Purchasing on steam makes it open, not the login.
Don't know why you are bringing the login.
The login has everything to do with it. Just so that you can enlighten yourself, go and purchase Flight Simulator on Steam and see what happens. You can't even download the game unless you login to (or create) an Xbox account, nevermind actually play it.
You might be able to purchase their games on Steam in order to make use of the better features available via the steam ecosystm but it's pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
This is due to the forced 3rd party (xbox) account link. Should we end up with another GFWL situation then all of their games people have purchased via Steam become inoperable.
You can play xcloud anywhere. Currently xcloud doesn't purchased games, so this point is meaningless.
Would it not be better for consumers to have the option of playing their purchased games via xcloud or any other cloud service? Why are you advocating for cloud customers people being locked into a particular subscription service without any other option?
Play anywhere includes both their store.
Play anywhere is only available via
their store. You can't purchase their games on Steam and "play anywhere" even despite being forced to log in to their crap.
Let's not try straw argument here. They are pretty much open with how you want to play their games. They aren't restricting you on certain platforms.
You can play Xbox games on windows store, Xbox console, steam and xcloud. That is pretty much open platform.
You just described the definition of a closed platform, congratulations. Just because said closed platform gives you options, it doesn't make it open.
If people want to say "cloud is the future" then it's a pretty dark one if people are not even given the autonomy to decide where they are allowed to play their purchased games. If you live in an area where (as an example) GFN servers are available (because there are some areas that GFN support that Xcloud doesn't and vice versa) or in closer proximity and would give you a better playing experience then why should you be forced to use xcloud to play games you've
purchased? If Xbox want to say they are letting people choose how they play their games then actually give them choice.
To demonstrate what I mean, if I want to purchase and play assassins creed valhalla, I have a choice of store on which I can purchase it on (steam, Ubisoft connect, epic), and then I have a choice how I want to play it (native vs cloud). If I decide cloud then I can decide whether I want to play via Ubisoft's cloud service (via luna), geforce now or any other cloud gaming service that supports purchased games.
Now if you compare that to what xbox does. Choice of purchase - xbox store or steam only. Cloud gaming provider - xcloud only.
"Choice" my arse.
How am I a sheep? You've seen me post my gaming history, over 4 decades of it mate. I'm not an xBot so you don't get to name call me a sheep. I trash Halo because it's been shit for a decade or more. I praise Sea of Thieves or Ori or Grounded or GP etc. I love Ninty first party, so happy to see them doing great. I really don't like Sony last generation or this generation. I have no interest in their games or hardware or VR. I foolishly upgraded my PC years ago thinking Star Citizen would launch soon enough, I'll upgrade to play SC if it ever gets across the finish line. I've owned Playstations 1 and 2, really fell off in the PS3 era for me though.
I game on phones, Xbox, PC, Nintendo, mini-SNES/NES, I have 2 arcade cabinets at home. I've coded games myself on and off over my life for fun projects. I own CAD/MAX/Unreal just to learn it on a student or free licence etc. Hardly a sheep mate.
At any rate you're trying to rebut with some utopian end product perfect model for Xbox and completely ignoring the shite state of Sony or Ninty or Apple by direct comparison. Xbox is the only player even remotely close or heading in the right direction to that lofty goal of yours. They're working on it, I doubt any industry player gets there 100% but I'd take MS/Xbox pushing for years now down that road over say Sony or Ninty or Apple's walled gardens and hardware. In terms of progress to your stated rebuttal open goal all players with the exception of Xbox are flatly stagnant with zero interest in opening the gaming segments up to each other. Perhaps your nVidia statement flies in the face of that but MS/Xbox are hardly the only ones to withdraw from what nVidia tried to execute on all the other publishers/devs/platforms etc.
Your name calling doesn't absolve that you think MS is closed, even if I concede that argument it just makes Sony/Ninty/Apple that much worse by your own argument. Will you soon rage quit too?
I didn't ask for your life story, nor do I care. You've bought their PR, you've drunk the coolaid and you're exactly the type of customer they want and need. It is not possible to play any of their games without creating and signing into an Xbox account. That is a fact.
If you want to tell me I say "moo" then you unequivocally say "baaaa".
feynoob
dont bother the people you are arguing with are too stubborn to see something without tinted glasses.
For the love of God please get your graphics card fixed or buy a new one. With each passing day you become more bitter and insular.
Did MS punch you when you were a kid at highschool?
Yes. Next question please.