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The HighPoly USA Questions Megathread

HighPoly

Banned
Car dealers have every incentive to upsell car features.
New norms in term of security (multiple airbags, ABS, Backup camera, lane assist, collision warnings, etc) and efficient gas mileage make new cars more expensive to produce.
When you add on top of that the big tariff USA and Europe put on cheap cars from abroad, there is no incentive for the car makers to make cheap cars.

SUV and trucks are bigger, so even from a physics point of view, more material is always going to be more expensive.
A truck of today is almost twice as heavy as a truck from 20 years ago.

Look at the new truck Toyota made that isn't available in the US.


It would sell like pancakes but it would not make a lot of US auto makers happy, so they are basically banning it.

In US, FORD F150 is considered a luxury truck? I mean, in small cities? cause of cowboy culture...?
 

HighPoly

Banned
Smartphones, consoles, clothes and cars in USA uses to be cheaper...

But HOUSES are expensive as hell !

Who can make this dream come true there? below

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Not a luxury house, but not a poor house...

which families, jobs, salary buys that house? based on your town/state
 
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Meicyn

Gold Member
I can't imagine myself in the country now, I'd get deported for not giving a fuck about social media, not wanting to be famous and probably for not caring about peoples genders.
lmao

You sure about that? Because this reads like a Facebook/Twitter post constructed to generate clicks. I’m convinced you actively read social media but want to project a persona that you don’t.

America can’t even properly deal with illegal entry into the country, much less deport people over shit no one actually cares about unless you’re terminally online.
 

StueyDuck

Member
lmao

You sure about that? Because this reads like a Facebook/Twitter post constructed to generate clicks. I’m convinced you actively read social media but want to project a persona that you don’t.

America can’t even properly deal with illegal entry into the country, much less deport people over shit no one actually cares about unless you’re terminally online.
I mean... tv and news and newspaper articles and podcasts and so on and so forth all exist.

Do you think none of that exists anywhere except twitter?

I literally watched an episode of quantum leap (the new absolutely awful show) where they basically took 10 minutes to "educate" me, the audience about gender pronouns 🤣 and the funniest thing is that it's not even the first episode they've done it.

I see news channels cover the mental disability of most of the US as they run to their local store and trample all the kids and security guards to buy a cup just because it's a brand. A fucking cup.

If this isn't the picture Americans wanna paint then it's literally all they are painting right now for the world to see 🤷‍♂️

I'm south african I know all people see from us is crime and lions and people then think it's too dangerous to live but the fact is.... yeah... alot of what is being painted about SA is true. Where there's smoke there's fire. Doesn't mean there aren't great parts here, there absolutely are and I'm sure the US is the same but they need to start showing us that again.

As I said, in the 2000s the US painted a picture of a great country to live, I was always jealous as fuck.

Right now, I'm looking elsewhere for that picturesque life.
 
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Meicyn

Gold Member
I mean... tv and news and newspaper articles and podcasts and so on and so forth all exist.

Do you think none of that exists anywhere except twitter?

I literally watched an episode of quantum leap (the new absolutely awful show) where they basically took 10 minutes to "educate" me, the audience about gender pronouns 🤣 and the funniest thing is that it's not even the first episode they've done it.

I see news channels cover the mental disability of most of the US as they run to their local store and trample all the kids and security guards to buy a cup just because it's a brand. A fucking cup.

If this isn't the picture Americans wanna paint then it's literally all they are painting right now to the world 🤷‍♂️
What part of any of this led you to the conclusion that if you don’t say the right pronoun to some random screeching purple hair lady, it would result in your deportation? Or that not having an Instagram account would potentially put you at risk of an encounter with ICE agents?

I mean, if you said you wouldn’t want to visit because you don’t want to get shot, that would have merit. I won’t dare step foot in East St Louis, for example.
 

StueyDuck

Member
What part of any of this led you to the conclusion that if you don’t say the right pronoun to some random screeching purple hair lady, it would result in your deportation? Or that not having an Instagram account would potentially put you at risk of an encounter with ICE agents?

I mean, if you said you wouldn’t want to visit because you don’t want to get shot, that would have merit. I won’t dare step foot in East St Louis, for example.
Ahhh I see.

You don't understand it's tongue in cheek.

I don't think I'll literally physically get deported. That was the joke.

The joke is that they take all those stupid things so seriously and it is so important that even the thought of being deported for it isn't so crazy. Clearly you wouldn't legally be deported for those things.
 
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HighPoly

Banned
In small cities, yeah. Some folks use trucks for their intended purpose, but others use it mostly as a fashion statement. The condition of the truck bed tells the story.
How much costs a car you consider expensive, like luxury or near luxury, maybe an upper middle class car?
Not talking about Rolls Royce or Ferrarri that are for millionaires, but an expensive car that makes it's own statement you've been working hard?
 

Meicyn

Gold Member
I own two homes like that, both in northwest Florida. I bought the first one for $170,000 back in 2012. It is currently valued at $350,000 now. Why? It‘s close to Destin, a tourist area with some of the best white sand beaches in the nation.

I now live in an area between rural and suburban southern Illinois, paid $220,000 for an all brick home with a good chunk of land last year. I can shoot guns, garden, light a bonfire, do whatever I want on my property. Deer, possums, cardinals, blue jays, all sorts of wildlife show up regularly. Get tons of butterflies and honeybees when the flowers bloom. Living in the middle of nowhere is paradise IMO.
 

Mistake

Member
It's possible with a lot of hard work. Difficult to see when starting out, but it is. I don't envy anyone drowning in college debt though, because not every degree has a return. But I'm lucky where I make just as much now than if I went to school

In terms of housing, you'll find the market more or less fluctuates as it always has, but don't get your hopes up with a dream house near a major city. If you buy property in a decent location with potential for development in the surrounding area, you can have a solid investment still.
 
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Meicyn

Gold Member
Ahhh I see.

You don't understand it's tongue in cheek.

I don't think I'll literally physically get deported. That was the joke.

The joke is that they take all those stupid things so seriously and it is so important that even the thought of being deported for it isn't so crazy. Clearly you wouldn't legally be deported for those things.
Fair enough! I’ll back off, when you’re wrong, you’re wrong.
 

Sybrix

Member
This isnt an American issue, it's a western world issue.

It's the same in the UK.

That house in the south of England would easily be $650k - $800K. In the North probably $400k - $600k.

The 3/4 bed picket fence house and the UK equivalent is an easy half-mil.

Im in my 30s, i bought my house in 2020 before COVID, my salary is around $70k PA.

As of right now, there's no way i would be able to buy the house im in now due to the current economical climate.

Interest rates have been low, too low for the last 10-15 years, making credit cheap and buying houses a bit easier. However post-covid and Russia/Ukraine war has forced the rates up higher than they would have been anyway.

This is what happens in Capitalist countries when they dont build social housing.

Most countries in the EU have a pretty decent social housing policies and provide housing for the population, buying a house in main land Europe is quite an alien concept, majority rent because the availability of social housing is ample.

The UK is in the midst of its worst housing crisis ever, there isnt enough for the population.
 
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Meicyn

Gold Member
How much costs a car you consider expensive, like luxury or near luxury, maybe an upper middle class car?
Not talking about Rolls Royce or Ferrarri that are for millionaires, but an expensive car that makes it's own statement you've been working hard?
UMC vehicle? Each of the major brands have more upscale options. For example, if you like Honda as a company, instead of a Honda you would buy an Acura.
 

Bojji

Member
You’ll find the States down at the bottom.
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Sure, all investments have equity potential, but there’s a lot of factors. I lost money on 2 homes in the States.

Central/Eastern Europe at top, probably thanks to super cheap apartments during communism, now everything is super expensive (like everywhere). I own my apartment but mostly thanks to luck, as a millennial I couldn't afford it otherwise.

Living in US: as a kid (watching american movies) it was my dream to live in USA but I don't think I want it anymore after learning about all the downsides. I think I will just live in the hell I know for the rest of my life, hahaha Poland 30 years ago and now, difference is massive and it will get better
 
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HighPoly

Banned
This isnt an American issue, it's a western world issue.

It's the same in the UK.

That house in the south of England would easily be $650k - $800K. In the North probably $400k - $600k.

The 3/4 bed picket fence house and the UK equivalent is an easy half-mil.

Im in my 30s, i bought my house in 2020 before COVID, my salary is around $70k PA.

As of right now, there's no way i would be able to buy the house im in now due to the current economical climate.

Interest rates have been low, too low for the last 10-15 years, making credit cheap and buying houses a bit easier. However post-covid and Russia/Ukraine war has forced the rates up higher than they would have been anyway.

This is what happens in Capitalist countries when they dont build social housing.

Most countries in the EU have a pretty decent social housing policies and provide housing for the population, buying a house in main land Europe is quite an alien concept, majority rent because the availability of social housing is ample.

The UK is in the midst of its worst housing crisis ever, there isnt enough for the population.
Yes, people says EUROPE is some much better than US to live, but I don't really know...

Cause depending on which state you decide to live in US, life could be better or worse...
The same thing about EUROPE, as you said.

Violence in US is extreme, but depends on states/cities
 
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Mossybrew

Member
The joke is that they take all those stupid things so seriously

Eh, keep in mind the internet isn't real life. Most places in the US, in your normal day to day life people don't really care about that shit or talk about it. Maybe if you live in downtown Portland or something but why would you ever do that.
 

StueyDuck

Member
Eh, keep in mind the internet isn't real life. Most places in the US, in your normal day to day life people don't really care about that shit or talk about it. Maybe if you live in downtown Portland or something but why would you ever do that.
i did say they're wont be places like that, just like there are many great places where i am where you won't even worry about crime or anything like that.

it's just the picture that is mostly being represented to the world right now. When we get any media coverage, whether thats news or Television or whatever it may be, that is what we are barraged with daily.

The only other side of the US we get to see here is the Hoorah US military when they stop/port here and do local training and so on and.... yeah that doesn't always paint a great picture as well, but that will happen with any situation with with any army, a bunch of young men trained in violence being let loose on the local town that isn't their country...
 
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belmarduk

Member
Don't listen to the people telling you to just walk in.
You'll want to emigrate legally and it will be difficult to get a good job otherwise.
 

Trogdor1123

Member
It is extremely location specific. There are loads of places with good wages and cheap homes.

I live in Canada and Alberta has the highest wages in the country but some of the cheapest homes (at least for now).
 
Housing prices in western europe are insane too, even more so I would argue since you generally get much less surface area than US houses; social housing is good but the wait lists are long, most people who rent outside of social housing will share it with someone else because prices quickly get stupid.
 

German Hops

GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
It is extremely location specific. There are loads of places with good wages and cheap homes.

I live in Canada and Alberta has the highest wages in the country but some of the cheapest homes (at least for now).
I'm coming to Alberta, then.
 

HighPoly

Banned
UMC vehicle? Each of the major brands have more upscale options. For example, if you like Honda as a company, instead of a Honda you would buy an Acura.
yeah, the basic premium models, like Mercedes C Class, BMM 3 Series, Audi A4, Some Lexus, Acura or Infinite models
 

Blade2.0

Member

SpiceRacz

Member
Housing prices vary wildly across the US. The house pictured looks like a fairly new-build. The price could be anywhere from under $300k in Mississippi to over $800k in California.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
Car dealers have every incentive to upsell car features.
New norms in term of security (multiple airbags, ABS, Backup camera, lane assist, collision warnings, etc) and efficient gas mileage make new cars more expensive to produce.
When you add on top of that the big tariff USA and Europe put on cheap cars from abroad, there is no incentive for the car makers to make cheap cars.

SUV and trucks are bigger, so even from a physics point of view, more material is always going to be more expensive.
A truck of today is almost twice as heavy as a truck from 20 years ago.

Look at the new truck Toyota made that isn't available in the US.


It would sell like pancakes but it would not make a lot of US auto makers happy, so they are basically banning it.

i would buy this in today in cash if it was available in the US
 

Lord Panda

The Sea is Always Right
Car dealers have every incentive to upsell car features.
New norms in term of security (multiple airbags, ABS, Backup camera, lane assist, collision warnings, etc) and efficient gas mileage make new cars more expensive to produce.
When you add on top of that the big tariff USA and Europe put on cheap cars from abroad, there is no incentive for the car makers to make cheap cars.

SUV and trucks are bigger, so even from a physics point of view, more material is always going to be more expensive.
A truck of today is almost twice as heavy as a truck from 20 years ago.

Look at the new truck Toyota made that isn't available in the US.


It would sell like pancakes but it would not make a lot of US auto makers happy, so they are basically banning it.


Same reason why it's not available in Australia. They'd have to tune it and build it to Australian conditions (we have a billion Toyota models already driving around happily here already), but I suspect the real reason is that it would undercut their normal Hilux sales here by a huge margin. I would buy this thing in a heartbeat if it was available here.

 
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EverydayBeast

thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Cara today are fun, I think they most likely pass as luxury, they’re electric, have solar panels etc.
 

Shifty1897

Member
Housing prices vary wildly across the US. The house pictured looks like a fairly new-build. The price could be anywhere from under $300k in Mississippi to over $800k in California.
This house would be about 250-300k where I live in Alabama. It would be a million where I used to live outside of Portland, Oregon. Run down two bedroom one bath houses on my old street routinely went for $600,000. I rented in a triplex.
 

Faust

Perpetually Tired
Staff Member
Smartphones, consoles, clothes and cars in USA uses to be cheaper...

But HOUSES are expensive as hell !

Who can make this dream come true there? below

aLRWgfB.jpg

Not a luxury house, but not a poor house...

which families, jobs, salary buys that house? based on your town/state
This would be around 150,000 to 200,000 in my area. Maybe cheaper. Midwest is pretty cheap to live in the large towns. Avoid cities.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
In Atlanta, that could fetch between 200k to 450k.

In San Francisco or Los Angeles... 800k to 1.1million. Shoot... Even some rundown houses can go for around 500k
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I’m the Toronto GTA that nice looking home which looks like 3 bedroom 3 bathroom would go for $1M minimum. The nicer the neighbourhood and closer to the downtown core you are easily $2M.

That’s a very suburban looking kind of home so you won’t see that kind of new looking house in the core. But in the core, a similar sized older house in a respectable old neighborhood with giant trees would probably be $2-3M.

For any of you who live in a city with few immigrants and think all the foreigners who come over are all dirt broke you are totally wrong. Maybe ones running over the border to Texas are, but not the immigrants that come to Canada who mostly skew to BC or Ontario.
 
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WoJ

Member
I'm in the Columbus, OH metro. In any worthwhile suburb that house is going for $450K on the low end. 800k or more on the high end here.
 

Havoc2049

Member
I'm not that up to date on the market, but in greater Los Angeles area in California this would probably go anywhere from $450K to $800+K depending on the location.
You're low balling the LA Metro area. Try $650-800k in the sticks and up to $2.5 mil in a costal LA/OC suburb.

In San Diego, CA, I've seen one bedroom condos on the coast going for $1 million.
 
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