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japtor

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Would that work with PC/Mac as well? since it's Bluetooth? I would love a retro controller for emu's.
Assuming it's like the other iCade stuff, it's basically a Bluetooth controller, but I think it works kind of funky. Like it does one key for a button down and a separate key for button up, rather than one key = one button. Technically it could work for emus, but they'd have to be made to work specifically with the iCade control setup. In the case of iOS games I think there's an API for it but no clue if they've done anything similar for Mac/Windows.
 

Flunkie

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I grabbed it and loved it. I didn't much care for the tilt controls though; I disabled them.
I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than Trials HD on 360, which I cannot stand the physics of. I just hope more levels come out for this game soon.
It's one of the few iOS games I have reviewed, and I reviewed it specifically so I could say that 'It's awesome, but needs more levels.' Hopefully some come out.

It looks good, but I will wait for it to hit $.99 again.

It seems like levels = a new edition though. And yeah, it's rough around the edges and it needs basic features like telling you what levels you could do better on - but hey, can't argue with the great gameplay. They nailed the physics. It's like the Trials I loved before Trials became popular (360 version).

Also: Anyone ever try/hear of Roads of Rome? It looks interesting and is $.99.
 

Kuran

Banned
Hypership Out of Control is currently free:

http://itunes.apple.com/app/hypership-out-of-control/id457560346?mt=8

These Robotic Hearts of Mine is also currently free, normally $1.99

http://itunes.apple.com/app/these-robotic-hearts-of-mine/id482086528?mt=8

It's a puzzle game with pixel graphics and a small story going on. Complete each puzzle gives you a bit more of the story. Sort of experimental and some of the puzzles get hard.

Thank you kind sir. Free is awesome. Where did you find out that they were free?
 

EYEL1NER

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It seems like levels = a new edition though. And yeah, it's rough around the edges and it needs basic features like telling you what levels you could do better on - but hey, can't argue with the great gameplay. They nailed the physics. It's like the Trials I loved before Trials became popular (360 version).

Also: Anyone ever try/hear of Roads of Rome? It looks interesting and is $.99.
Well, if new levels = new version, then they need to bang one out, because I'll not wait for a sale and buy it at release.
 
BTW are there any other games that utilize the iTunes Library other than Beat Hazard?

Can't believe Audiosurf is still not out on iOS. It was out on the Zune market ffs.
 

japtor

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BTW are there any other games that utilize the iTunes Library other than Beat Hazard?

Can't believe Audiosurf is still not out on iOS. It was out on the Zune market ffs.
If you have a Japanese iTunes account Konami came out with a free one: beat gather. Wish Harmonix (or whoever owns the rights now) would make a new version of Phase.

I know there's others out there but I completely forget their names.
 
Either the author has enough money, or Microsoft bought his exclusivity.

Thats what I figured, but the creator could always do a spiritual successor or something. Did a little bit of searching and I guess the original dev just wasn't up for it. There is even one member on the Audiosurf forums saying they are making their own iOS knockoff version of it. lol

If you have a Japanese iTunes account Konami came out with a free one: beat gather. Wish Harmonix (or whoever owns the rights now) would make a new version of Phase.

I know there's others out there but I completely forget their names.

Thanks!
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Hypership Out of Control is currently free:

http://itunes.apple.com/app/hypership-out-of-control/id457560346?mt=8

These Robotic Hearts of Mine is also currently free, normally $1.99

http://itunes.apple.com/app/these-robotic-hearts-of-mine/id482086528?mt=8

It's a puzzle game with pixel graphics and a small story going on. Complete each puzzle gives you a bit more of the story. Sort of experimental and some of the puzzles get hard.

Just blew through that robotic hearts game. Pretty cool. Some of the levels get hard, but you get infinite turns, so it's not like you won't eventually beat it. The story was simple, but great, with the perfect ending. It's free, so everyone should grab it. Even if you don't want to play the puzzle part, you can zip through the story (which is pretty short) by skipping the levels.

Cool find.
 
Wow, TinTin is pretty good. I picked it up for a $1 since it was on sale and went in didn't expecting much. I was more impressed than I thought I'd be.

A good purchase.
 
Just bought Beat Hazard and I guess I have uncool loser music because all my songs are ranked as easy.

Although I kind of like that every Queen song has had a boss so far.

Better connect to some metal stations to up my score.
 
Thank you kind sir. Free is awesome. Where did you find out that they were free?

On Touch Arcade's site there's a tab at the top labeled New Games and it's connected to Appshopper so it shows up-to-date new releases and price drops.

Just blew through that robotic hearts game. Pretty cool. Some of the levels get hard, but you get infinite turns, so it's not like you won't eventually beat it. The story was simple, but great, with the perfect ending. It's free, so everyone should grab it. Even if you don't want to play the puzzle part, you can zip through the story (which is pretty short) by skipping the levels.

Cool find.

Yeah, it's not a bad little game. I've been meaning to mention it on here for awhile now, along with a lot of other hidden gems.
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
I can't get into beat hazard at all, and I'm pretty sure it's because I just suck at twin stick shooters. I sucked at Geo Wars, and that was with real sticks... Beat Hazard is just embarrassing for me.
 

japtor

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I can't get into beat hazard at all, and I'm pretty sure it's because I just suck at twin stick shooters. I sucked at Geo Wars, and that was with real sticks... Beat Hazard is just embarrassing for me.
Tried the single stick mode? A bit annoying not having full control over your shot...but it might be less annoying than having to control your shot.
 

Fjordson

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Just finished Another World for the first time after the recent sale, and man that was a good time. There were some frustrating parts, but for the most part it was enjoyable throughout. I really dig how the story was told without any exposition. Worked well on iOS too

/21 years late.
Picked this up when it was on sale as well and just started playing it tonight.

Fascinating game. I absolutely love the way it looks and how the story is conveyed so minimally. Pretty fun when you really nail a sequence, but...I'll admit that I've been tempted to launch my iPhone at the wall multiple times. The precise timing on some of these jumps and the sudden deaths can be maddening. I spent literally 20 minutes earlier trying to nail a single jump.

And yet I can't stop playing. Good stuff.
 

SmokyDave

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Challenge accepted!....

...challenge beaten!

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Goddamnit, I knew I should've played last night! Stupid sleeping!

Now to watch as I slowly slide down the leaderboard forevermore...

Mind you, two 18 mil runs during my morning cig tells me this ain't over yet ;)
 

Jedeye Sniv

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Bought Beat Hazard. Cool game though it's also the first game I've played that uses "sticks"...and I've realized that touch screen gaming will never replace traditional controls. WTF...people actually like this?

Replace, no. Suppliment, yes. They take practice to get used to but once you do they are more than acceptable provided the right implimentation (screen placement, stick size etc). I don't have a 360 controller in my pocket on the bus, so in thsoe cases touch controls do indeed replace physical.
 

SmokyDave

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Replace, no. Suppliment, yes. They take practice to get used to but once you do they are more than acceptable provided the right implimentation (screen placement, stick size etc). I don't have a 360 controller in my pocket on the bus, so in thsoe cases touch controls do indeed replace physical.

I was debating a reply that implied that 'hardcore' gamers could adjust to any old control set whereas 'casual' gamers couldn't.

I then decided that I might create a black-troll. It's like a troll but it sucks in all the matter from around it and turns discussions into shit across the whole net. Dangerous stuff.
 

Jedeye Sniv

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I was debating a reply that implied that 'hardcore' gamers could adjust to any old control set whereas 'casual' gamers couldn't.

I then decided that I might create a black-troll. It's like a troll but it sucks in all the matter from around it and turns discussions into shit across the whole net. Dangerous stuff.

Haha I like the way you think! This could be the greatest troll argument ever and apply to all areas of gaming whiners. Can't do touch controls? Not hardcore enough brah. Don't like Facebook games? I thought you were a fuckin gamer. Don't like Gameloft? WTF man, I thought you could play anything!

But your troll argument contains much truth. Anyone worth their salt should be able to adapt to touch controls. Unless of course they're all spaz-handed with real controllers and just play an annual CoD game on easy... come at me bros.
 

Reese-015

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Bought Beat Hazard. Cool game though it's also the first game I've played that uses "sticks"...and I've realized that touch screen gaming will never replace traditional controls. WTF...people actually like this?

Yeah. Also fps's on consoles will never take off cause they're unplayable with controllers.
 

B!TCH

how are you, B!TCH? How is your day going, B!ITCH?
Sort of off topic but is there a technical reason why more games don't implement iCloud saving? I would've thought by now *most* games would have added iCloud saving via an update but out of the 100+ games I have only a handful have that feature. Surely if it is as easy as I think it is to add it, they would've done so by now?
 

GeekyDad

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Bought Beat Hazard. Cool game though it's also the first game I've played that uses "sticks"...and I've realized that touch screen gaming will never replace traditional controls. WTF...people actually like this?

I don't. There have been a couple on occasions where virtual controls were doable, but generally speaking, I loathe them. It's why I haven't bothered with this game. I'm sure it's a great game as many folks attest to, but it's not for me.
 

wolfmat

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Sort of off topic but is there a technical reason why more games don't implement iCloud saving? I would've thought by now *most* games would have added iCloud saving via an update but out of the 100+ games I have only a handful have that feature. Surely if it is as easy as I think it is to add it, they would've done so by now?

iCloud support is only easily doable (or at least testable) if you explicitly compile for iOS 5. If you want to support previous iOS versions and support iCloud with the same compilate, you have to jump through some hoops (albeit unproblematic ones, once you read up on it — basically, check for classes and methods via reflection). And you have to get an entitlement. And you probably want to go with key-value storage, which limits space and needs a bit of additional thought as opposed to a good ol' save file. You might have to handle version conflicts and do other weird junk otherwise.

You can read about implementing iCloud support on developer.apple.com (even without being a developer).

Anyway, it probably takes more than 2 hours to implement. It's a new thing. So naturally, lots of developers don't want to thoughtlessly touch it. They certainly should read up on it though!

As for games that came out before iOS 5, the developers probably don't see why they should continually support new features if there's basically no revenue to be generated from the effort.
 
I was debating a reply that implied that 'hardcore' gamers could adjust to any old control set whereas 'casual' gamers couldn't.

I then decided that I might create a black-troll. It's like a troll but it sucks in all the matter from around it and turns discussions into shit across the whole net. Dangerous stuff.

Lmao. Thread worthy post right there.

I actually thought about making a thread about something similar a while back. Mostly about people's perceptive need for some sort of standardization of control schemes, but I like your idea better.
 

B!TCH

how are you, B!TCH? How is your day going, B!ITCH?
iCloud support is only easily doable (or at least testable) if you explicitly compile for iOS 5. If you want to support previous iOS versions and support iCloud with the same compilate, you have to jump through some hoops (albeit unproblematic ones, once you read up on it — basically, check for classes and methods via reflection). And you have to get an entitlement. And you probably want to go with key-value storage, which limits space and needs a bit of additional thought as opposed to a good ol' save file. You might have to handle version conflicts and do other weird junk otherwise.

You can read about implementing iCloud support on developer.apple.com (even without being a developer).

Anyway, it probably takes more than 2 hours to implement. It's a new thing. So naturally, lots of developers don't want to thoughtlessly touch it. They certainly should read up on it though!

As for games that came out before iOS 5, the developers probably don't see why they should continually support new features if there's basically no revenue to be generated from the effort.

Thanks! That was a better response than I was expecting to be honest.
 

Pachael

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Beat Hazard is just as brilliant on the iPhone as it was on Steam. The single stick mode is pretty good for the most part - some of the autoaiming isn't great when I'm trying to hoard off corners of enemies.

And as usual, with intensity up, oh my goodness gracious - the screeennn
 

GeekyDad

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I was debating a reply that implied that 'hardcore' gamers could adjust to any old control set whereas 'casual' gamers couldn't.

I then decided that I might create a black-troll. It's like a troll but it sucks in all the matter from around it and turns discussions into shit across the whole net. Dangerous stuff.

ePenis is always relevant. Don't be afraid to delve.

Anyway, what you meant to say was "real men," as opposed to us sissy folk. ;)
 

MasLegio

Banned
Hasn't this always been the case? If you change region of your account you loose past region purchases unless you got iTunes "backups".

Add: I'm in the same boat so to speak, moved my iTunes account from France to Ireland 3 years back and all my French purchases no longer show up. But I can install and update those apps via iTunes as I still have the apps there (at the same time iTunes on my phone wants to buy the apps if they're not installed). According to Apple this is the way it's meant to be, with "national" apps that you have to repurchase if you leave a region.

If Apple changed anything, it was over 3 years ago.

that is pure evil, unless an app uses licensed content there is no reason whatsoever to region lock apps.
Apple needs to redo not only iTunes but their back-end as well as both are getting really old not adapted to current usage patterns.
 
I hate, hate, HATE that that Bluetooth controller doesn't use a diamond-layout for the buttons but instead just has them as a square. Hello? There is a reason every single 4-button controller ever made (even 2-button controllers after the NES, such as the GameBoy) has put them at an angle in the diamond shape: comfort and ergonomics. Jesus Christ.
 

Tunesmith

formerly "chigiri"
that is pure evil, unless an app uses licensed content there is no reason whatsoever to region lock apps.
Apple needs to redo not only iTunes but their back-end as well as both are getting really old not adapted to current usage patterns.

I agree with you. Atleast their CS staff is helpful in restoring purchases but yeah, one shouldn't have to resort to that.
 
I hate, hate, HATE that that Bluetooth controller doesn't use a diamond-layout for the buttons but instead just has them as a square. Hello? There is a reason every single 4-button controller ever made (even 2-button controllers after the NES, such as the GameBoy) has put them at an angle in the diamond shape: comfort and ergonomics. Jesus Christ.

I always thought it was that way because the throwback was to the NES pad (not to be confused with the NES dogbone controller, probably the best pad out, right up there with the classic SNES pad and Dualshock for comfort). In this case, I guess they figured nostalgia trumps comfort? Still want one, just wish you could replace the graphic on the front of the pad.
 
Replace, no. Suppliment, yes. They take practice to get used to but once you do they are more than acceptable provided the right implimentation (screen placement, stick size etc). I don't have a 360 controller in my pocket on the bus, so in thsoe cases touch controls do indeed replace physical.
I was debating a reply that implied that 'hardcore' gamers could adjust to any old control set whereas 'casual' gamers couldn't.
I agree with both of you. I feel as though with enough practice I could be comfortable with any control scheme, it's all a matter of if the payoff of spending the time to learn is worth it. In iOS's case I think it is. Nowadays I don't even feel like I'm compromising while playing games like Shantae or Sonic CD.
 

SmokyDave

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nah I did that after my last complaint, but even fixed it doesn't control great, it's like there's a delay between the input and the ship actually moving
Yeah, there's definitely some 'sloppiness' there. I try to anticipate it in my movement patterns but you don't always have enough room.

It's killing me that I can't sit and play the game. I really need to get fired.
 
Just a heads up, for Valentine's Day only we're giving away our game Hypership Out of Control for iPhone/iPad (normally it's $.99).

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hypership-out-of-control/id457560346?mt=8

Hypership is a fast paced shmup style game with an emphasis on speed, reaction time, and memorization. We're rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on the App Store, 85 on metacritic, and we're a finalist for the Pocket Gamer Action / Arcade game of the year. I hope you'll check our game out!
 

conman

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nah I did that after my last complaint, but even fixed it doesn't control great, it's like there's a delay between the input and the ship actually moving
I'm with the detractors here. I just can't get behind these virtual stick controls. Some games find creative alternatives, but not so much in Beat Hazard.
 

ponpo

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Just a heads up, for Valentine's Day only we're giving away our game Hypership Out of Control for iPhone/iPad (normally it's $.99).

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hypership-out-of-control/id457560346?mt=8

Hypership is a fast paced shmup style game with an emphasis on speed, reaction time, and memorization. We're rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on the App Store, 85 on metacritic, and we're a finalist for the Pocket Gamer Action / Arcade game of the year. I hope you'll check our game out!

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