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[Kenka]

17th March.

Ah, alright, it is normal to see it gather interest then. Your anecdotal evidence suggests nothing but a strong demand from early buyers/fans of both franchises but it is still good to hear. We may see the title sell healthily and pave the way for Layton x Ace Attorney.

 

[Mpl90]

Ah, alright, it is normal to see it gather interest then. Your anecdotal evidence suggests nothing but a strong demand from early buyers/fans of both franchises but it is still good to hear. We may see the title sell healthily and pave the way for Layton x Ace Attorney.

...It's a DS title, why it should pave the way for a 3DS one?

For Code of Princess, I'll say something impossible: 33 copies!

 

[Orgen]

...I'm sorry Orgen, but there are changes today that NEED an Amazon Watch

First of all: the first position. Pokemon + Nobunaga's Ambition is first! :lol
...And the fact preorders already started, with even the boxart, makes me think that, maybe, the Coro Coro surprise could be something else, after all!
Then, Kid Icarus Uprising. Preorders started, already 12th.
Code of Princess is 58th, what the hell.
And Shinrei Camera is at 600 yen more than its retail price. Sold out on Amazon, at least.

SRT OG Saga: Masou Kishin II, in the bundle edition, is sold out as well.

Less people will love you... have you seen Takao? Even putting the SRT game I don't think you can win him back

So we still don't know what's the Coro Coro announcement for the 14th?

 

[mentalfloss]

I made a stacked bar graph with these numbers. (Note: blue = third party, red = first party)

So I can see why third parties might not like developing for Nintendo systems. Nintendo is a goddamn beast.

The DS bar actually highlights what a truly successful platform should be when you consider the 3rd party to first party ratio at that point in its lifespan. The PSP and PS3 bars are evidence that Sony had to continue to pump a lot of first party stuff just to keep their platforms going.

 

[Kenka]

...It's a DS title, why it should pave the way for a 3DS one?

Oops. My bad. So it can do big numbers ! 500k is in I assume. 1M would make it a sensational hit.

 

[1-D_FTW]

The top 20 sales chart is what makes Vita so sickly looking. Good gravy.

 

[mentalfloss]

My god.. Nintendo is just raping everyone in Japan and preventing their abortions.

 

[Mpl90]

Less people will love you... have you seen Takao? Even putting the SRT game I don't think you can win him back

So we still don't know what's the Coro Coro announcement for the 14th?

No, and I repeat.
The fact that preorders started before the coming of Coro Coro, with all the infos, and the trailer, make me think that maybe the "shocking Pokémon announcement" is not Pokemon + Nobunaga, after all.

IIRC, this never happened in other similar cases. Could we have the Coro Coro announcement this night, due to a leak like it always happen with Famitsu?

 

[king zell]

Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Masou Kishin I & II (this week biggest release)

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/55111/

Shinrei Camera (horror hits the 3DS)

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/55104/

more releases for the week

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/55099/

 

[Exterminieren]

No, and I repeat.
The fact that preorders started before the coming of Coro Coro, with all the infos, and the trailer, make me think that maybe the "shocking Pokémon announcement" is not Pokemon + Nobunaga, after all.

IIRC, this never happened in other similar cases. Could we have the Coro Coro announcement this night, due to a leak like it always happen with Famitsu?

Coro Coro has started leaking, and it seems that the story is Nobunaga's Ambition, after all.

There is apparently some news about DLC for Pokedex 3D, but nothing in the retail space.

 

[Souldriver]

The top 20 sales chart is what makes Vita so sickly looking. Good gravy.

Isn't it rather usual that launch software drops off a cliff in the weeks after the launch? If I remember correctly, the 3DS launch titles were practically gone as well, after two or three weeks.

 

[diffusionx]

I want to be clear, I never thought the PSV was going to "Fail" and I still don't. It's going to make a profit for Sony, and it's going to get a similar userbase to the PSP, it's just not going to break out of that.

Would Sony consider that a success, though?

I mean, nobody invests X in something to make X + 1. If Sony can't grow the userbase and deliver this thing to more people, is that still successful?

Not sure. Maybe, since it's not like Sony's other handheld devices are doing jack. But Sony was practically made on handheld devices and I can't help but think they want more than being the also-ran in the portable game device segment.

 

[Kenka]

Would Sony consider that a success, though?

I mean, nobody invests X in something to make X + 1. If Sony can't grow the userbase and deliver this thing to more people, is that still successful?

Not sure. Maybe, since it's not like Sony's other handheld devices are doing jack. But Sony was practically made on handheld devices and I can't help but think they want more than being the also-ran in the portable game device segment.

Think about the entire ecosystem (lol, I am starting to use that non-sense expression too).

Nintendo did experience drops in hardware three times in a row with their home consoles and once with their handheld systems but they still were able to generate growth. PSP's software sales were never too hot and they can definitely get an increase with the Vita. Of course, Vita has to have a sizeable userbase first. But it is already not to exensive to produce thanks to the mainstream components.

 

[Mpl90]

Coro Coro has started leaking, and it seems that the story is Nobunaga's Ambition, after all.

There is apparently some news about DLC for Pokedex 3D, but nothing in the retail space.

Ah. Well then. Pokemon Grey's announcement DELAYED.

 

[Anzan]

Replying to a few comments in here:

Capcom actually predicted 1.2 million shipped to retailers by the end of March. They've obviously already passed that with more than 1 million sold through to consumers.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Have the new Famitsu Top 30 in. 2011 Top 100 inclusion soon.

FF XIII-2 (5367) is behaving much like a few ~900K games. A little more frontloaded.

Mario Kart 7's fifth week almost perfectly matches Mario Kart Wii's, so it's no closer or farther from top of the MK pile.

Isn't it rather usual that launch software drops off a cliff in the weeks after the launch? If I remember correctly, the 3DS launch titles were practically gone as well, after two or three weeks.

Layton hung in the Top 30 until June, Nintendogs has stayed in most of the time since launch. BUT a point that's often made against Vita is the opposite here--since the rest of the year is quieter than December/January, there was less pushing them out.

 

[Kenka]

What is this game that toally died at 600k Joshua ? Xilia ?

 

[test_account]

Would Sony consider that a success, though?

I mean, nobody invests X in something to make X + 1. If Sony can't grow the userbase and deliver this thing to more people, is that still successful?

Not sure. Maybe, since it's not like Sony's other handheld devices are doing jack. But Sony was practically made on handheld devices and I can't help but think they want more than being the also-ran in the portable game device segment.

Why do you think that it is X + 1?

 

[Gaborn]

Would Sony consider that a success, though?

I mean, nobody invests X in something to make X + 1. If Sony can't grow the userbase and deliver this thing to more people, is that still successful?

Not sure. Maybe, since it's not like Sony's other handheld devices are doing jack. But Sony was practically made on handheld devices and I can't help but think they want more than being the also-ran in the portable game device segment.

Sony is going to swear up and down to consumers that they're in it to win it. They'll play that they're in competition for themselves, but everyone will "know" they're competing with Nintendo. They're really not. They're in it to make as much money for as long as possible and nothing more. Sony has made a judgement that even though the PSP is doing well right now it's success will not be as sustained as (or alternately will not be hampered by) a successor system being introduced to the market that will eventually take the PSP's mantle and continue to sell and (whether they are NOW or not) will make them more money than, say, if the Vita was introduced a year from now if they believed that was when PSP ran out of steam.

The numbers don't actually "matter" except to the extent it attracts developers to put their games and potential revenue drivers on their system. Sony wants to sell well because it will encourage games LIKE monster hunter (which certainly came to the PSP because of it's success at a console level on Sony systems) which drives the userbase which drivers software sales. But whether Sony sells 100% of their userbase or 120% or 300% they don't care where they finish in the console wars, they care how much money it allows them to make from consumers. The system wars are tied into that because it can affect the userbase but they're not in it for the competition, they're in it for the money.

 

[dragonfart28]

Nintendo looking good, but Vita has no where to go but up.

 

[charlequin]

But whether Sony sells 100% of their userbase or 120% or 300% they don't care where they finish in the console wars, they care how much money it allows them to make from consumers.

I do think it is extremely plausible that the Vita project as a whole has been designed and shepherded in such a fashion as to be profitable for Sony even with a relatively small worldwide userbase.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

2011 Top 100 in.

Though OOT3D fell out of the Top 30, it's kept on trucking and gained 36K since.

Mario Kart DS is the oldest game to make the list.

Budget games can sell at a quite consistent rate.

What is this game that toally died at 600k Joshua ? Xilia ?

Yep. As of the end of 2011, Xillia's first week accounts for about 81% of its sales.

 

[Gaborn]

I do think it is extremely plausible that the Vita project as a whole has been designed and shepherded in such a fashion as to be profitable for Sony even with a relatively small worldwide userbase.

It only makes sense. The Vita is the Ferrari of systems if you will. It's very high end compared to the 3DS and is a technological marvel. But it's not going to sell as much as a Ford Fusion say. The Vita has to be sustainable with a lower install base because you'd expect that, but my guess is since there is more room for the price to drop there is more room for a higher disconnect where the system generates more revenue than the average 3DS (Not now of course, but over time).

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I do think it is extremely plausible that the Vita project as a whole has been designed and shepherded in such a fashion as to be profitable for Sony even with a relatively small worldwide userbase.

Heh. If so, interesting to see how different Sony's take on this is compared to Wii.

 

[Mpl90]

2011 Top 100 in.



Budget games can sell at a quite consistent rate.

And to think this is the last Momotarou game EVER.

Reports? Where are they?

 

[guek]

I do think it is extremely plausible that the Vita project as a whole has been designed and shepherded in such a fashion as to be profitable for Sony even with a relatively small worldwide userbase.

This is possible but to think such a modest goal is Sony's overall aim is much too apologetic of the Vita's mediocre sales (not that I think that's what you're saying).

To think Sony wants anything less than handheld gaming dominance is a bit naive. But if they can end up turning an overall profit on the thing (something I'm not entirely sure of at this point but isn't unlikely either) by the end of its lifetime, it'd at least avoid being labeled a complete failure by the higher ups.

 

[cw_sasuke]

I do think it is extremely plausible that the Vita project as a whole has been designed and shepherded in such a fashion as to be profitable for Sony even with a relatively small worldwide userbase.

Which is probably true, for the first couple of years - their strategy is to "out live" the 3DS, like PSP did with the DS in Japan and Ps3 with Wii.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Konami really shit the bed with Momotaru. It could've been their 3rd biggest franchise in Japan after Metal Gear and Winning Eleven.

 

[Gaborn]

This is possible but to think such a modest goal is Sony's overall aim is much too apologetic of the Vita's mediocre sales (not that I think that's what you're saying).

To think Sony wants anything less than handheld gaming dominance is a bit naive. But if they can end up turning an overall profit on the thing (something I'm not entirely sure of at this point but isn't unlikely either) by the end of its lifetime, it'd at least avoid being labeled a complete failure by the higher ups.

Sony wants to make money. Would they "like" to sell 30 million Vitas in Japan? Sure, because they'd be making a fuckton of money. Does Sony believe that is possible? I highly doubt it. They went high end because Nintendo went main stream, thereby sacrificing overall sales to make a better profit with a smaller userbase.

 

[idlewild_]

It only makes sense. The Vita is the Ferrari of systems if you will. It's very high end compared to the 3DS and is a technological marvel. But it's not going to sell as much as a Ford Fusion say.

I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that high-end cars have a much higher markup for the name, so they get more profit/unit. In the case of the Vita, it is selling at/under the cost to manufacture a unit, so wouldn't they also need volume to compete in profits? Looking at the system, I'd imagine it is going to take a good amount of time before the costs are low enough for them to sell in low volume and still recoup their development costs. It seemed to me that when they announced that the price of the Vita would be the same as the 3DS, that they were trying to get a high volume portable (and that they didn't expect the 3DS to get such a drastic price cut so quickly,) and that by the time the price cut happened it was too late for them to go back and reprice the system for a higher/existent profit margin. Probably also why they pumped out so many more 3g units.

 

[Gaborn]

I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that high-end cars have a much higher markup for the name, so they get more profit/unit. In the case of the Vita, it is selling at/under the cost to manufacture a unit, so wouldn't they also need volume to compete in profits? Looking at the system, I'd imagine it is going to take a good amount of time before the costs are low enough for them to sell in low volume and still recoup their development costs. It seemed to me that when they announced that the price of the Vita would be the same as the 3DS, that they were trying to get a high volume portable.

Well, like I said, I think with the Vita it's going to have longer periods at a higher price where the costs have already decreased, thus more opportunities to generate higher revenue in between price drops.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Week 1, 2012 (Dec 26 - Jan 01)

01./01. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 118.363 / 1.200.754 (-57%)
02./04. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 104.999 / 914.321 (-34%)
03./03. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 84.986 / 1.127.497 (-58%)
04./02. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.22} (¥7.800) - 76.118 / 286.671 (-64%)
05./07. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980) - 47.151 / 744.297 (-48%)
06./08. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.12.15} (¥5.800) - 46.755 / 278.807 (-48%)
07./06. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800) - 33.874 / 461.748 (-69%)
08./11. [WII] Wii Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800) - 28.758 / 2.152.531 (-59%)
09./05. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800) - 28.613 / 527.041 (-78%)
10./16. [WII] Wii Sports Resort <SPT> (Nintendo) {2009.06.25} (¥4.800) - 21.942 / 2.754.597 (-56%)
11./20. [WII] Go Vacation <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.20} (¥5.800) - 20.749 / 201.551 (-51%)
12./21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800) - 19.280 / 3.399.628 (-52%)
13./09. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.22} (¥6.090) - 18.979 / 102.435 (-77%)
14./14. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Definitive Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} (¥5.040) - 18.599 / 150.430 (-64%)
15./10. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme <SPT> (Level 5) {2011.12.22} (¥4.980) - 17.993 / 92.492 (-76%)
16./15. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2011.12.22} (¥7.980) - 16.075 / 65.675 (-68%)
17./23. [PSP] Frontier Gate <RPG> (Konami) {2011.12.22} (¥5.250) - 15.422 / 45.405 (-49%)
18./22. [WII] Rhythm Heaven: Fever <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.07.21} (¥5.800) - 14.872 / 648.301 (-63%)
19./00. [PS3] The Idolmaster: Gravure For You! Vol. 3 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.29} (¥9.980) - 14.644 / NEW
20./24. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 Ketteiban <SPT> (Konami) {2011.12.22} (¥5.250) - 14.384 / 43.854 (-51%)
21./18. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle 2 - New World # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.17} (¥5.230) - 14.322 / 254.608 (-71%)
22./19. [NDS] Magician's Quest: Oshare na Mahou Tsukai <ETC> (Konami) {2011.12.10} (¥4.980) - 14.257 / 119.109 (-67%)
23./12. [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World <ADV> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.11.12} (¥5.800) - 14.098 / 225.707 (-80%)
24./17. [WII] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2011.12.08} (¥5.800) - 13.825 / 115.341 (-72%)
25./30. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990) - 13.557 / 136.642 (-40%)
26./28. [WII] Itadaki Street Wii <TBL> (Square Enix) {2011.12.01} (¥6.090) - 12.949 / 102.494 (-45%)
27./09. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.22} (¥6.090) - 11.618 / 444.009 (-86%)
28./00. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.11.03} (¥4.980) - 11.560 / 127.652
29./13. [PSP] Mahou Shoujo Nanoha A's Portable: The Gears of Destiny # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.22} (¥5.229) - 10.840 / 63.314 (-79%)
30./26. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800) - 10.309 / 442.215 (-60%)

Top 30

WII - 12
3DS - 7
PSP - 5
PS3 - 4
NDS - 2

SOFTWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |
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|  3DS  |      30,9% |      29,6% |       0,0% |
|  WII  |      21,2% |      27,6% |      33,4% |
|  PS3  |      20,5% |      16,5% |       9,8% |
|  PSP  |      13,0% |      10,9% |      28,0% |
|  NDS  |       8,4% |      10,9% |      26,9% |
|  PSV  |       4,4% |       3,2% |       0,0% |
|  360  |       1,5% |       1,2% |       1,4% |
|  OTH  |       0,1% |       0,1% |       0,1% |
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HARDWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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|  3DS  |    203.605 |    510.629 |            |    203.605 |            |   4.339.344 |
|  PS3  |     62.554 |     71.689 |     69.606 |     62.554 |     69.606 |   7.479.702 |
| PSP # |     56.546 |    101.370 |     75.982 |     56.546 |     75.982 |  18.293.654 |
|  PSV  |     42.918 |     81.387 |            |     42.918 |            |     445.712 |
|  WII  |     37.933 |     94.468 |     97.117 |     37.933 |     97.117 |  12.205.676 |
| NDS # |      2.312 |      5.001 |    114.793 |      2.312 |    114.793 |  32.838.795 |
|  360  |      2.156 |      3.649 |      5.151 |      2.156 |      5.151 |   1.522.894 |
|  PS2  |        812 |      1.139 |      2.532 |        812 |      2.532 |  21.955.103 |
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|  ALL  |    408.836 |    869.332 |    365.181 |    408.836 |    365.181 |  99.080.880 |
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|  DSi  |      2.312 |      5.001 |    111.635 |      2.312 |    111.635 |   8.248.491 |
|  PSP  |     56.546 |    101.370 |     69.068 |     56.546 |     69.068 |  18.133.079 |
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Famitsu Sales: CY 2011 {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25}


001. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} - 1.082.391 / 1.082.391
002. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} - 1.042.511 / 1.042.511
003. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) {2010.12.01} - 1.021.457 / 4.502.446
004. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # (Capcom) {2011.12.10} - 809.322 / 809.322
005. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} - 697.146 / 697.146
006. [PSP] Final Fantasy Type-0 (Square Enix) {2011.10.27} - 696.428 / 696.428
007. [WII] Rhythm Heaven: Fever (Nintendo) {2011.07.21} - 633.429 / 633.429
008. [PS3] Tales of Xillia # (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.09.08} - 632.151 / 632.151
009. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) {2009.06.25} - 612.807 / 2.732.655
010. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} - 584.545 / 2.123.773
011. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 - Professional (Square Enix) {2011.03.31} - 528.648 / 528.648
012. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} - 498.428 / 498.428
013. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} - 498.145 / 498.145
014. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 # (Koei Tecmo) {2011.03.10} - 470.773 / 470.773
015. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White # (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} - 464.322 / 5.379.135
016. [PSP] Dissidia: 012 Final Fantasy # (Square Enix) {2011.03.03} - 461.086 / 461.086
017. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs. (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.01} - 432.391 / 432.391
018. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} - 431.906 / 431.906
019. [WII] Just Dance Wii (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} - 427.874 / 427.874
020. [PS3] Yakuza: Dead Souls (Sega) {2011.06.09} - 409.949 / 409.949
021. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 (Konami) {2011.10.06} - 405.757 / 405.757
022. [PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Ver. (Capcom) {2011.08.25} - 404.501 / 404.501
023. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} - 402.712 / 3.380.348
024. [PSP] Dai-2-Ji Super Robot Wars Z: Hakai-hen (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.04.14} - 398.017 / 398.017
025. [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo) {2010.12.09} - 392.050 / 952.018
026. [WII] Dragon Quest 25th Anniversary: Famicom & Super Famicom Dragon Quest I-II-III (Square Enix) {2011.09.15} - 387.114 / 387.114
027. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity (Sega) {2011.02.24} - 373.309 / 373.309
028. [PSP] AKB1/48: If I loved an Idol in Guam... # (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.06} - 362.059 / 362.059
029. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (Level 5) {2011.02.26} - 354.344 / 354.344
030. [PSP] SD Gundam G Generation: World (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.02.24} - 336.699 / 336.699
031. [PS3] Dark Souls (From Software) {2011.09.22} - 334.302 / 334.302
032. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 3 Z (Koei Tecmo) {2011.02.10} - 328.716 / 328.716
033. [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience (Level 5) {2011.06.16} - 324.204 / 324.204
034. [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} - 310.133 / 310.133
035. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} - 284.540 / 4.369.535
036. [WII] The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword # (Nintendo) {2011.11.23} - 278.749 / 278.749
037. [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.02.10} - 278.359 / 278.359
038. [PSP] Taiko Drum Master Portable DX (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.07.14} - 265.635 / 265.635
039. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Subtitled Edition (Square Enix) {2011.11.17} - 258.215 / 258.215
040. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} - 256.387 / 256.387
041. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} - 254.452 / 6.269.677
042. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Extend (Sega) {2011.11.10} - 250.025 / 250.025
043. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Felyne G (Capcom) {2011.08.10} - 245.210 / 245.210
044. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle 2 - New World # (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.17} - 240.286 / 240.286
045. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 237.132 / 569.443
046. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark (Level 5) {2011.12.15} - 232.052 / 232.052
047. [WII] Mario Sports Mix (Nintendo) {2010.11.25} - 222.960 / 645.005
048. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) {2011.04.14} - 219.966 / 219.966
049. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 (Konami) {2011.07.14} - 219.811 / 219.811
050. [NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (Capcom) {2011.02.03} - 219.682 / 219.682
051. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers (Level 5) {2011.07.16} - 216.058 / 216.058
052. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.05.26} - 213.840 / 213.840
053. [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World (Pokemon Co.) {2011.11.12} - 211.609 / 211.609
054. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 # (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.22} - 210.553 / 210.553
055. [PS3] Catherine (Atlus Co.) {2011.02.17} - 206.557 / 206.557
056. [NDS] Battle & Get! Pokemon Typing DS (Pokemon Co.) {2011.04.21} - 201.723 / 201.723
057. [PSP] Final Fantasy IV: The Complete Collection (Square Enix) {2011.03.24} - 198.630 / 198.630
058. [PSP] Eiyuu Densetsu: Ao no Kiseki # (Nihon Falcom) {2011.09.29} - 194.940 / 194.940
059. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) {2009.10.01} - 187.985 / 2.336.182
060. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005.12.08} - 185.452 / 3.894.723
061. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 (Konami) {2011.07.14} - 182.505 / 182.505
062. [WII] Go Vacation (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.20} - 180.802 / 180.802
063. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) {2011.04.14} - 175.066 / 175.066
064. [PSP] AKB1/48: If I loved an Idol... # (Bandai Namco Games) {2010.12.23} - 174.729 / 410.673
065. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 7: Euro + (Sega) {2011.08.04} - 168.263 / 168.263
066. [PS3] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts) {2011.11.02} - 167.379 / 167.379
067. [PS3] Ace Combat: Assault Horizon (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.13} - 165.127 / 165.127
068. [PS3] Gekijouban Macross F: Sayonara no Tsubasa - Hybrid Pack # (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.20} - 164.578 / 164.578
069. [PS3] Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2011.11.02} - 164.266 / 164.266
070. [WII] Super Mario All-Stars (Nintendo) {2010.10.21} - 163.391 / 916.410
071. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! The Ogre (Level 5) {2010.12.16} - 159.562 / 455.558
072. [WII] The Last Story (Nintendo) {2011.01.27} - 157.359 / 157.359
073. [PSP] Sengoku Basara: Chronicle Heroes (Capcom) {2011.07.21} - 157.006 / 157.006
074. [PSP] 7th Dragon 2020 # (Sega) {2011.11.23} - 153.752 / 153.752
075. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3: Utage (Capcom) {2011.11.10} - 153.056 / 153.056
076. [PSP] Valkyria Chronicles III (Sega) {2011.01.27} - 152.659 / 152.659
077. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2010.12.02} - 149.004 / 270.672
078. [3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles (Koei Tecmo) {2011.02.26} - 147.777 / 147.777
079. [PSP] Patapon 3 (SCE) {2011.04.28} - 145.362 / 145.362
080. [PS3] Resident Evil: Revival Selection (Capcom) {2011.09.08} - 139.198 / 139.198
081. [PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.08.04} - 138.838 / 138.838
082. [PSP] Amagami (EBKore+) (Kadokawa Shoten) {2011.03.31} - 138.175 / 138.175
083. [3DS] Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition (Capcom) {2011.02.26} - 137.883 / 137.883
084. [PS3] Atelier Meruru: The Alchemist of Arland 3 # (Gust) {2011.06.23} - 137.764 / 137.764
085. [PSP] Kenka Bancho 5: Laws of Manhood (Spike) {2011.01.27} - 137.146 / 137.146
086. [PSP] Black Rock Shooter: The Game # (Image Epoch) {2011.08.25} - 135.951 / 135.951
087. [PSP] Steins;Gate # (Kadokawa Shoten) {2011.06.23} - 134.919 / 134.919
088. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7: Xtreme Legends # (Koei Tecmo) {2011.09.29} - 134.350 / 134.350
089. [PS3] Way of the Samurai 4 (Spike) {2011.03.03} - 133.709 / 133.709
090. [WII] Momotaro Railway 2010: Sengoku Ishin no Hero Daishuugou! no Maki (Everyone's Recommendation Selection) (Hudson) {2011.01.20} - 133.388 / 133.388
091. [NDS] Magician's Quest: The Merchant's Store of Sorcery (Konami) {2010.11.11} - 132.348 / 380.609
092. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Definitive Edition # (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} - 131.831 / 131.831
093. [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep - Final Mix (Square Enix) {2011.01.20} - 131.177 / 131.177
094. [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience: Boost (Level 5) {2011.11.23} - 130.198 / 130.198
095. [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) {2010.10.14} - 129.450 / 483.248
096. [PS3] Disgaea 4 (Nippon Ichi Software) {2011.02.24} - 129.031 / 129.031
097. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.11.18} - 127.818 / 227.028
098. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) {2009.06.18} - 126.510 / 3.634.606
099. [PSP] Ore no Shikabane wo Koete Yuke # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2011.11.10} - 124.899 / 124.899
100. [NDS] Mario Vs. Donkey Kong: Miniland Mayhem (Nintendo) {2010.12.02} - 123.347 / 336.538

 

[guek]

Sony wants to make money. Would they "like" to sell 30 million Vitas in Japan? Sure, because they'd be making a fuckton of money. Does Sony believe that is possible? I highly doubt it. They went high end because Nintendo went main stream, thereby sacrificing overall sales to make a better profit with a smaller userbase.

I highly doubt that. This isn't like their other electronics lines. They don't have a wide range of products that cater to both the budget consumer and the high end gadget lover. It would make no sense to create a software driven product intended for a niche market because software creation is greatly influenced by the size of the number of users. Why would they create a product with the intention of making such thin profits and then give it such a major marketing and development push? It makes zero business sense.

Is Sony's #1 goal to make money on the Vita? Yes. Sure. But to say that they designed the thing primarily to make marginal profits is nonsensical. If Sony's goal to the Vita was to play second fiddle to the 3DS, receive lagging software support, and net a few couple bucks along the way, then all the resources put into Vita should have been used elsewhere. Vita is an investment. If what you're saying is true, then that makes Sony more incompetent than even I had initially imagined.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

Holy crap @ Skyward Sword selling less than 300k 0_0

 

[Alexios]

I think they hoped PSP would give them a better foothold in the market allowing them to take hold of more of it by this gen, like Xbox did for Microsoft in the console space. I doubt they'll be happy if the next iteration only performs about as good. But hey, I'm sure that facing damnation they'll be happy if it at least ends up being profitable to any extent.

Would Microsoft be happy if the 360 only did as good as the Xbox, even if they had taken hold of some niche to call their own?

Also "sacrificing overall sales to make a better profit with a smaller userbase"? How is smaller better? It's not like with Vita being so expensive they gain more money per sale, and it's not like they'll make more money on software, especially if proportionally more of it has to be "core" software rather than also have plentiful relatively cheaply produced titles that can do well in the mainstream audience... Especially with the specs and aim of the system to provide an overall better visual level than the 3DS...

Not guessing how things will go mind you, just saying.

 

[Exterminieren]

I'm quite amazed how badly Skyward Sword flopped. Nintendo's biggest bomb of the generation?

 

[Gaborn]

I highly doubt that. This isn't like their other electronics lines. They don't have a wide range of products that cater to both the budget consumer and the high end gadget lover. It would make no sense to create a software driven product intended for a niche market because software creation is greatly influenced by the size of the number of users. Why would they create a product with the intention of making such thin profits and then give it such a major marketing and development push? It makes zero business sense.

Is Sony's #1 goal to make money on the Vita? Yes. Sure. But to say that they designed the thing primarily to make marginal profits is nonsensical. If Sony's goal to the Vita was to play second fiddle to the 3DS, receive lagging software support, and net a few couple bucks along the way, then all the resources put into Vita should have been used elsewhere. Vita is an investment. If what you're saying is true, then that makes Sony more incompetent than even I had initially imagined.

I'm not necessarily saying they're trying to make marginal profits, I think that longer term the Vita, as the PSP did will become what the PSP is now. Sony was never, ever going to compete with Nintendo as a handheld company by having a similar system to what they had. We all know there is a long trail of failed portable systems that wasn't able to really make a practical dent in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld space.

Sony initially made their inroads with a high end system knowing it wasn't going to generate tremendous revenue early on but would eventually do so. In a sense it's another variant of their PS3 strategy, over the long haul they're going to make good money. But the basic reason they did it is not because they want to make marginal profits, it's that the only way to make sufficient inroads to eventually make larger profits is essentially to bypass the market Nintendo has cornered in the immediate term and compete for later in the life cycle.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Holy crap @ Skyward Sword selling less than 300k 0_0

Ocarina of Time sold much more than SS on 3DS....daaaamn.

 

[Orgen]

Numbers

Thanks for the numbers Chris! Maybe it'd be better a separate thread for the Famitsu top 100?

 

[manueldelalas]

Ocarina of Time sold much more than SS on 3DS....daaaamn.

That means that there IS a market for Zelda games, the problem is not the franchise but the game itself.

 

[Gospel]

That means that there IS a market for Zelda games, the problem is not the franchise but the game itself.

Or the platform, among other things.

 

[Chris1964]

There was a Nintendo retailer meeting today. Were the announcements posted?

 

[Orgen]

There was a Nintendo retailer meeting today. Were the announcements posted?

I haven't seen anything ?_?

 

[Kusagari]

When you factor in the 360 version, MW3 probably sold more than Skyward Sword in Japan.

LOL

 

[muu]

I'm not necessarily saying they're trying to make marginal profits, I think that longer term the Vita, as the PSP did will become what the PSP is now. Sony was never, ever going to compete with Nintendo as a handheld company by having a similar system to what they had. We all know there is a long trail of failed portable systems that wasn't able to really make a practical dent in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld space.

Sony initially made their inroads with a high end system knowing it wasn't going to generate tremendous revenue early on but would eventually do so. In a sense it's another variant of their PS3 strategy, over the long haul they're going to make good money. But the basic reason they did it is not because they want to make marginal profits, it's that the only way to make sufficient inroads to eventually make larger profits is essentially to bypass the market Nintendo has cornered in the immediate term and compete for later in the life cycle.

The PS series was dominating the home console userbase and PSP was designed to take over what was Nintendo's stronghold at that period, which was the handheld market. Pretty sure most people laughed about the 'ridiculous' dual screen approach and assumed PSP will take over the handheld market just like they did home consoles. I think it's ridiculous to backpedal on that now that they've failed and conclude "oh well, they weren't really trying."

Ditto for Vita. That $249/24980yen price was a direct answer to 3DS's original price and, with 3ds's own list of failings, a lot of us probably thought "hey, the 3DS is fucked." Much of that opinion just changed w/ the price drop and now apparent strong lineup. I'm pretty damn sure Sony was going for the jugulars this time around as well.

 

[duckroll]

When you factor in the 360 version, MW3 probably sold more than Skyward Sword in Japan.

LOL

The real sweet justice is that Dark Souls outsold Skyward Sword.

 

[guek]

I'm not necessarily saying they're trying to make marginal profits, I think that longer term the Vita, as the PSP did will become what the PSP is now. Sony was never, ever going to compete with Nintendo as a handheld company by having a similar system to what they had. We all know there is a long trail of failed portable systems that wasn't able to really make a practical dent in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld space.

Sony initially made their inroads with a high end system knowing it wasn't going to generate tremendous revenue early on but would eventually do so. In a sense it's another variant of their PS3 strategy, over the long haul they're going to make good money. But the basic reason they did it is not because they want to make marginal profits, it's that the only way to make sufficient inroads to eventually make larger profits is essentially to bypass the market Nintendo has cornered in the immediate term and compete for later in the life cycle.

I see what you're saying, but it still feels like a really foolish strategy. The PS3 has only relatively recently received moderate success, and it's clear that Sony was banking on greater sales earlier in its lifecycle. There's also the fact that the primary reason the PS3 is able to see the little bit of success it has is due to the 360 and rising development costs. The majority of the software support for the PS3 is from multi-plat releases spread from developers using two separate consoles as one platform for development. The Vita doesn't have such a companion platform. If the 360 never existed, who's to say that the PS3 wouldn't have really blown up as the premiere console of choice for developers. But hypothetically speaking, if its hardware and software trends had remained unchanged in such a scenario, I really doubt it would have received nearly as much support as it has. At the end of the day, it's software that drives the sale of hardware, and it's software that's the primary source of revenue for console manufacturers. Creating a niche console drives away software development and would lead to decreased profits, regardless of how much money they're making on the hardware itself.

 

[jman2050]

The idea that Sony is intentionally attempting a water-treading low-volume marginal profitability model with the Vita goes so completely against its corporate culture and its actual strategies to this point that I find it difficult to even entertain that notion in the slightest.

 

[Mpl90]

There was a Nintendo retailer meeting today. Were the announcements posted?

No.
Looking on Sinobi, it seems the only news given is the release of Mario Party 9: 26th April.

 

[Chris1964]

All games of first quarter were covered but I think this is new info

Zelda+White Wii MotionPlus bundle end of January ¥8.800

Hatsune Miku limited edition at 50k

Pokemon+Nobunaga March 17 ¥5.800

Kingdom Hearts 3D + AR Card March ¥5.800

Mario Party 9 April 26