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[shaddam]

Why is he a celebrity? I often saw his clips on twitter, cool clips but usually the same edit.

 

[Fake]

Are we gonna use metacritic user score now?

neoGAF need to explain why sometimes user score matters and why sometimes don't.

Because if you look in the same way, people give zero to Bayoneta 3 for the same silly reason (because Bayonetta is supposed to be a Qeer?)

Pick up your side already.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

see if this was a Japanese game Aloy would be having sex with the robots instead.

Her falling in love with a robot would be an interesting story in a world where AI has and continues to try erasing human live on the planet.

 

[Banjo64]

Maybe she bats for both teams?

Like, any of it really matters.

A threesome would have been an acceptable ending.

 

[Black_Stride]

Ruined a great character?





Clearly these people never actually played the games.


P.S Isnt her progenitor lesbian as well?

 

[adamsapple]

"fans"

User reviews continue to be the shittiest metric to gauge anything.

 

[Unknown?]

So in a post apocalyptic world she chooses to be with someone she can't procreate with?

It's her choice but not one of the wisest. She needs to create offspring with the highly skilled genes as her to continue her mission of survival.

 

[madanth]

One day we will get to the point where race and sexual disposition are about as important as hair color.

One day we will get to the point where race and sexual disposition are about as important as hair color. Clearly not there yet.

UNFORTUNATELY, NOT IN OUR LIFETIME.

 

[Three]

ThreadTitle += boys

 

[Banjo64]

User reviews continue to be the shittiest metric to gauge anything.

Clearly you’ve never read my opinions.

 

[Mr Moose]

You don't need to play the game to leave a "review".

 

[Bragr]

You don't need to play the game to leave a "review".

I know, but there are plenty 0 reviews that are talking about the game in detail too. Not all of this is trolling.

 

[kruis]

see if this was a Japanese game Aloy would be having sex with the robots instead.

If it was a Japanese game, Aloy would have remained a virgin until the first octopus robot showed up.

 

[SlimySnake]

I find it odd that they review bomb the DLC and not the main game even though the main game ends in a fight where she’s being kidnapped by a woman who loves her. I guess they had made it ambiguous that Aloy wasn’t gay in the sequel but as soon as i saw that Soebeck was a lesbian, i knew Aloy would be too. She’sa clone after all and you are born gay.

I personally thought that the two had no chemistry. Like someone said, she had more chemistry with the fat mechanic chick from the first game. These two meet and go on a few missions and fall in love. Ok, but why. What do they like about each other? Is it only sexual? Do they find each other attractive? They barely ever flirt about each other’s looks. It feels very shoe horned in.

 

[Mephisto40]

So in a post apocalyptic world she chooses to be with someone she can't procreate with?

It's her choice but not one of the wisest. She needs to create offspring with the highly skilled genes as her to continue her mission of survival.

If you've played the games you'd understand she doesn't need to procreate

Or has everybody completely forgotten about Beta already?

 

[Kilau]

Well this explains why she recoiled every time I tried to grab her tits in Call of the Mountain.

 

[Markio128]

Well this explains why she recoiled every time I tried to grab her tits in Call of the Mountain.

Yeah, because a straight woman would just let you fondle her

 

[Hunnybun]

She’sa clone after all and you are born gay.

According to Era this aspect is deeply problematic, because it implies that gayness is genetic, and that's bigoted and hateful.

Yeah, was news to me too.

 

[Gojiira]

Wow two gay characters in Sony games…Big fucking woop…
More importantly is the expansion GOOD? Does it add anything new beyond a few machines? Is the plot interesting? Aloy was clearly gay even in the first game, Im only disappointed it isnt for that hot asian huntress..

 

[geary]

So an outlier from 8 years ago means everything shorter in the future should be slammed? Let's not even mention that what you're probably refering to was Blood and Wine. Hearts of stone is about the same length as Burning shores. I personally find that 20 dollars for 10 hours is pretty ok for DLC.

So it's alright to compare 3rd party games with a PS 1st party games from the production value PoV as the PS 1st party are outliers in the industry and require the same standard for 3rd parties, but when asking a 1st party DLC to have the same production value as a 3rd party DLC which is also an outlier is not ok?

 

[Tommi84]

A clone of a gay woman turns out to be gay, shocker.

Was it ever revealed in the first game that Elizabeth was a lesbian?

 

[Raonak]

Still blows my mind that people get upset that a character is gay.

 

[TGO]

Wow two gay characters in Sony games…Big fucking woop

Yeah it's only two
Atleast we have all those other straight Sony female characters like....umm...Selene

 

[geary]

The main story missions take around 5 hours to complete on easy, the side content probably bumps it up to around 7 hours

Considering the content is only £15 I think the length is pretty much ok tbh, the map is about a 3rd of the size of the main games map

Horizon Forbidden West - Burning Shores - Main + Sides 11 Hours

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Main + Sides 12 Hours

20 dollars vs 70 dollars...

 

[Umbasaborne]

Why does anyone care who the video game lady kisses?

 

[BlackTron]

Yay more corporate box ticking

Can't wait for Sonic Frontiers 2 where there are 2 character selection screens. One to pick your character, and the next to choose their sexual orientation.

 

[GermanZepp]

Why does anyone care who the video game lady kisses?

Because is BRAVE. And you would care too, and if you don't, we gonna make all characters gays until you care.

 

[feynoob]

Don't know why people can't write normal story.

I don't need to know who your character loves or what they sexual desire is.

I come for the story and gameplay.

 

[NahaNago]

This isn't even that surprising. I would expect a female lead to be gay these days especially if it comes from a western studio.

 

[SlimySnake]

Was it ever revealed in the first game that Elizabeth was a lesbian?

It was retconned in the second game. In the first game she had two male love interests who were cast aside in the sequel since it no longer made sense to have her be attracted to men.

 

[SlimySnake]

According to Era this aspect is deeply problematic, because it implies that gayness is genetic, and that's bigoted and hateful.

Yeah, was news to me too.

Weird. I guess it conflicts with the whole I’m born in the wrong body Drake of the trans community. Bizarre stance for them to take. You can be born gay and have gender dysphoria.

 

[Fart Knight]

Big YIKES

 

[AGRacing]

Saw it coming ...

But there's nothing more ridiculous than a bunch of fans screaming "Why are you so obsessed man? Why do you even care man?".

In 2023 if you're a woman in a video game your odds of being a lesbian are about 25X your odds of being a lesbian in real life. I think I'm being conservative with that one.

So the question is why are the DEVS so obsessed with lesbians? Why do THEY even care? It has exceeded the point of absurdity.

 

[Ar¢tos]

In the next GoW it will be revealed that Kratos is secretly a size queen power bottom, stay tuned!

 

[Varteras]

Don't get me wrong. I hate woke bullshit just as much as anyone here. But, you do reach a point where you go too far in being against something when every little thing is perceived as an agenda and not just a story someone wanted to tell. Gay people exist. Yes, it gets annoying at times the way it's handled. But this was one moment in a huge game, that required DLC to reach it, and it was a choice you can decide to not make. Aloy's sexuality is barely explored. It is certainly not treated as a defining aspect of her character. She could be bisexual for all we know. Early in Forbidden West you have three options for how to turn down a male character coming onto you but at least one of the options gave the hint that she might be open to it at a later time. They're not parading her around as some super lesbian. Get a grip.

 

[Pedro Motta]

Has anyone here left a review on metacritic? I sure haven't, too busy playing games and living life.

 

[geary]

In the next GoW it will be revealed that Kratos is secretly a size queen power bottom, stay tuned!

Wasnt Atreus gay or something...i think was hinted...

 

[crackajack]

I guess the thing not sitting well with players is that it feels shoehorned with how little time it takes for Aloy to warm up to this new character when she stated many times during Zero Dawn and Forbidden West that "it's not the time for that.

Havent played the DLC but loved the main game, it's my goty. If what I read is right, there are a ton of issues with this...she became colder and more calculated, more detached from everyone, it's how they build her character in parallel with Sobek and I loved that about her, which many did not, yet all I see in the DLC is the complete opposite of her character.

Seems like reasonable criticisms which I also would not like, changing a character beyond what can be explained by an evolving character, maybe finding him- her- themselves because of some revelation and big cutscene moment or whatever.

I don't mind playing a lesbian, trans, cat, alien, robot whatever, if it makes sense and is not just done for some clearly forced brownie points. Writing quality shouldn't suffer from hiring writers having a victim complex agenda and trying to paint and normalize an unreal world, unless it is supposed to be fantasy obviously.

 

[Varteras]

Wasnt Atreus gay or something...i think was hinted...

Not really. David Jaffe speculated he could be. About it.

 

[Interfectum]

It would be more brave to make her not gay and have gamer's watch a sex scene of her getting rammed hard by some Quen douchebag.

This is such a safe way to cover both check boxes. Gamers love lesbians cause they don't want their girl getting fucked by any guy but them and this checks that beloved LGBTQ+ and will net you unlimited defense points on Twitter.

 

[user friendly]

Just make a badass Killzone but don’t call it Killzone. Make it open world, dark and immersive as shit.

 

[TheCed]

So uh, it's a choice ?
and people are upset because of course they are.

Although she was really into the guy from the last game who worked for the kid king (Don't remember the names sorry)

 

[Fuz]

One day we will get to the point where race and sexual disposition are about as important as hair color. Clearly not there yet.

BURN THOSE GINGERS!

 

[mrmustard]

This happens with every PS exclusive nowadays, they all get review bombed on metacritic. The majority of the bad reviews most likely dont even own the game

All games? It's actually just the games with woke or LGBT topic that attract weirdos who make the user score red.

 

[DJTaurus]

With or without the lesbian love option forbidden west and the dlc are at best a solid 7/10 imho. And if it didn’t have the graphics and production values it’s sure a very Ubisoft like boring experience but more polished. Zero dawn at least was a little bit more enjoyable. On Forbidden west even many of its main missions were boring. This game is not close to NDs or God of Wars top notch quality….. to me even Spider-Man franchise of insomniac is better! And it’s not about the fans or some angry metacritic users ….. forbidden west won almost ZERO AWARDS! That says it all.

 

[ahtlas7]

Aloy lesbian?

 

[Three]

Wasnt Atreus gay or something...i think was hinted...

No it weren't, but in actual Norse mythology Loki turns into a female horse and gets impregnated.

 

[Games of Today]

Wasn't Ellie enough? Does everyone has to be gay in Sony games?
I'm gay and I'm disappointed because it's just to tick a box.
It would feel more natural to the game if she was straight since she had plenty of male suiters in both games and then they shove a lesbian interest in a short dlc that not everybody will play.

First of all yes. Every character has to be gay from a corporate perspective. That's the in thing right now amongst common folk, white girls in their mid 20's and of course game critics and journalists.

Second, here's a wild thought, how about she's just Asexual because she has better things to do. That's the feeling she gives off the entirety of the beginning of Forbidden West when Aaron keep tring to talk to her after they had some sort of falling out.

 

[Rykan]

Wasn't Ellie enough? Does everyone has to be gay in Sony games?
I'm gay and I'm disappointed because it's just to tick a box.
It would feel more natural to the game if she was straight since she had plenty of male suiters in both games and then they shove a lesbian interest in a short dlc that not everybody will play.

Really Sony!? You're going to have not one, but two gay characters in your games! Is everyone gay now besides..*checks notes*...oh literally every other Sony main character?

Don't know why people can't write normal story.

I don't need to know who your character loves or what they sexual desire is.

I come for the story and gameplay.

Relationships are part of any story. Your complaint is absurd.

 

[Teh Chosen Juan]

How short is short? like 6 to 8 hours would be perfect imo

honestly, it's probably under 3 hours. i just finished it last night. aside from the forced, unnecessary romance bullshit, it is pretty stunning to look at. but yeah, i believe it's only 3 missions if i remember correctly. i milled around and explored to extend it. was actually pretty shocked when the "last mission" icon popped up. it's basically a new small map with a boss fight.