AceBandage
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Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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Head games?
It's just hit me that I'll be able to do this.
I obviously knew you could play it anywhere, but even so.
You are working with Scratch? I need to do an assignment for university xD
Headphone jack reminds me of my old Genesis. I used the fuck out of that feature.
Chittagong
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For comparison, here are the iPad BOMs
So my latest estimate for the BOM would be around $55
Screen - $30 - smaller size, shit resolution, resistive
Case - $2 - I mean, just look at it
Battery - $10 - thicker but does need a lot of mAh still
Chipset and PWB - $5 - virtually no processing, just video decoding
Wireless - $5 - this is expensive due to video tech
Buttons, Sticks, IR, control circuitry - $3 - nothing fancy but there are a lot of them
Typically you double or triple BOM to get to retail price, so that'd be around $100-$150 retail price.
So my latest estimate for the BOM would be around $55
Screen - $30 - smaller size, shit resolution, resistive
Case - $2 - I mean, just look at it
Battery - $10 - thicker but does need a lot of mAh still
Chipset and PWB - $5 - virtually no processing, just video decoding
Wireless - $5 - this is expensive due to video tech
Buttons, Sticks, IR, control circuitry - $3 - nothing fancy but there are a lot of them
Typically you double or triple BOM to get to retail price, so that'd be around $100-$150 retail price.
AceBandage
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The controller will not cost $150...
Chittagong
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My bet is $99 or $129. If Nintendo could make it cheaper than that they could just throw in an ARM chip and become the world's lowest cost tablet manufacturer.
ThatObviousUser
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I'm guessing $70. The tech isn't that amazing.
That's only if they sell it separately, though.
That's only if they sell it separately, though.
Yeah. Come on 3DS now costs 150 bucks/ 129GBP and it has 1 extra 3D screen and cpus/gpus chips
edit:hahaha you silent edit on me.
Chittagong
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I must say, I am quite compelled by the idea of some bedtime MW3. Wonder is I will need to position the Wii U to the center of my flat.
I imagine that they will announce a WiiU Pad Repeater, that enhances the signal (like a 802.11b/g/n repeater) for only $99.99
if low latency is technically possible
I'm with you on this. I think Nintendo went pretty hard out for this demo. It might run smoother and at 1080 but that's it. It looked gorgeous!
I wonder what kit Nintendo used for CES? I could be on crack here but just watching people demo the game it seemed the framerate was better than E3. I couldn't see any drops in the demos I saw. I may be seeing wrong and remembering the original wrong though.
AceBandage
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Exact same one as was at E3.
Dreamwriter
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Miyamoto said:
Iwata said:
In November one gaming site, Develop, published a rumor that the Wii-U SDK had calls supporting a second controller, and that "they know how important it is to make it technically feasible to support two screens, even if that affects framerate". That is the current state of the controller.
Typically sure(at least on apple devices anyway), but not necessarily what will happen. If Nintendo wants to people to purchase an extra UPad, and also not have people worry about having to spend an extra $100+ when they purchase the system, then they will price them accordingly. They may have to sacrifice the high markup to make sure it sells early on.
hydragonwarrior
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Saint Gregory
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Thanks for digging that up. The real point I'd like to make though is even if the final system stays with one controller supported per console the idea that U-tabs will never be available at retail is a little crazy. It's the primary controller for the system and over the course of the generation consumers are going to want the option of replacing them or simply buying another because they'd like a spare.
I can't imagine a situation where the tablet will never be available to purchase seperately.
For comparison, here are the iPad BOMs
Are the screens really THAT expensive?
I mean my 13" 1366x768 sub-notebook with ULV-Intel i5 and 4GB RAM was 300€ (EDIT: Sorry, I checked, it was 350€
, ok without Touchscreen but I can't believe that it makes 120 bucks! And why is the iPad2 screen 50% more expensive? They are the same size, same res and same tech IIRC.
Chittagong
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Well, couple of reasons. PC and netbook margins are cutthroat, so it is well possible that the display was quite a large chunk of the retail price. Second, the capacitive digitizer and gorilla glass cost a lot. Finally, the iPad 2 parts need to be ultra thin (minimal tolerances -> low yields -> high prices). Generally displays are expensive, yes.
What the hell - random mandarin eating shot!
OH, and I'm having a hard time
getting that star in that platform with rolling spiky ball level
Really? Is that confirmed? If so, then I am a happy man.
Louis Cyphre
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Maybe I'm in the minority but I really like the look of this already. I don't think it would be wise for Nintendo to go in a direction of being life-like. It's like asking for Mario Kart to have life-like vehicles. I think the camera options and lighting affects are much more interesting.
If this game looks as good as the demo I will be buying the Wii-U. However over the last several years Nintendo has made me pessimistic, from its online service offerings, to its 3rd party support. Plus its game delays, and it's inferior hardware due to making the system affordable while wanting to generate profits from the start.
Because I'm a big Nintendo nerd: Wii U = Day one. I'm excited that we're having another Nintendo hardware (console!) launch. Its gonna be good.
What I'm wanting to know is what kind of launch title can we expect for it? I know its not likely to happen but if we can get New Super Mario Bros Mii day one, that would be the ultimate Nintendo launch title for me. A launch Mario title....that hasn't happened since N64.
Couple that with a new Wii Sports pack-in title and it'll be perfect enough for me. Add Pikmin 3 and I'll take a whole week off of work to enjoy the hell out of it!
What I'm wanting to know is what kind of launch title can we expect for it? I know its not likely to happen but if we can get New Super Mario Bros Mii day one, that would be the ultimate Nintendo launch title for me. A launch Mario title....that hasn't happened since N64.
Couple that with a new Wii Sports pack-in title and it'll be perfect enough for me. Add Pikmin 3 and I'll take a whole week off of work to enjoy the hell out of it!
Dreamwriter
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We basically know that it'll come with at least one game from a AAA Nintendo franchise, because the 3DS didn't, and Nintendo blames the 3DS's launch problems on that, and said they learned their lesson. They relied too much on third-party launch titles selling the system, and it didn't work. So I'd say a New Super Mario Bros. title is a sure bet for launch day.
Which of course will result in the typical "we can't compete with Nintendo games" line from certain 3rd Parties -_-
Shadowlink
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I'm not sure if I can survive another few months until E3.
Hope they have some announcements at GDC.
Hope they have some announcements at GDC.
I'm not sure if I can survive another few months until E3.
Hope they have some announcements at GDC.
When is GDC?
NSMBM? Personally I only bring out NSMBW when friends are over, and haven't really played it single player. It'd certainly be one of the first party games I'd get for the U, but not something I'm really looking forward to.
Shadowlink
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March 5-9
Nintendo Ninjas.0_0 that's ages away
EDIT: How has Ubisoft not leaked anything at all yet
I'm not sure if I can survive another few months until E3.
Hope they have some announcements at GDC.
They also have the earnings release, followed by the investors Q&A, Nintendo unveiled some things like The Last Story there in the past. They might throw a bone, Reggie seemed to hint at stuff being shown before E3 all throughout the year and that's the first Nintendo 'event' coming up at the end of January. Given the recent rumors and the shareholder focus Nintendo might say something about their Wii U App plans there.
It's not that they're bad, but it's just they're not at the top of the list of "Nintendo Games I want to see in HD".
Zoramon089
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Unless they completely revamp the graphics engine and give us something like Galaxy on Dolphin...
Chances of that happening are zero though.
Btw, when this thread hits the 20k replies a new one will be opened right?
NSMBWii is my favourite Mario game.
DS is one of my least favourite ones so it's up in the air
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
They'll most likely keep the same style because it gels well with Mii style.
TheExplodingHead
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Don't get me wrong, making it a multiplayer game does add a different complexity. But it's hardly a rational for Nintendo (who do have the resources and talent pool) to ignore depth and nuance in favor of shallow fiscal expediency, they used to offer both equally.
No doubt, from a game design and execution approach their one of my favorite this generation, even ever. But Nintendo has the same caliber of talent, more money, and more marketing resources. There's no real excuse why Nintendo EAD of all dev's couldn't make a platformer this way. Or maybe I should temper my standards for a studio/s built on the house of sublime platformers and except that making a Mario game with four distinct chars and level design that accomodates (alongside barebones online) is too hard... :\
I understand that, and to be honest you'll be correct here. They'll end up just shoving a bunch of Mii clones in there (if this becomes a real game) and call it the next amazing Mario. I'm just arguing for my own personal grandiose hopes for Nintendo, however unrealistic for Iwata's new company they might be. Suffice it to say I'm not a big fan of the "new Nintendo" as a company and policy maker.
Maybe so, but bridging a more competitive and depth gap in a clever Nintendo way would seem more to the point than just slapping a bunch of Mii's on screen. Just me though. Proper online, plus that might win a few fans.
I'm pretty indifferent too, to be honest I have no idea why I'm arguing about Mii's on the internet, but so goes it. My hunch is everything that made the Wii successful is tapped and bone dry, I don't believe this goofy Mii approach will do them any favors this time. Not to mention it would in my opinion make a better Mario game with other avenues.
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