker than in the game and I don't think that knowing what would happen was the only reason. The pilot should've also included 'alive' infected from the present to make it a better incentive to keep watching beyond the first episode.

I will not change my mind about Bella being an awful choice to play Ellie. I also don't like how they uglified Tess, just like in the recent remake. Anna Torv is only 43 and still attractive irl, here they made her a bruised 50+ year old woman. The only good pick from the main cast is Pedro.
You think people, specifically women, would age like fine wine living in a post-apocalyptic world like this? She is a hardened no-bullshit smuggler who is 20 deep into a brutal as fuck world. You exect her to look like Jennifer Aniston or some shit? Running around with nice hair and make up?

There is no electricity, no hot showers, no make up, no hair salons, no nail salons, no plastic surgery, nothing at all in this world. what do you expect her to look like?
 
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Bullets-hurt

Neo Member
It was great, a very enjoyable pilot. I do agree the very last reveal was incredibly rushed though considering its importance, the reaction made almost no sense and it's extra strange as the game handles it so much better. Almost as if they ran out of time or something...

Either way, can't wait for episode 2.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
You think people, specifically women, would age like fine wine living in a post-apocalyptic world like this? She is a hardened no-bullshit smuggler who is 20 deep into a brutal as fuck world. You exect her to look like Jennifer Aniston or some shit? Running around with nice hair and make up?

There is no electricity, no hot showers, no make up, no hair salons, no nail salons, no plastic surgery, nothing at all in this world. what do you expect her to look like?
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Another great irony is all the complaining you all did when the remake came out, now you want her to look more like the remake 😂
thats how low the standards have fallen.

but thats what they wanted all along.

Love how none of the men look disfigured or broken down. Pedro looks pretty much the same. Just with grey hair. The checkpoint guard looks like he just took a warm shower. But hey, lets disfigure the only attractive actress we've hired.

It's a running theme for ND who have no qualms about making their male characters look like models, but women must either look fugly or disfigured or both.

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Does anyone feel disappointed that we can't see Marlene vs Robert. . And the infected on the wall is unnecessary.
Feel like they cut a lots of details in that part.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
thats how low the standards have fallen.

but thats what they wanted all along.

Love how none of the men look disfigured or broken down. Pedro looks pretty much the same. Just with grey hair. The checkpoint guard looks like he just took a warm shower. But hey, lets disfigure the only attractive actress we've hired.

It's a running theme for ND who have no qualms about making their male characters look like models, but women must either look fugly or disfigured or both.

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That's because the studio is trending to the opposite of what game studios have historically been.

Gaming studios evolved being almost all guys with masculine attitudes. Put in strong meathead or dorky dude who gets the girl like it's Revenge of the Nerds. But the women are almost always hot, good looking, princessy or outright sleazy (like the classic D&D sorcerer or amazon with boobs hanging out). ND is trending the opposite. Without even knowing who works there I bet you got lots of women working there who now instill the exact same mentality as guys did for decades. But now it's the chiseled good looking guy surrounded by meh looking women.

In life, attitudes dont really change much between men and women. They can have the exact same needs and wants and attitudes. The whole stereotype that men are sexist slobs who dont give a shit about their kids, while women are better people who value sense of humour and if a guy is good with kids is total BS. But what gets pushed through media is whomever works there controlling the content what gets sold to the public.
 

Dr.Morris79

Gold Member
Yeah that was good, that bit with the old granny behined Sarah was trippy as shit.. shite like that does me in!

Reminded me of the scene from The Grudge with the kid :messenger_neutral:
 
Does anyone feel disappointed that we can't see Marlene vs Robert. . And the infected on the wall is unnecessary.
Feel like they cut a lots of details in that part.
I was disappointed with how they handled Robert. It kinda fucks with Tess's character development too.

I think they wanted to give audiences a glimpse at what the infection actually does to the human body after a long period of time.
 
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Sybrix

Member
God damn that was good.

Wasn’t expecting it to be that good, really hope the quality continues.

Can’t wait for the next episode.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
That's because the studio is trending to the opposite of what game studios have historically been.

Gaming studios evolved being almost all guys with masculine attitudes. Put in strong meathead or dorky dude who gets the girl like it's Revenge of the Nerds. But the women are almost always hot, good looking, princessy or outright sleazy (like the classic D&D sorcerer or amazon with boobs hanging out). ND is trending the opposite. Without even knowing who works there I bet you got lots of women working there who now instill the exact same mentality as guys did for decades. But now it's the chiseled good looking guy surrounded by meh looking women.

In life, attitudes dont really change much between men and women. They can have the exact same needs and wants and attitudes. The whole stereotype that men are sexist slobs who dont give a shit about their kids, while women are better people who value sense of humour and if a guy is good with kids is total BS. But what gets pushed through media is whomever works there controlling the content what gets sold to the public.
Thats definitely a possibility and a pretty good theory. Never thought about it like that because one of the lead artists over at ND was a rather attractive looking girl who on a panel revealed that Drake picture i posted above and specifically said how the protagonist HAS to look attractive. Things have definitely changed since. Chloe was downgraded. People here excused it by saying well she's half indian now which i thought was pretty racist as if indians cant be attractive. They hired that hot chick from Battlestar gallactica to be the face model for Nadine and then took away all her good looking features especially in Lost legacy. At least she had a nice afro going on in U4. In Lost Legacy, she looks like a man.

I always figured it was just a bunch of women hating zoomer incels doing their best to make these women ugly but your theory makes more sense.
 
Yeah that was good, that bit with the old granny behined Sarah was trippy as shit.. shite like that does me in!

Reminded me of the scene from The Grudge with the kid :messenger_neutral:
Yeah that got me too. Something about Joel yelling at that woman to get back in the house and lock her doors sounded so fucking real to me and that just made shit so tense. Tommy not hesitating to run the infected neighbors over. That whole scene leading up to the airplane crash was pure panic.
 

DonJorginho

Banned
God some of these comments... You clearly came into the show hoping for it to be some "woke" shitshow and are now rooting on the floor trying to find any old shit you can to justify your narrow minded shit-takes.

The only thing more cringe than woke media are those who point to anything and everything they dislike as "woke"
 

SLB1904

Banned
Does anyone feel disappointed that we can't see Marlene vs Robert. . And the infected on the wall is unnecessary.
Feel like they cut a lots of details in that part.
That all part plays out differently. Joel motivations is completely different from the game

God some of these comments... You clearly came into the show hoping for it to be some "woke" shitshow and are now rooting on the floor trying to find any old shit you can to justify your narrow minded shit-takes.

The only thing more cringe than woke media are those who point to anything and everything they dislike as "woke"
Hands down.
I feelings exactly. The left and right are the most annoying people in the world. I wish they could just fuck off
 
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thats how low the standards have fallen.

but thats what they wanted all along.

Love how none of the men look disfigured or broken down. Pedro looks pretty much the same. Just with grey hair. The checkpoint guard looks like he just took a warm shower. But hey, lets disfigure the only attractive actress we've hired.

It's a running theme for ND who have no qualms about making their male characters look like models, but women must either look fugly or disfigured or both.

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I mean Chloe Frazer is objectively hot so thats already a bad example
 
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