Give this man an exec position.
And that Wii U response comes just before the one saying "yeah, we almost have someone to port it to Mac".
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Tomb Raider roundup: Weather, mocap, feeding, dynamic camera, M-rating, Mac/No WiiU
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Give this man an exec position.
And that Wii U response comes just before the one saying "yeah, we almost have someone to port it to Mac".
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The_Darkest_Red
Member
What I want to know is how much emphasis will the new TR place on large scale environments and huge, deadly puzzles? That is what Tomb Raider is all about to me, and I hope they don't completely ditch that model in favor of a more stream-lined one similar to the Uncharted games. Don't get me wrong, I love the Uncharted series, but I've always felt like Tomb Raider was valuable for almost completely different reasons.
iceatcs
Junior Member
I think Nintendo will not allow that. I believe it must have to use something on the tablet.
Hopefully we will find out more the point of the tablet on E3.
The pixel whores will go for PC version, duh!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Did anybody else find this statement a little...off? I just played through Uncharted 3 and that game was never hurt by the the fact that it wasn't M-rated. Never once did I feel that it was "soft and light" and not "believable."
I find this to be an absolutely ridiculous statement by the developer.
The Praiseworthy
Member
A summer release will be heavenly for me.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Uncharted isn't a survival game. The vibe they're going for with Tomb Raider is more brutal so it makes sense why they'd go with the M rating. Uncharted is pulpy adventure fun, they aren't trying to make Drake break bones, or hunt for food, or deal with resources, etc. etc. I thought the answer made sense.
plagiarize
Banned
i don't. the two games are trying completely different things, and Crystal Dynamics are only talking about how a T rating would effect their own design for this specific game. they aren't saying that every T rated game is 'soft and light'. they're just saying a T rating would work against what they are trying to do.
they didn't feel that with their previous games, and thus aimed at the T market. trust me, they aren't knocking Uncharted 3 or anything else.
plagiarize
Banned
the more recent Tomb Raiders play quite differently to the old ones. i enjoyed the platforming in Anniversary and Underworld quite a bit. the shooting... not so much. why did they always change how to pull off the super/slomo shot thing from game to game? i can never remember how i'm supposed to do it in each one.
Yeah I enjoyed the platforming in Underworld more so than the Uncharted(s) and games like Enslaved. It's more of a manual platforming.
The point of having the standard controls on the U-Pad was so they could get ports. Considering nintendo has already said that developers didn't have to use the 3d functionality or both screens on the 3ds if they did not want to, i doubt they'd place the same restrictions on developers/publishers for the Wii U. Nintendo just wants 3rd party support on the same level that ps3/360 got this time around.
Father_Brain
Banned
The lack of a Wii U version would be more defensible if the game is shipping a couple months before Wii U launch, which might be the case... but still, not a good sign.
Enjoyed the read on the game, not so much on all of the whining about no WiiU version. We're going on generation 4 since Nintendo had third party support and still everyone apparently expects full third party support on a new Nintendo system.
Stop running into that wall and figure out that it hurts.
Stop running into that wall and figure out that it hurts.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Crystal Dynamics had no problem shoe-horning in mechanics for the Wii version of Tomb Raider Anniversary and Underworld, so I dunno why it's such an impossible feat this time. Especially when you consider with the way the wiiu tablet is set up, you don't really need to do a WHOLE BUNCH to get the game working similarly to how the standard controls are done.
It's weird when Vigil Games, a studio with one game under their belts, can get Darksiders II up and running on WiiU, looking better than the 360/PS3 versions in mere weeks, but Crystal Dynamics seemingly can't.
I Agree! Yeah, you'd think after so many third parties bet against the Wii, and missed out HARD on that market early on, that 3rd parties would actually LEARN this time. You may want to start supporting things that have the potential to be big, instead of second-guessing it.
It's weird when Vigil Games, a studio with one game under their belts, can get Darksiders II up and running on WiiU, looking better than the 360/PS3 versions in mere weeks, but Crystal Dynamics seemingly can't.
I Agree! Yeah, you'd think after so many third parties bet against the Wii, and missed out HARD on that market early on, that 3rd parties would actually LEARN this time. You may want to start supporting things that have the potential to be big, instead of second-guessing it.
XOMTOR
Member
What?! No Bear Grylls moments, I'm out! No seriously, I'm pretty hyped for any new Tomb Raider as it's squarely my favorite franchise. The only real nagging concern I have is the QTE/contextual button prompts that appear so prominently in the early gameplay footage. Hopefully they can tone that down and let us actually play the game.
Also, isn't the game going to be using the same engine as Deus Ex HR? If so, hopefully they can optimize it a bit better for PC before it releases.
I'm sure the flood gates will open, but I'm pretty happy we haven been getting bombarded by new footage constantly. There is still an air of mystery about this game unlike so many others who basically reveal the entire game little by little before release. I'm looking at you Sony.
Yup. Nintendo needs to be trying harder to secure things like this.
TheJollyCorner
Member
so all the people saying "No WiiU version? NO BUY!" don't have a PS3 or 360?
I'm guessing they are Wii-only gamers... but is such a thing even possible?
I'm guessing they are Wii-only gamers... but is such a thing even possible?
PC version, day one. Im so excited for this game.
I agree. Im always thinking about this game and really want new footage but we are better off not seeing anything. The whole game will feel pretty fresh that way.
I agree. Im always thinking about this game and really want new footage but we are better off not seeing anything. The whole game will feel pretty fresh that way.
SolidSnakex
Member
What type of numbers did Anniversary and Underworld put up on the Wii?
Criminal Upper
Banned
It shouldn't be up to Nintendo to court Eidos of all people. Eidos should be coming to them.
Probably poorly? But Underworld and Anniversary did underperform across all consoles.
If they're making a PC version, they can make a WiiU. It's really their loss since they can hire out someone to do a quick port and even if it sells the least on the console, they would have invested very little in making it available. Not saying I'm for that since they should make an enhanced one, but they could do it.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
He talks a good game
sixteen-bit
Member
The M-Rating appeals to a mature gamer such as myself.
SolidSnakex
Member
I disagree. Nintendo has had a very bad relationship with third party devs on consoles since the N64. You could actually go back before then when you take into account all the pushing around that Nintendo did. But the N64 era is really when third party devs started moving away from them. They should be doing everything that they can to get the same level of third party support that Sony and MS have for their consoles.
They underperformed but they still put up decent numbers on the PS3 and 360. Why would they be rushing back to the a Nintendo console if their last two games tanked (if they did)?
Neon_Icarus
Member
Why didn't they ask them whether or not they've toned down her moaning? That's seriously embarrassing stuff.
Criminal Upper
Banned
This is totally true, and I agree with this. But the fact that the Wii came along, blew the fuck up hard, so many 3rd parties missed out on tons of potential sales in the first 3 years of the Wii's life, because they bet against Nintendo. (which was understandable at the time) Same thing with the DS.
Then the same thing happened with the 3DS - Nintendo basically let 3rd parties have the launch all to themselves, but so few put out any compelling content, so again, missed opportunity at launch.
So, I think with all these lessons learned, I would imagine ALOT more third parties should try to at least push as much launch content as they can - and now since the WiiU is on par or better than the PS3/360 tech wise, the reasoning for NOT putting stuff there at launch is wearing INCREDIBLY thin. As Crystal D demonstrated.
This is what I'll never understand about the gaming business. When the systems are matched and there is no exclusives, it's stupid to not develop for a company just because you don't like them. It should be a software makers goal to make the game available to as many consoles as possible- especially when the systems match up. I get that if the systems are too far apart performance wise it isn't economically possible, but i will never buy that it's not feasible for similar performing systems.
It doesn't matter if Nintendo courts them since Nintendo will always be profitable on the software side and they will always sell hardware for that software. It's like DVD studios hating particular TV brands.
It'll be toned down as the character progresses..
I still dont really get why the moaning is a big deal in the first place. Should a young and inexperienced human be quieter when they get impaled and chased through a cave by a crazy person.
It could also be that Nintendo demands from developers to include the Wii-U's unique functions. I mean it would be weird if one of the launch games doesn't make use of any of the Wii-U's features.
FunkyPajamas
Member
If anything, moaning needs to be toned up. Great moaning.
exactly.. I read this QA awhile ago, so I had to relocate where they did actually addressed this.. here it is:
Yeah, but I think Nintendo's learned by now what happens when they demand 3rd parties do anything...
Let's hope so
They are not in a position regarding third-party relations to successfully "demand" much of anything of that ilk, and I'd think they'd know that. Incentivizing that sort of thing is one thing, requiring it another.
If they want to try to get a significant portion of the PS3/360 fanbase on board (an uphill battle, but something that Iwata et al's statements indicate that they are aiming for), they should be taking what they can get.
He contradicts himself when he talks about Lara's current situation in life. First he mentions that she's still only a college student; then he goes on to say that she's just out of college. She's 21, but which is it? Is she still studying or is she off to see the world and have adventures? It's probably irrelevant anyway, but that stood out to me for some reason.
I was in the minority of people last summer that was not impressed with their e3 trailer. However, it sounds like they're going for an Uncharted + (maybe) Snake Eater approach to the gameplay? It's almost certainly going to be a straightforward, linear experience with scripted setpieces and hundreds of enemies to kill, so I suppose I should curb my expectations accordingly.
I was in the minority of people last summer that was not impressed with their e3 trailer. However, it sounds like they're going for an Uncharted + (maybe) Snake Eater approach to the gameplay? It's almost certainly going to be a straightforward, linear experience with scripted setpieces and hundreds of enemies to kill, so I suppose I should curb my expectations accordingly.
I read this;
As, "Nah, if we were gonna put it on the Wii U we would have built it differently. Like with a different art style and mini-games. Possibly on rails. You know, something Nintendo gamers are more comfortable with."
Haha. I also idly wonder what specific platform they developed this for considering they're releasing it on three separate platforms (+1 possibly).
As, "Nah, if we were gonna put it on the Wii U we would have built it differently. Like with a different art style and mini-games. Possibly on rails. You know, something Nintendo gamers are more comfortable with."
Haha. I also idly wonder what specific platform they developed this for considering they're releasing it on three separate platforms (+1 possibly).
This is my biggest fear for the game. Tomb Raider style adventure/platformers are a dying breed and Im hoping that the reboot hangs onto that gameplay and maybe even breathes new life into it. If they go the Uncharted route, Ill be very disappointed regardless of how good it might end up being.
Im actually ok with a few set pieces here and there similar to what we saw in that trailer but the whole game better not be riddled with them.
The ability to fast travel and such gives me the impression that the world is going to be large, open, and non linear. I hope Im right.
lol
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
I'm glad they are staying in-engine for the cutscenes, hopefully they don't pre-record the stuff and keep it all real-time rendered.
Yeah, even Angel of Darkness, the grittiest entry in the series (lol) was rated T.
Yeah, even Angel of Darkness, the grittiest entry in the series (lol) was rated T.
Yeah, you've got to wonder where did all the apprehension to porting games come from? They were perfectly happy to make ps3 ports that did not take advantage of the sixaxis controller.